Margaret

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From Complete Peerage (IV:316):

[Baldwin de Reviers] married Margaret, daughter and heir of Warin Fitz Gerold, the King's Chamberlain, by Alice (to whom she was coheir), sister and heir of William de Curcy, and daughter of another William de Curcy, both of Stogursey, Somerset, Irby, co. Lincoln, &c. He died 1 September 1216, aged 16 or less. His widow was immediately afterwards forced by King John (who died 18 October) to marry the notorious Faukes de Breaute?, a Norman, at whose downfall in 1224, she was captured, or rather rescued, on the surrender of Bedford Castle, 14 August. Directly after this she demanded that her marriage should be annulled, as she had been taken prisoner in time of war and married to Faukes without her consent. He was sentenced to exile for ever, and was given letters of conduct, 26 October 1224, to quit the realm as soon as possible: the Earl of Warenne being ordered to take him to the sea-coast, and, having put him on board ship, to commit him to the winds and the sails. He proceeded to Rome to obtain the Pope's assistance to recover his lands and his wife with her dower, and died on his return thence, after 11 July 1226, at St. Cyriac in Languedoc. Margaret died shortly before 29 September 1252, and was buried in the Church of the Grey Friars, London.

Family/Spouse: Baldwin de Revières. Baldwin (son of William de Revières and Mabel de Meulan) was born after 28 Apr 1200; died on 1 Sep 1216. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Baldwin de Revières died on 15 Feb 1245; was buried in Breamore Priory, Hampshire, England.

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King's chamberlain.

Warin married Alice de Courcy. Alice (daughter of William III de Courcy and Gundred de Warenne) was born in of Stogursey, Williton, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Chamberlain to Henry II.

Henry married Maude de Chesney. Maude died before 1198. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Or de Curcy.

William married Gundred de Warenne. Gundred (daughter of Reynold de Warenne and Alice de Wormegay) died before 9 May 1225. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Avice de Rumilly about 1125. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Avice de Meschin. Lady of Harewood.

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Sheriff of Sussex 1170-76. Administered the estates of his older brother William, Earl of Surrey, both before and after William left on crusade in 1147. Died as a monk.

Reynold married Alice de Wormegay in 1167. Alice (daughter of William de Wormegay) was born in of Wormegay, Norfolk, England; died about 29 Sep 1179. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Steward to Henry I.

William married Emma de Falaise. Emma (daughter of William de Falaise and Geva de Burci) was born between 1078 and 1093; died about 1130. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Abt 1135

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"The most important member of a tightly knit family group was Ranulf's younger brother William le Meschin (d. 1129x35). William went on the first crusade, where he is mentioned, as 'William son of Ranulf le vicomte' at the siege of Nicaea in 1097 (Ordericus Vitalis, Eccl. hist., 5.59). In Cumbria William le Meschin was first given charge of Gilsland, which he failed to hold against the Scots, and then Egremont (the barony of Copeland). He built the castle at Egremont, and close by on the coast he founded the priory of St Bees, a further daughter house of St Mary's, York. William le Meschin married Cecily de Rumilly, the daughter of Robert de Rumilly and heir to the barony of Skipton in Craven, west Yorkshire, thus creating a substantial cross-Pennine estate. William and Cecily were the founders of the priory of Embsay, which later removed to Bolton in Wharfedale. In addition to the two baronies of Egremont and Skipton, William le Meschin acquired tenancies in several counties, the more significant held of his brother in Lincolnshire (where the Lindsey survey of 1115 - 18 provides detailed record) and in Cheshire. William remained closely linked with Ranulf, whom he survived by just a few years, dying before 1135. An elder son, Matthew, having predeceased him, William's heirs were successively his younger son, also called Ranulf le Meschin, and three sisters, Amice, Alice, and Matilda, who in the course of a total of seven marriages comprehensively dismembered the estate." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

