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Elizabeth de Holand

Female - 1387


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Elizabeth de Holand was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England (daughter of Robert de Holand and Maud la Zouche); died on 13 Jul 1387 in Chewton, Somerset, England; was buried in Chewton Mendip, Somerset, England.

    Elizabeth married Henry fitz Roger before 23 May 1340. Henry (son of Roger Martel and Joan del Ortiay) was born on 30 Nov 1318 in Curry Rivel, Somerset, England; died on 29 Jan 1352; was buried in Chewton Mendip, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. John Fitz Roger was born between 1345 and 1352 in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died about 1371.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert de Holand was born about 1270 in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England (son of Robert de Holand and Elizabeth de Samlesbury); died on 7 Oct 1328 in Boreham Wood, Elstree, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Grey Friars, Preston, Lancashire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1283, of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England
    • Alternate death: 15 Oct 1328

    Notes:

    Justice of Chester; Constable of Beeston Castle. Summoned to Parliament by writ, 29 Jul 1314 to 15 May 1321.

    From Wikipedia:

    "He was a member of the noble Holland family and a favourite official of Thomas, 2nd Earl of Lancaster, and had been knighted by 1305. His favoured treatment by the powerful earl caused his rival knights in the area, led by Sir Adam Banastre, Sir Henry de Lea, and Sir William de Bradshagh (Bradshaw), to start a campaign of violence towards him and the earl's other supporters known as the Banastre Rebellion. The rebels protested against the earl's actions and authority by attacking the homes of his supporters and several castles, including Liverpool Castle. Sir Robert later assisted in the hunt for fugitives after the rebels had been routed in Preston by a force under the command of the Sheriff.

    "The manors of Thornton and Bagworth were acquired by him in 1313. From 1314 to 1321 he was called to Parliament as a member of the House of Lords. In 1322 his part in the Battle of Boroughbridge, when he defected from Lancaster to the King, was deemed treacherous and cowardly and led to his disfavour. Although King Edward III of England would later pardon him, the partisans of the Earl of Lancaster considered him a traitor and had him executed. The execution occurred in 1328 by beheading in Essex; his head was sent to the new earl and his body to Lancashire to be buried."

    From Royal Ancestry:

    "SIR ROBERT DE HOLAND, 1st LORD HOLAND, was captured by some adherents of his former patron, Earl Thomas, in Boreham Wood, Elstree, Hertfordshire 7 Oct 1328, who cut off his head for his treachery. His body was buried at Grey Friars, Preston, Lancashire."

    Robert married Maud la Zouche before 13 May 1306. Maud (daughter of Alan la Zouche and Eleanor de Segrave) was born in 1289; died on 31 May 1349; was buried in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Maud la Zouche was born in 1289 (daughter of Alan la Zouche and Eleanor de Segrave); died on 31 May 1349; was buried in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1290

    Notes:

    "She was of record as preparing to go to Santiago on pilgrimage in 1336." [Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, citation details below.]

    Children:
    1. 1. Elizabeth de Holand was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England; died on 13 Jul 1387 in Chewton, Somerset, England; was buried in Chewton Mendip, Somerset, England.
    2. Thomas de Holand died on 26 Dec 1360 in Normandy, France; was buried in Church of the Grey Friars, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England.
    3. Margaret de Holand died on 20 Aug 1349.
    4. Robert de Holand was born about 1311-1312 in of Thorpe Waterville, Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England; died on 16 Mar 1373 in Halse, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England; was buried in St. James Chapel, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.
    5. Maud de Holand was born about 1315; died before 10 May 1380; was buried in Swinnerton, Staffordshire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert de Holand was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England (son of Thurstan de Holand and (Unknown) de Kellet); died about 1300.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Between 1302 and 1305
    • Alternate death: Abt 1304

    Notes:

    Sir Robert de Holand, of Upholland, Lancs (son of Thurstan, son of Robert de Holand), by Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of William Samlesbury. [Burke's Peerage]

    "He was knighted in 1271 and was appointed one of three commissioners in Lancaster to enforce the statute of Winchester. Over the next fifteen years he served as commissioner of oyer and terminer and gaol delivery, and in July 1297 was appointed collector of the subsidy in Derbyshire." [Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, citation details below.]

    From Complete Peerage VI:528:

    Sir Robert de Holand, son of Sir Robert De Holand, of Upholland, co. Lancs (c), by Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of William de Samlesbury...

    (c) This Sir Robert was son of Thurston, son of Robert de Holand. He m. before 1276, when he and his wife were involved in a suit about Salmesbury. The date of his death is uncertain, probably about 1300. His widow was living 1311.

    Robert married Elizabeth de Samlesbury after 13 Apr 1259. Elizabeth (daughter of William de Samlesbury and Avina de Notton) was born in of Samlesbury, Lancashire, England; died after 1311. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Elizabeth de Samlesbury was born in of Samlesbury, Lancashire, England (daughter of William de Samlesbury and Avina de Notton); died after 1311.
    Children:
    1. Margaret de Holland was born in of Chorley, Lancashire, England; died before 1330.
    2. 2. Robert de Holand was born about 1270 in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England; died on 7 Oct 1328 in Boreham Wood, Elstree, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Grey Friars, Preston, Lancashire, England.
    3. Joan Holand was born about 1285.

