Hélesinde de Ponthieu

Family/Spouse: Hugues II. Hugues was born about 1050; died between 1118 and 1119. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Hugues II dit Candavène was born about 1080.

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Count of Ponthieu. Slain at the siege of Arques.

Enguerrand married Alice of Normandy. Alice (daughter of Robert I and (Unknown mistress of Robert I)) was born about 1030; died before 1090. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Bef 1035
• Alternate death: Bef 1096

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Countess of Aumale.

Also called Aelidis; Adeliza; Adelisa; Adelidis.

Definitely a daughter of Robert I, Duke of Normandy; probably by his mistress Herleve/Arlette, but possibly by a different mistress.

"Adelaide or Adeliz, sister ot William the Conqueror, being illeg. da. of Robert, Duke of the Normans, by Herleve or Harlotte, da. of Fulbert or Robert, a pelliparius of Falaise, is mentioned in Domesday as Comitissa de Albamarla and as holding some manors in Essex and Suffolk. In 1082, William, King of the English, and Maud, his wife, gave to the Abbey of La Trinité at Caen the bourg of Le Homme (de Hulmo) in the Cotentin, "sed et Comitissa A. de Albamarla concedente eo videlicet pacto ut ipsa teneret in vita sua." (") Adelaide m., 1stly, Enguerrand II, Count of Ponthieu, who d. s.p.m., being slain in 1053. She m., 2ndly, Lambert, Count of Lens in Artois, who d. s.p.m., being slain in 1054. She m., 3rdly, Eudes, the disinherited Count of Champagne, who had taken refuge in Normandy. She d. before 1090. Her husband obtained Holderness after the date of Domesday. Having conspired against William II in 1094, he was imprisoned in 1096. He occurs as Comes Odo in the Lindsay Survey (1115-18)." [Complete Peerage I:351-52]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 20 Nov 1052

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Count of Ponthieu.

Hugh married Bertha of Aumale. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 1035
• Alternate death: 22 Jul 1035

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"The Devil." Duke of Normandy.

Robert married (Unknown mistress of Robert I). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Count of Ponthieu. Supposed to have killed in battle Arnold II, Count of Boulogne, and married his widow; or perhaps the noble he kiled was Baldwin I of Boulogne.

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"He built the castle at Aumale." [Complete Peerage I:351, note (d)]

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• Alternate death: 28 Aug 1026
• Alternate death: 1027
• Alternate death: 23 Aug 1027

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Duke of Normandy.

Richard married Judith of Brittany about 1000. Judith (daughter of Conan I "Le Tort" and Ermengarde of Anjou) was born in 982; died on 28 Jun 1017; was buried in Bernay Abbey, Bernay, Normandy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 16 Jun 1017

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Also called Judith de Rennes. Founded the abbey of Bernay, Normandy.

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Also called Hugo Miles. His origins are unknown; our only real source for him is the 1088 chronicle of Hariulf, chronicler of Saint-Riquier, which notes that he never called himself Count of Ponthieu and that his son Enguerrand was the first to do so. He was an avocat of the abbey of Saint-Riquier and castellan of Abbeville. Many geneaological cites claim, without any obvious evidence, that he married Gisela, a daughter of Hugh Capet.

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Also known as Richard the Fearless; Richard Sans Peur. Called in retrospect "Duke of Normandy," a title he did not use.

From The Henry Project: "Richard is described by such a wide range of words (comes, marchio, consul, princeps, dux) by various sources (sometimes of dubious authority) that it would be difficult to argue that there is a specific 'title' by which he should be called."

Richard married Gunnor. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Count of Rennes before 979. Duke of Brittany.

"[S]lain at the 2nd Battle of Conquereuil near Nantes". [Royal Ancestry]

Conan married Ermengarde of Anjou about 973. Ermengarde (daughter of Geoffroi I Grisegonelle and Adèle of Troyes) died after 992. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Stewart Baldwin has pointed out that she was not the same individual as her sister Gerberge who married William IV of Angouleme, despite the contrary claim in several sources including Wikipedia, Ancestral Roots, and Leo van de Pas (the latter presumably deriving from Europa?ische Stammtafeln).

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• Alternate death: 17 Dec 942, Picquigny, Picardy, France

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William "Longsword".

Says The Henry Project about his birth "overseas": "[I].e., not on the European mainland, and therefore possibly in Britain, Ireland, Scandinavia, or one of the islands held by Vikings (Orkneys, Hebrides, Man, etc.), all plausible places for the son of a Viking to be born."

Assassinated, possibly by or at the instigation of Arnulf/Arnulph/Arnoul "The Old", Count of Flanders.

Guillaume married Sprota. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Sporta; Sprota de Senlis; Espriota de Bretagne; Sprota de St. Lis (most of these are probably apocryphal).

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Also called Herbastus, Forester of Arque; Arfastus. His actual name is unknown; he appears in history only as the father of several people known to have been siblings.

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Also called Judhaël, Judicael Berenger. A count, but there is no proof that he was a count of Rennes.

According to Stewart Baldwin, both at the Henry Project (citation details below) and in "The Ancestry of Count Conan le Tort of Brittany" (citation details below), he may have been a son of Pascweten who fl. 895-903, who was himself a son of Alain le Grand who d. 907, count of Vannes and duke (sometimes called king) of Brittany.

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Count of Anjou; Count of Châlon.

Also called Geoffrey Greycloak; Gaufridus; Gauzfredus Grisegonella.

Died while besieging the fortress of Marçon.

Geoffroi married Adèle of Troyes about 965. Adèle (daughter of Robert and Adelais) died after 6 Mar 974. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Adele of Vermandois; Adelaide of Vermandois; Adelaide de Chalons.