"William le Meschin, Lord of Copeland, br. of Ranulph, 1st Earl of Chester, yr. s. of Rannulf, Vicomte of the Bessin, m. Cicely de Rumilly, Lady of Skipton, da. and h. of Robert de Rumelli, of Harewood and Skipton, co. York (see ped. of Lisle in vol. viii, between pp. 48 and 49), and had 3 daughters and coheirs. (1) Alice, Lady of Skipton, who m., 1stly, William fitz Duncan, s. of Duncan II, King of Scots. See Clay, Early Yorks Charters, vol. vii, pp. 9—10. They had one s., William, 'the Boy of Egremont', who d. in the King’s ward after 1155, leaving his 3 sisters his coheirs: (i) Cicely, as in the text; (ii) Amabel, Lady of Copeland (called in the Pipe Rolls and elsewhere, Comitissa de Couplanda, who m. Reynold de Lucy (see vol. iii, pp. 247-8, sub Lucy); (iii) Alice de Rumilly, Lady of Allerdale, who m., 1stly, Gilbert Pipard, Sheriff of cos. Gloucester and Hereford, and 2ndly, Robert de Courtenay, Sheriff of Cumberland and d. s.p. (see vol. ix, pp. 527-8, sub Pipard). Alice, Lady of Skipton, m. 2ndly, Alexander FitzGerold. (2) Avice, Lady of Harewood, who m., 1stly, William de Courcy III, 2ndly, William Paynell, of Drax, co. York, and 3rdly, William de Percy of Rougemont, in Harewood, co. York (see vol. x, p. 319, sub Paynel, and p. 439, sub Percy). (3) Maud, m. 1stly, Philip de Belmeis, of Tong, Salop., and 2ndly, Hugh de Mortimer, of Wigmore, co. Hereford (see vol. ix, p. 271, note sub Mortimer (of Wigmore), and vol. xii, part 2, pp. 930—1, sub Zouche.)" [Complete Peerage I:353, footnote (d), as thoroughly corrected in Volume XIV.]

William married Cecily de Rumilly. Cecily (daughter of Robert de Rumilly) was born in of Skipton, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Earl of Surrey; usually styled Earl of Warenne. Advisor to King John at Runnymede.

William married Isabel de Vermandois after 5 Jun 1118. Isabel (daughter of Hugues le Grand and Adèle de Vermandois) died before Jun 1147. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef Jul 1147

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Countess of Leicester. Also called Elizabeth de Vermandois.

Royal Ancestry says she was living c. 1138 and that she died "13 (or 17) February, sometime before June 1147, when her son, William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey, left on crusade." Several sources say she died in the priory of Lewes, Sussex.

Via her two husbands and thirteen children, descent from her is so common among modern people with traceable medieval ancestry that Douglas Richardson once jokingly asserted the existence of an exclusive lineage organization called the Society of Non-Descendants of Isabel de Vermandois. Of the 19 root people in this database with demonstrable descent from any monarch, only three would be eligible for membership in such a group.

Richard married Wandelmode. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Guadalmode.

William married Geva de Burci. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Sometimes also called Ranulph le Meschin, but that seems to have originally been applied to his son, as "meschin" means "younger" or "junior." Vicomte de Bessin; Count of Bayeux.

"The Bessin is an area in Normandy, France, corresponding to the territory of the Bajocasses tribe of Gaul who also gave their name to the city of Bayeux, central town of the Bessin. [...] The Bessin corresponds to the former diocese of Bayeux, which was incorporated into the Calvados département following the French Revolution." [Wikipedia]

Ranulph married Margaret d'Avranches. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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The ODNB calls her "Matilda, daughter of Richard, vicomte of the Avranchin."

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Also spelled Romelli, Rumelli, etc.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 1089

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1st Earl of Surrey. One of the Conqueror's fifteen proven companions. Died from wounds sustained at the siege of Pevensey.

William married Gundred of Flanders before 1070. Gundred was born in Flanders; died on 27 May 1085 in Castle Acre, Norfolk, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Countess of Surrey. Also called Gundreda de Gand; Gundrada.

"Possibly da. of Gerbod, hereditary advocate of the abbey of St. Bertin at St. Omer." [Complete Peerage]

"[She] was called 'daughter of the Conqueror,' although no evidence was advanced." [Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., "Royal Bye-Blows: The Illegitimate Children of the English Kings from William I to Edward III", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 119:94, 1965]

From Wikipedia:

Gundred or Gundreda (Latin: Gundrada) (died 27 May 1085) was the Flemish-born wife of an early Norman baron, William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey. She and her husband established Lewes Priory in Sussex.

Gundred was almost certainly born in Flanders, and was a sister of Gerbod the Fleming, 1st Earl of Chester. She is explicitly so called by Orderic Vitalis, as well as the chronicle of Hyde Abbey. She was also sister of Frederick of Oosterzele-Scheldewindeke, who was killed c. 1070 by Hereward the Wake. Legends based in part on late Lewes priory cartulary suggested Gundred was a daughter of William the Conqueror by his spouse Matilda of Flanders, but this is not accepted by most modern historians. The early-19th-century writer Thomas Stapleton had argued she was a daughter of Matilda, born prior to her marriage to Duke William. This sparked a debate consisting of a series of published papers culminating with those of Edmond Chester Waters and Edward Augustus Freeman who argued the theories could not be supported. Regardless, some genealogical and historical sources continue to make the assertion that she was the Conqueror's daughter.