  3. 6.  Alan la Zouche was born on 9 Oct 1267 in North Molton, Devon, England; was christened in North Molton, Devon, England (son of Roger la Zouche and Ela Longespée); died before 25 Mar 1314; was buried in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 25 Mar 1314, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England

    Notes:

    Constable of Rockingham Castle; Steward of Rockingham Forest. Fought in the vanguard at Falkirk. Present at the siege of Caerlaverock. Summoned to Parliament by writs 6 Feb 1299 to 26 Nov 1313.

    Alan married Eleanor de Segrave. Eleanor (daughter of Nicholas de Segrave and Maud de Lucy) was born in 1270. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Eleanor de Segrave was born in 1270 (daughter of Nicholas de Segrave and Maud de Lucy).
    Children:
    1. Ellen la Zouche was born in 1286; died after Oct 1344.
    2. 3. Maud la Zouche was born in 1289; died on 31 May 1349; was buried in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Thurstan de Holand was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England (son of Robert de Holand and Cecily de Columbers); died about 1276.

    Notes:

    Thurstan, son of Robert de Holand. [Burke's Peerage]

    "In 1241, he and his father were imprisoned for setting fire to one of the rector's houses in Wigan, but were released until the trial." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    Thurstan married (Unknown) de Kellet. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  (Unknown) de Kellet (daughter of Adam de Kellet).
    Children:
    1. 4. Robert de Holand was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England; died about 1300.

  3. 10.  William de Samlesbury was born in of Samlesbury, Lancashire, England (son of Roger de Samlesbury and Margaret de Clifton); died about 1256.

    William married Avina de Notton. Avina (daughter of William de Notton and Cecily de Barton) died after 1256. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Avina de Notton (daughter of William de Notton and Cecily de Barton); died after 1256.
    Children:
    1. 5. Elizabeth de Samlesbury was born in of Samlesbury, Lancashire, England; died after 1311.

  5. 12.  Roger la Zouche was born about 1241 in of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England (son of Alan la Zouche and Ellen de Quincy); died before 15 Oct 1285.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Between 1240 and 1242, of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England

    Roger married Ela Longespée before 1267. Ela (daughter of Stephen Longespée and Emeline de Ridelisford) died before 19 Jul 1276. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Ela Longespée (daughter of Stephen Longespée and Emeline de Ridelisford); died before 19 Jul 1276.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1276

    Children:
    1. 6. Alan la Zouche was born on 9 Oct 1267 in North Molton, Devon, England; was christened in North Molton, Devon, England; died before 25 Mar 1314; was buried in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.

  7. 14.  Nicholas de Segrave was born about 1238 (son of Gilbert de Segrave and Amabil de Chaucombe); died before 12 Nov 1295; was buried in Chaucombe Priory, Chaucombe, Northamptonshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 17 Dec 1238, of Seagrave, Leicestershire, England
    • Alternate death: 12 Nov 1295

    Notes:

    From Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (citation details below):

    On 28 March 1259 he was recorded as going on a pilgrimage to Pontigny, and on 28 Oct 1259 he crossed with the king to France. On 16 Sep 1261 he was at Windsor to swear he would never oppose the king, but in May 1262 he did so in Parliament. In July 1263 he joined the king in Worcester, where he was knighted on 1 Aug before going with the king to Wales. He was at the siege of Rochester with the Earl of Gloucester, Henry de Hastings and others in April 1264, and commanded the Londoners at the battle of Lewes on 14 May 1264.

    On 4 Aug 1265 he was wounded and taken prisoner at the battle of Evesham, and on 25 Oct. his lands were granted to Edmund, the king's son, but on 28 April 1266 he was coming to the king’s court to make peace. On 1 July 1267 he was pardoned, and on 12 May 1270 he was going to the Holy Land with the king and Prince Edward. He was summoned to serve in Wales in 1276, 1277, 1282 and 1283, and on 28 June 1283 was summoned to Shrewsbury to treat with Dafydd ap Gruffudd. He served on various commissions from 1290 to 1294, and was summoned to Parliament at Westminster on 24 June 1295.

    Nicholas married Maud de Lucy. Maud (daughter of Geoffrey de Lucy and Nichole de Cantelowe) was born between 1240 and 1245; died in 1337. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Maud de Lucy was born between 1240 and 1245 (daughter of Geoffrey de Lucy and Nichole de Cantelowe); died in 1337.
    Children:
    1. John de Segrave was born in of Chacombe, Northamptonshire, England; died before 4 Oct 1325 in Aquitaine, France; was buried in Chaucombe Priory, Chaucombe, Northamptonshire, England.
    2. 7. Eleanor de Segrave was born in 1270.


Generation: 5

  1. 16.  Robert de Holand was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England (son of Matthew de Holand); died between 1241 and 1242.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1242

    Notes:

    "In 1241 he and his son were imprisoned charged with setting fire to one of the rector's houses in Wigan." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Robert married Cecily de Columbers. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 17.  Cecily de Columbers (daughter of Alan de Columbers).
    Children:
    1. 8. Thurstan de Holand was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England; died about 1276.

  3. 18.  Adam de Kellet was born in of Nether Kellet, in Lansdale, Lancashire, England; died in 1272.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Lonsdale, Lancashire, England

    Children:
    1. 9. (Unknown) de Kellet

  4. 20.  Roger de Samlesbury was born in of Samlesbury, Lancashire, England (son of Gospatric de Samlesbury); died between 1224 and 1227.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1224

    Roger married Margaret de Clifton about 1194. Margaret (daughter of Walter de Clifton) died after 1252. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 21.  Margaret de Clifton (daughter of Walter de Clifton); died after 1252.
    Children:
    1. 10. William de Samlesbury was born in of Samlesbury, Lancashire, England; died about 1256.

  6. 22.  William de Notton was born in of Breightmet, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England (son of Gilbert de Notton and Juliana); died after 1218.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 16 Oct 1220

    William married Cecily de Barton. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 23.  Cecily de Barton (daughter of Augustine de Barton and Edith).
    Children:
    1. 11. Avina de Notton died after 1256.
    2. Gilbert de Notton was born in 1201 in of Barton, Lancashire, England; died about 1275.

  8. 24.  Alan la Zouche was born in of Molton, Devon, England (son of Roger la Zouche and Margaret Biset); died on 10 Aug 1270.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Bef 1217, of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1217, of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England
    • Alternate death: 12 Aug 1270

    Notes:

    Constable of the Tower of London.

    "His first taste of high office came in 1250 when he was appointed justice of the county of Chester and the Four Cantrefs (the district of north Wales east of the River Conwy). He paid 1000 marks for the post, allegedly outbidding the current holder of the office. He flaunted the wealth he raised from the district, and boasted that the whole of Wales was now reduced to obedience. But his high-handed and insensitive behaviour provoked royal investigation, and fuelled the resentment in the area against the English, which led to the violent overthrow of English rule in 1256. By then Zouche had entered the service of the Lord Edward (who had been given the royal lands in Wales, Ireland, and Chester in February 1254), and acted as his justiciar in Ireland from June 1256 to October 1258. With the onset of civil discord in England in June 1258, Zouche was given ample opportunity to display his unflinching loyalty to the king." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    Subsequent offices include steward of the royal household, Oct 1261 - Jan 1263; sheriff of Northamptonshire 1261-4; justice of the forests south of Trent Jun 1261 onward; constable of Rockingham Castle 1261-4 and Northampton Castle 1261-3; warden of London and constable of the Tower, Jun 1268 - Apr 1268.

    "Taken prisoner at the battle of Lewes (14 May 1264), Zouche escaped to Lewes Priory, where he disguised himself as a monk, but he was recaptured and imprisoned. In the aftermath of the king's victory at Evesham (4 August 1265) he played an important part in the pacification of the country: he was one of the twelve arbitrators appointed to arrange the terms of the surrender of Kenilworth Castle in 1266, and was one of the justices appointed to hear the pleas of the disinherited." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    "During an altercation in Westminster Hall on 1 July 1270, [John de] Warenne and his men assaulted Zouche and his son in the presence of the royal justice and the chancellor. Zouche suffered wounds from which he died on 10 August 1270." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    Alan married Ellen de Quincy before 1242. Ellen (daughter of Roger de Quincy and Helen of Galloway) was born about 1222 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; died before 20 Aug 1296. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  9. 25.  Ellen de Quincy was born about 1222 in Winchester, Hampshire, England (daughter of Roger de Quincy and Helen of Galloway); died before 20 Aug 1296.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Brackley, Northamptonshire, England

    Notes:

    Also called Helen; Elena; Elene.

    Children:
    1. 12. Roger la Zouche was born about 1241 in of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England; died before 15 Oct 1285.
    2. Oliver la Zouche was born about 1250 in of South Charford, Hampshire, England; died between 1316 and 1327.
    3. Margaret la Zouche was born in 1251 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.

  10. 26.  Stephen Longespée was born in of King's Sutton, Northamptonshire, England (son of William I Longespée and Ela of Salisbury); died before 25 Jun 1260; was buried in Lacock Abbey, Lacock, Wiltshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1275

    Notes:

    Justiciar of Ireland. Seneschal of Gascony.

    Stephen married Emeline de Ridelisford between 8 Feb 1243 and 16 Dec 1244. Emeline (daughter of Walter de Ridelisford and Annora) was born in of Bray, Berkshire, England; died between 18 May 1275 and 19 Jul 1276. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  11. 27.  Emeline de Ridelisford was born in of Bray, Berkshire, England (daughter of Walter de Ridelisford and Annora); died between 18 May 1275 and 19 Jul 1276.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1276

    Notes:

    Countess of Ulster.