Gundred married before 1070 William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey (d. 20 June 1088), who rebuilt Lewes Castle, making it his chief residence. Sometime between 1078 and 1082, Gundrada and her husband set out for Rome visiting monasteries along the way. In Burgundy they were unable to go any further due to a war between Henry IV and Pope Gregory VII. They visited Cluny Abbey and were impressed with the monks and their dedication. William and Gundred decided to found a Cluniac priory on their own lands in England. They sent to Hugh the abbot of Cluny for monks to come to England at their monastery. Hugh was reluctant yet eventually sent several monks including Lazlo who became the first abbot. The house they founded was Lewes Priory, dedicated to St. Pancras. Gundred died in childbirth 27 May 1085 at Castle Acre, Norfolk, one of her husband's estates, and was buried at the Chapter house of Lewes Priory. He was later buried beside her.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 18 Oct 1102, Tarsus, Cilicia

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Count of Crépy. Count of Vermandois and Valois. Duke of France.

Also called Hugh "Magnus".

The place where he died, in what is now south-central Turkey, is the same Tarsus as in "Saul of Tarsus," before he turned into St. Paul.

Post to SGM by Nathaniel Lane Taylor, 22 Jan 2004, about the battle in which Hugues died:

[I]t was I who first first posted the death date & circumstances on Hugh of Vermandois when I started this whole messy thread. But the 1101 date is clearly correct, because Hugh died of wounds after the battle in which a Crusader force was annihilated at Heraklea (Asia Minor) in late September of 1101. There is no mistaking the year, in the chronology of the first Crusade's aftermath. Runciman (2:28-29) does not provide a precise date for that battle, but it was one of three major failures of Western forces the Summer and Fall of 1101. See generally his History of the Crusades, vol. 2, chapter 2, "The Crusades of 1101." On the battle at Heraklea, he says:

"Early in September they [see below] entered Heraclea, which they found deserted as Konya had been. Just beyond the town flowed the river, one of the few Anatolian streams to flow abundantly throughout the summer. The Christian warriors, half-mad from thirst, broke their ranks to rush to the welcoming water. But the Turkish army lay concealed in the thickets on the river banks. As the crusaders surged on in disorder, the Turks sprang out on them and surrounded them. There was no time to reform ranks. Panic spread through the Christian army. Horsemen and infantry were mixed in a dreadful stampede; and as they stumbled in their attempt to flee they were slaughtered by the enemy. The duke of Aquitaine, followed by one of his grooms, cut his way out and rode into the mountains. After many days of wandering through the passes he found his way to Tarsus. Hugh of Vermandois was badly wounded in the battle; but some of his men rescued him and he too reached Tarsus. But he was a dying man. His death took place on 18 October and they buried him there in the Cathedral of St Paul. He never fulfilled his vow to go to Jerusalem. Welf of Bavaria only escaped by throwing away all his armor. After several weeks he arrived with two or three attendants at Antioch. Archbishop Thiemo [of Salzburg] was taken prisoner and martyred for his faith. The fate of the Margravine of Austria is unknown. Later legends said that she ended her days a captive in a far-off harem, where she gave birth to the Moslem hero Zengi. More probably she was thrown from her litter in the panic and trampled to death."

Runciman cites Albert of Aachen, 8.34-40 (pp. 579-82 in the edition he cites); and Ekkehard, 24-26 (pp. 30-32), among other material on the legend of the the Margravine of Austria, etc.

It is PNH's contention that this Hugh le Grand is the exact bellybutton of the Middle Ages. His father was a king of France; his mother was one of the daughters of Yaroslav the Wise, Grand Prince of Kiev; and his daughter Isabel married, as her first husband, one of the Conqueror's proven companions at Hastings. Another daughter, Agnes, married a marcher lord of northern Italy. Through his mother he was also descended from three canonized Kievan saints and two kings of Sweden. He married the last member of the Carolingian dynasty. He died on Crusade. He was called Hugues le Grand. Case closed.

Hugues married Adèle de Vermandois about 1080. Adèle (daughter of Herbert IV and Adela of Vexin) died in 1120; was buried on 28 Sep 1120 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Between 1120 and 1124

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Countess of Vermandois. Last member of the Carolingian dynasty.

According to Royal Ancestry, she died "28 September, between 1120 and 1124."