    Children:
    1. 13. Ela Longespée died before 19 Jul 1276.

  12. 28.  Gilbert de Segrave was born before 1210 in of Seagrave, Leicestershire, England (son of Stephen de Segrave and Rohese le Despenser); died before 8 Oct 1254 in Pons, Charente-Maritime, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 1211, Seagrave, Leicestershire, England
    • Alternate death: 8 Oct 1254, Pons, Charente-Maritime, France

    Notes:

    Keeper of Newcastle-under Lyme Castle 1232, and of Bolsover Castle Feb 1232/3; Justice of the Forest below Trent 1242; Judge of King's Bench 1251.

    "He accompanied the King to Gascony in 1253. Died before 8 Oct 1254 at Pons, in Poitou, where he, the Earl of Warwick and other English nobles, when returning from Gascony, were captured and imprisoned by the citizens of Pons, who ignored the safe conduct granted by the King of France. He died of an illness while still imprisoned." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    Gilbert married Amabil de Chaucombe before 30 Sep 1231. Amabil (daughter of Robert de Chaucombe and Juliana de Cornhill) was born in of Chacombe, Northamptonshire, England; died about 1278 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England; was buried in Chaucombe Priory, Chaucombe, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  13. 29.  Amabil de Chaucombe was born in of Chacombe, Northamptonshire, England (daughter of Robert de Chaucombe and Juliana de Cornhill); died about 1278 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England; was buried in Chaucombe Priory, Chaucombe, Northamptonshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1281

    Children:
    1. 14. Nicholas de Segrave was born about 1238; died before 12 Nov 1295; was buried in Chaucombe Priory, Chaucombe, Northamptonshire, England.

  14. 30.  Geoffrey de Lucy was born in of Newington, Kent, England (son of Geoffrey de Lucy and Juliane le Despenser); died before 16 Aug 1252.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1213, of Cublington, Buckinghamshire, England

    Geoffrey married Nichole de Cantelowe before 3 Dec 1235. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  15. 31.  Nichole de Cantelowe (daughter of William II de Cantelowe and Milicent de Gournay).
    Children:
    1. 15. Maud de Lucy was born between 1240 and 1245; died in 1337.


Generation: 6

  1. 32.  Matthew de Holand died between 1212 and 1224.
    Children:
    1. 16. Robert de Holand was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England; died between 1241 and 1242.

  2. 34.  Alan de Columbers
    Children:
    1. 17. Cecily de Columbers

  3. 40.  Gospatric de Samlesbury was born in of Samlesbury, Lancashire, England (son of Swain); died before 1213.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1212

    Notes:

    Also called Gospatric fitz Swain.

    Children:
    1. 20. Roger de Samlesbury was born in of Samlesbury, Lancashire, England; died between 1224 and 1227.

  4. 42.  Walter de Clifton (son of Osbert de Clifton).
    Children:
    1. 21. Margaret de Clifton died after 1252.

  5. 44.  Gilbert de Notton was born in of Barton, Lancashire, England; died after 1212.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Notton, Yorkshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 16 Oct 1220
    • Alternate death: 1222

    Notes:

    Seneschal to John de Lacy, Constable of Chester.

    Gilbert married Juliana. Juliana was born in of Notton, Yorkshire, England; died before 1203. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 45.  Juliana was born in of Notton, Yorkshire, England; died before 1203.
    Children:
    1. 22. William de Notton was born in of Breightmet, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England; died after 1218.
    2. Gilbert de Notton died about 1220.

  7. 46.  Augustine de Barton died before 1212.

    Augustine married Edith. Edith (daughter of Matthew) died before 16 Oct 1220. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 47.  Edith (daughter of Matthew); died before 16 Oct 1220.
    Children:
    1. 23. Cecily de Barton

  9. 48.  Roger la Zouche was born about 1175 in of Black Torrington, Devon, England (son of Alan la Zouche and Alice de Belmeis); died before 14 May 1238.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Bef 1178, of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Devonshire 1228-31. A witness to Henry III's confirmation of Magna Carta.

    Roger married Margaret Biset. Margaret (daughter of Henry Biset and (Unknown first wife of Henry Biset)) was born in of Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England; died after 15 Aug 1232. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  10. 49.  Margaret Biset was born in of Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England (daughter of Henry Biset and (Unknown first wife of Henry Biset)); died after 15 Aug 1232.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1232
    • Alternate death: Bef 14 May 1238

    Children:
    1. 24. Alan la Zouche was born in of Molton, Devon, England; died on 10 Aug 1270.
    2. Eudes la Zouche was born in of Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England; died between 25 Apr 1279 and 25 Jun 1279.
    3. William la Zouche was born in of King's Nympton, Devon, England; died before 3 Feb 1272.
    4. Lorette la Zouche
    5. Alice la Zouche

  11. 50.  Roger de Quincy was born about 1195; was christened in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England (son of Saher de Quincy and Margaret of Leicester); died on 25 Apr 1264.

    Notes:

    Earl of Winchester. In right of his first wife, hereditary Constable of Scotland. "At his death he was probably the greatest Anglo-Scottish landowner of his day" [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography].

    From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

    "Little is known of Roger de Quincy before 1219. He was probably the son whom Saer delivered to King John in 1213 as a Scottish hostage for the security of the Anglo-Scottish treaty of 1212. He emerged onto the political stage in 1215 when, along with Saer and the leaders of the baronial rebellion against John, he was excommunicated by Innocent III (r. 1198–1216), but did not figure prominently in the civil war that followed the king's death. [...]

    "Roger de Quincy did not hold the prominence in politics that his father had commanded in England [...] but his wealth secured him an important role. In 1239 and 1246 he joined in written remonstrances from the English nobility to Gregory IX (r. 1227–41) and Innocent IV (r. 1243–54) concerning papal interference in English affairs. Association with the stirrings of dissatisfaction with the government of Henry III expressed in the parliaments of 1248 and 1254 led to identification with the baronial opposition in 1258. At the Oxford parliament Quincy was elected by the barons to the twelve-member commission charged with attendance at the three annual parliaments provided for under the provisions of Oxford, and was appointed also to the committee that arranged the financial aid promised to Henry. In 1259 he led a delegation to St Omer to intercept Richard, earl of Cornwall (d. 1272), and forbid him to return to England until he had sworn to observe the provisions of Oxford. This appears to have been Roger de Quincy's last major act, for he played little part in subsequent events which culminated in open conflict between the king and his baronial opponents, and died on 25 April 1264, eighteen days after Henry had precipitated the country into civil war."

    Roger married Helen of Galloway. Helen (daughter of Alan fitz Roland and (Unknown daughter of Roger de Lacy)) died after 21 Nov 1245; was buried in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  12. 51.  Helen of Galloway (daughter of Alan fitz Roland and (Unknown daughter of Roger de Lacy)); died after 21 Nov 1245; was buried in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Ellen.

    Alan Fitz Roland, often called Alan of Galloway, married three times. His first wife was a daughter of Roger of Chester, who is often called Roger de Lacy. His second wife was Margaret of Scotland, daughter of David, Earl of Huntington. His third wife was a daughter of Hugh de Lacy, 1st Earl of Ulster.

    The presence of two marriages to daughters of men called de Lacy, both of which daughters' names have been lost, has created understandable confusion. Many online sources show Alan Fitz Roland's daughter Ellen as a daughter of his third marriage. In fact she was a daughter of his first; her maternal grandfather was Roger of Chester, also called Roger de Lacy -- not Hugh de Lacy. To the best of our knowledge, Alan Fitz Roland's third marriage was without issue.

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth de Quincy died before 4 May 1303.
    2. 25. Ellen de Quincy was born about 1222 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; died before 20 Aug 1296.
    3. Margaret de Quincy was born before 1223; died before 12 Mar 1281.

  13. 52.  William I Longespée was born in 1170 (son of Henry II, King of England and Ida de Tony); died about 1225; was buried in Salisbury Cathedral, Wiltshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1175
    • Alternate birth: Between 1175 and 1180
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1176
    • Alternate death: 7 Mar 1226, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

    Notes:

    Earl of Salisbury. Among the advisors to King John at Runnymede.

    Lieutenant of Gascony 1202; Seneschal of Avranches 1203; Constable of Dover Castle and Warden of the Cinque Ports 1204-6; Sheriff of Wiltshire 1204-7, 1213-26; Lord of the Honour and Castle of Eye 1205; Cheriff of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire 1212-21; Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire 1223-4; Constable of Portchester, Southampton, and Winchester Castle 1224; Keeper of the March of Wales.

    Yes, there really were two Ida de Longespees, and they were sisters. SGM post:

    From: Douglas Richardson Subject: Parentage of Ida Longespée, wife of Walter Fitz Robert Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:51:45 -0700 (PDT)

    There has been discussion in the past on the newsgroup regarding the placement of Ida Longespée, wife of Walter Fitz Robert, in the Longespée family tree. Complete Peerage, 5 (1926): 472 (sub FitzWalter) identifies Ida as "daughter of William (Longespée), Earl of Salisbury." The William Longespée intended here is presumably William Longespée I who died in 1226, not his son, William II, who died in 1250. If so, this would give Earl William Longespée I and his wife, Ela, two adult daughters named Ida, one of whom married Walter Fitz Robert, and the other who married William de Beauchamp. Curiously Complete Peerage, 11 (1949): 381-382 footnote k (sub Salisbury) confuses Walter Fitz Robert's wife Ida with her sister of the same name who married William de Beauchamp; it also misidentifies Walter Fitz Robert's parentage.

    The identification of Ida, wife of Walter Fitz Robert, as a Longespée has traditionally rested on a pedigree of the Longespée family found in Lacock Priory cartulary. This pedigree lists the various children of William Longespée I, Earl of Salisbury, and his wife, Ela of Salisbury, including:

    "Idam de Camyle, quam duxit in uxorem Walterus fil. Roberti, de qua genuit Catherinam et Loricam, quæ velatæ erant apud Lacok; Elam, quam duxit primo Guillelmus de Dodingeseles, de qua genuit Robertum") [Reference: Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum, 6(1) (1830): 501].

    It is not known exactly why Ida Longespée is here styled Ida de Camyle in this record. I've assumed, however, that Ida may have had a brief Camville marriage previous to her known marriage to Walter Fitz Robert. If so, a previous Camvillle marriage would explain her use of the Camville surname as a grown adult. Ida's older brother, William Longespée II, is known, for example, to have married a member of the Camville family.

    There are two contemporary records which prove that Ida, wife of Walter Fitz Robert, was in fact a Longespée. The first record comes from List of Ancient Correspondence of the Chancery and Exchequer, which source contains an abstract of a letter dated 1261-1263 from Ida, widow of Walter Fitz Robert, written to Walter de Merton, the king's chancellor, in which Ida specifically styles herself Ida Longespée:

    "152. Ida Longespée, widow of Walter Fitz Robert, to the same [Walter de Merton, Chancellor]: to bail two of her men appealed of homicide. [1261-1263]." [Reference: List of Ancient Correspondence of the Chancery and Exchequer (PRO Lists and Indexes 15) (1902): 107-108].

    Elsewhere I find that Calendar of Liberate Rolls 5 (1961): 93 likewise refers to Ida, widow of Walter Fitz Robert, as "Ida Lungespee:"

    Date: 11 May 1162 -- "Liberate to Geoffrey de Lezinan, the king's brother, 40l. in recompense of a like sum received there of the issues of the manor of Henham [Essex] by the hands of Ida Lungespee." END OF QUOTE.

    To date to my knowledge no one has discovered Ida Longespée's maritagium, although she certainly had one in marriage. Recently I encountered a record which evidently concerns her maritagium. The record in question is a Wiltshire pleading which dates from 1249:

    "Walter son of Robert and Ida his wife, by Ida's attorney by writ of the present king, who brought an assize of novel disseisin against William Lungepeie for holdings in Scepperingge and Heniton, Farlegh' and Bidinham, have come and withdrawn by licence. It is agreed between them that Walter and Ida had put themselves utterly in William's grace for those holdings." [Reference: Clanchy, Civil Pleas of the Wiltshire Eyre 1249 (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 26) (1971): 152].

    The lands involved in this lawsuit can be identified as Sheepbridge (in Swallowfield), Hinton (in Hurst), Farley [Hill] (in Swallowfield), and Diddenham (in Shinfield), all in modern Berkshire but formerly in Wiltshire. These lands were apparently held by William Longespée I and his wife, Countess Ela.

    VCH Berkshire 3 (1923): 267-274 states that Sheepbridge "belonged with Hinton in 1236 to Ela, Countess of Salisbury." Countess Ela named here was the widow of William Longespée I. VCH's statement regarding Countess Ela's holding of these lands is based on a charter found in Calendar of Charter Rolls 1226 - 57, page 221, whereby the king confirmed a grant of Countess Ela of various lands to Lacock Abbey, in exchange for "10 l. yearly receivable ...... .of the manors of Shiperige and Henton, and the advowson of the church of Winterburn Shyreveton."

    The above record may be viewed at the following weblink:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=1dELAQA AIAAJ&pg=PP1&dq=Calendar+Charter+Rolls+1226&hl=en&ei=M-U4TrbTFYvXiALj163DDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=r esult&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Calendar%20Charter%20Rolls%201226&f=false

    Countess Ela's charter is undated but surely must date from around 1236. My files notes show the following information:

    "In Feb. 1236 her son and heir, William Longespée, guaranteed her gifts to Lacock Abbey, while she agreed to surrender all her lands, rents and rights to him on 1 Nov. following. On 25 Oct. 1236 Ela, Countess of Salisbury, reached agreement with William Longespée, her first born son, that she may grant a moiety of the manor of Heddington, Wiltshire to Lacock Priory, which property fell to her on the death of Maud de Mandeville, Countess of Essex and Hereford. In the winter 1236 - 7 she resigned her custody of the county of Wiltshire. She subsequently entered her religious foundation at Lacock, where she took the veil before spring 1238." END OF QUOTE FROM MY FILE NOTES.

    Following Countess Ela's surrender of her lands to her son, William Longespée II, he in turn granted the four properties in question, namely Sheepbridge, Hinton, Farley, and Diddenham, to his seneschal, Sir Henry de la Mare. The date of this grant is sometime before 1239-40.

    In that year Sir Henry de la Mare was involved in a legal action concerning these four properties. A reference to this lawsuit may be found in Maitland, Bracton's Note Book 3 (1887): 286 - 287. This may be viewed at the following weblink:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=DtcQAAA AYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:LtFTiI1NIsEC&hl=en&ei=nmw5TsSXK42IsAKv3OEg&sa=X&oi=book_result &ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

    So the question arises: When did Walter Fitz Robert and his wife, Ida Longespée, acquire their interest in the four properties? The answer to that question is not exact but surely it must have dated from the time that Countess Ela of Salisbury was holding these properties and before 1 Nov. 1236 when Countess Ela surrendered all her lands, rents, and rights to her son, William Longespée II. Walter and Ida can't have acquired their interest from William Longespée II, as once his mother released her lands to him, he almost immediately conveyed these four properties to his seneschal, Sir Henry de la Mare. One of these properties, Hinton, subsequently descended to Sir Henry de la Mare's daughter and heiress, Maud, wife of Peter de Montfort, and thence to her descendants [see VCH Berkshire 3 (1923): 247 - 260].

    So besides knowing that Walter Fitz Robert and Ida Longespée obtained their interest in the properties before 1236, what else can we know? More specifically, why would Ida claim these lands, if her brother had granted them to his seneschal?

    The answer to this question is not clear but a reasonable guess would be that these four properties were put up as Ida's maritagium when she was contracted to marry a Camville and that when the contracted Camville marriage failed to materialize or produced no issue, by the terms of the marriage contract, the lands returned to Ida's family. At that point, Ida's claim to the lands was essentially voided. This in turn would explain why Ida's brother, William Longespée II, felt free to grant these lands elsewhere to Sir Henry de la Mare.

    In summary, adequate evidence has been located which indicates that Ida, wife of Walter Fitz Robert, was a Longespée. In 1249 Walter Fitz Robert and his wife, Ida, sued William Longespée II regarding four properties then in Wiltshire, but now in Berkshire. The four properties in question were apparently part of the inheritance of Ida's mother, Countess Ela, who appears to have controlled the lands until 1236, when she released her lands to her son, William Longespée II. Ida's rights must predate 1236, as William Longespée II almost immediately conveyed these properties before 1239-40 to his seneschal, Sir Henry de la Mare. Thus William Longespée II can not have offered them as Ida's maritagium. This in turn implies that Ida Longespée was the daughter of William Longespée I and his wife, Countess Ela, and not William Longespée II.

    For interest's sake, the following is a list of the numerous 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Ida Longespée, wife of Walter Fitz Robert:

    Robert Abell, Dannett Abney, Elizabeth Alsop, William Asfordby, Walter Aston, Christopher Batt, Henry, Thomas & William Batte, Essex Beville, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Thomas Booth, Elizabeth Bosvile, Mary Bourchier, George & Robert Brent, Thomas Bressey, Edward Bromfield, Nathaniel Browne, Obadiah Bruen, Stephen Bull, Elizabeth, John, and Thomas Butler, Charles Calvert, Edward Carleton, Kenelm Cheseldine, Grace Chetwode, Jeremy Clarke, Matthew Clarkson, St. Leger Codd, Henry Corbin, Francis Dade, Humphrey Davie, Frances, Jane & Katherine Deighton, Edward Digges, Thomas Dudley, William Farrer, John Fenwick, John Fisher, Muriel Gurdon, Katherine Hamby, Elizabeth & John Harleston, Warham Horsmanden, Anne Humphrey, Mary Launce, Hannah, Samuel & Sarah Levis, Nathaniel Littleton, Henry, Jane & Nicholas Lowe, Symon Lynde, Agnes Mackworth, Roger & Thomas Mallory, Anne, Elizabeth & John Mansfield, Anne & Katherine Marbury, Anne Mauleverer, Richard More, Joseph & Mary Need, John and Margaret Nelson, Philip & Thomas Nelson, Ellen Newton, Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge, Herbert Pelham, Robert Peyton, George Reade, Thomas Rudyard, Katherine Saint Leger, Richard Saltonstall, William Skepper, Diana & Grey Skipwith, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stratton, James Taylor, Samuel & William Torrey, Margaret Touteville, Olive Welby, John West, Thomas Yale.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    William married Ela of Salisbury before Sep 1197. Ela (daughter of William fitz Patrick and Eleanor de Vitré) was born about 1191 in Amesbury, Wiltshire, England; died on 24 Aug 1261 in Lacock, Wiltshire, England; was buried in 1261 in Lacock Abbey, Lacock, Wiltshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  14. 53.  Ela of Salisbury was born about 1191 in Amesbury, Wiltshire, England (daughter of William fitz Patrick and Eleanor de Vitré); died on 24 Aug 1261 in Lacock, Wiltshire, England; was buried in 1261 in Lacock Abbey, Lacock, Wiltshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Ela fitz William. Founded the abbey at Laycock, 1238; abbess, 1240-57. Buried "in the convent choir beneath the altar." [Royal Ancestry]

    Children:
    1. Idonea de Longespée died after 1266.
    2. 26. Stephen Longespée was born in of King's Sutton, Northamptonshire, England; died before 25 Jun 1260; was buried in Lacock Abbey, Lacock, Wiltshire, England.
    3. Ida Longespée died after 1261.
    4. William Longespée was born before 12 May 1205; died on 7 Feb 1249 in Mansourah, Egypt.

  15. 54.  Walter de Ridelisford was born in of Bray, Berkshire, England (son of Walter de Ridelisford and Amabilis fitz Henry); died before 12 Dec 1244.

    Walter married Annora. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  16. 55.  Annora
    Children:
    1. 27. Emeline de Ridelisford was born in of Bray, Berkshire, England; died between 18 May 1275 and 19 Jul 1276.

  17. 56.  Stephen de Segrave was born in of Seagrave, Leicestershire, England (son of Gilbert de Segrave); died before 16 Oct 1241; was buried in Leicester Abbey, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 9 Nov 1241

    Notes:

    Sheriff of six counties. Chief justice of England. Major councillor to Henry III. Said to have died as a monk at Leicester Abbey.

    From Wikipedia:

    Constable of the Tower of London in 1220. He obtained lands and held various positions under Henry III. From 1221 to 1223 he served as High Sheriff of Hertfordshire and Essex, from 1222 to 1224 as High Sheriff of Lincolnshire, from 1228 to 1234 as High Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire and from 1229 to 1234 as High Sheriff of Warwickshire, Leicestershire and Northamptonshire. In 1236, he became castellan of Beeston Castle and Chester Castle, jointly with Hugh de Spencer and Henry de Aldithley.

    He was given the manor where Caludon Castle was built, at Wyken near Coventry in 1232 or earlier, by Ranulph de Blondeville, 4th Earl of Chester. Ranulph also granted him Bretby in 1209.

    In 1232, he succeeded Hubert de Burgh as chief justiciar of England. He officiated at the trial of de Burgh, in November 1232, which has been called the "first state trial" in England. As an active coadjutor of Peter des Roches, bishop of Winchester, Segrave incurred some share of the opprobrium which was lavished on the Poitevin royal favourites of Henry III of England. In 1234, he was deprived of his office as Justiciar. Soon, however, he was again occupying an influential position at Henry's court, and he retained this until his death.

    Stephen married Rohese le Despenser. Rohese (daughter of Thomas Despenser and Rohese) died before 2 Mar 1289. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  18. 57.  Rohese le Despenser (daughter of Thomas Despenser and Rohese); died before 2 Mar 1289.
    Children:
    1. 28. Gilbert de Segrave was born before 1210 in of Seagrave, Leicestershire, England; died before 8 Oct 1254 in Pons, Charente-Maritime, France.

  19. 58.  Robert de Chaucombe was born in of Chaucombe, Northamptonshire (son of Hugh de Chaucombe and Hodierne de Lucerne); died in 1238.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 13 Sep 1246

    Robert married Juliana de Cornhill. Juliana (daughter of William de Cornhill) was born in of Cornhill, Northumberland, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  20. 59.  Juliana de Cornhill was born in of Cornhill, Northumberland, England (daughter of William de Cornhill).
    Children:
    1. 29. Amabil de Chaucombe was born in of Chacombe, Northamptonshire, England; died about 1278 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England; was buried in Chaucombe Priory, Chaucombe, Northamptonshire, England.

  21. 60.  Geoffrey de Lucy was born in of Newington, Kent, England (son of Geoffrey de Lucy and (Unknown second wife of Geoffrey de Lucy)); died before Dec 1234.

    Geoffrey married Juliane le Despenser in 1207. Juliane (daughter of Amaury le Despenser and Amabel de Chesney) died after 1229. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  22. 61.  Juliane le Despenser (daughter of Amaury le Despenser and Amabel de Chesney); died after 1229.
    Children:
    1. 30. Geoffrey de Lucy was born in of Newington, Kent, England; died before 16 Aug 1252.

  23. 62.  William II de Cantelowe was born in of Calne, Wiltshire, England (son of William I de Cantelowe and Masceline de Bracy); died on 22 Feb 1251.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1185, of Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England

    Notes:

    Steward of the royal household to Henry III. "[N]amed by Roger of Wendover among the evil counsellors of King John of England, apparently for no better reason than that they were consistently loyal to an unpopular master." [Wikipedia]

    William married Milicent de Gournay before Jul 1215. Milicent (daughter of Hugh de Gournay and Juliane de Dammartin) died before 1233. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  24. 63.  Milicent de Gournay (daughter of Hugh de Gournay and Juliane de Dammartin); died before 1233.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1260

    Notes:

    Countess of Gloucester; Countess of Evreux.

    Children:
    1. William III de Cantelowe was born in of Calne, Wiltshire, England; died on 25 Sep 1254 in Calstone, Wiltshire, England; was buried on 30 Sep 1254 in Studley Priory, Warwickshire, England.
    2. Juliane de Cantelowe died after 6 Aug 1285.
    3. Agnes de Cantelowe died after 1279.
    4. 31. Nichole de Cantelowe
    5. John de Cantelowe was born in of Bearley, Warwickshire, England; died after 1278.
    6. St. Thomas de Cantelowe was born about 1218 in Hambleden, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 25 Aug 1282 in Ferento, Montefiascone, Italy; was buried in Hereford Cathedral, Hereford, Herefordshire, England.