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Joan de Lucy

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Joan de Lucy (daughter of Anthony de Lucy and Elizabeth); died on 4 Jul 1369.

    Family/Spouse: William de Melton. William (son of Henry de Melton) was born in of Aston, Yorkshire, England; died in 1362. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. William de Melton was born between 1339 and 1341 in of Aston, Yorkshire, England; died on 7 Mar 1399.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Anthony de Lucy was born between 1281 and 1283 (son of Thomas de Lucy and Isabel de Boltby); died in 1343.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Cumberland 1318-19, 1323, 1338-41. Chief Justiciar of Ireland.

    Summoned to Parliament by writ, 1323.

    Anthony married Elizabeth. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Elizabeth

    Notes:

    Her identity as Elizabeth "de Tilliol", a daughter of Robert de Tilliol, seems uncertain. Robert de Tilliol may have been her first husband instead.

    Children:
    1. 1. Joan de Lucy died on 4 Jul 1369.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Thomas de Lucy was born in of Aspatria, Cumberland, England (son of Alan de Multon and Alice de Lucy); died before 9 Apr 1305.

    Thomas married Isabel de Boltby before 27 Sep 1280. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Isabel de Boltby (daughter of Adam de Boltby and Annor).
    Children:
    1. 2. Anthony de Lucy was born between 1281 and 1283; died in 1343.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Alan de Multon was born in of Moulton near Spalding, Lincolnshire, England (son of Thomas de Multon and Sarah de Flete); died after 1255.

    Alan married Alice de Lucy before 1219. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Alice de Lucy (daughter of Richard de Lucy and Ada de Morville).
    Children:
    1. 4. Thomas de Lucy was born in of Aspatria, Cumberland, England; died before 9 Apr 1305.

  3. 10.  Adam de Boltby was born in of Langley, Northumberland, England.

    Adam married Annor. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Annor
    Children:
    1. 5. Isabel de Boltby


Generation: 5

  1. 16.  Thomas de Multon was born in of Moulton near Spalding, Lincolnshire, England (son of Thomas de Multon and Eleanor); died in 1240.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Lincolnshire 1205-8; Justice of Common Pleas 1224-36; Sheriff of Cumberland 1233-6.

    Thomas received wardship of Ada's 1st husband Richard de Lucy's daughters; and he married them to his sons.

    From Wikipedia:

    "Sir Thomas was an unlucky speculator under John, King of England owing over £800 when the Exchequer reopened after the end of the First Barons' War. In 1205 he purchased the office of High Sheriff of Lincolnshire, which he held until 1208. Unable to pay his debts, he was imprisoned in Rochester Castle until he had discharged them. He regained royal favour, and in 1213 was appointed to investigate extortions by the High Sheriffs of Lincolnshire and Yorkshire. As a northern lord and debtor Moulton sided with the Barons during the First Baron's War (see Magna Carta). A civil war that was fought over land that he had earned; during his service to the crown in the Crusades and was the very reason for his knighthood. He was also one of the rebels who mustered at Stamford in 1215. As a consequence he was excommunicated in 1216 having previously been captured by the King in 1215. He was then entrusted to Peter de Mauley and his lands were confiscated, being restored in 1217.

    "Under Henry III Moulton became an important royal agent in the north; between 1217 and 1218 he was an itinerant justice for Cumberland, Westmorland, Lancashire, Yorkshire, and Northumberland. In 1224 he sat as a justice at Westminster, a position he held until 1236. In 1229 he was made Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, a position he held until 1233 and again between 1234 and 1236. Between 1233 and 1236 he was High Sheriff of Cumberland and constable of Carlisle Castle. His last activity was in 1238, when he worked as a surveyor of the royal demesne in Cumberland, dying in 1240."

    From Complete Peerage IX:399-401:

    Thomas de Multon, son and heir. He was the builder of the family fortunes both by his personal abilities and the rich marriages which he contrived to secure for himself and his children. He had succeeded his father by 1201; in 1202 was abroad in the King's service, and had pardon of tallage for himself and his men in 1204. He gave 500 marks in 1205 to be sheriff of Lincs for 7 years, but was thrown into prison in Rochester in the summer of 1208. His brother Alan appears to have served for him with the King in Ireland in 1210, and he himself to have taken part in the King's campaign in North Wales in the following year. He had regained credit and the King's favour by 1213. He presumably took part in John's disastrous expedition to Poitou, February to November 1214, and was with the King at Guildford early in 1215, but at the Easter meeting at Stamford declared himself on the side of the Barons. In December he was taken at the capture of Rochester Castle, and imprisoned at Corfe. His castle of Moulton and lands were seized and committed to the Earl of Chester. Negotiations for his liberation went on till after the death of John, and a heavy ransom was paid. He was excommunicated by name among the insurgent Barons and their chief adherents. He returned to his allegiance 29 July 1217. In 1218, after his 2nd marriage, he had order for livery of the castle of Egremont and lands in Coupland, and all his wife's lands in Cumberland and Westmorland, and was made justice in Eyre of those counties and Lancs. He was appointed a justice of the Common Pleas in 1224, and sat till 1236. He was knighted by November 1224. In Feb. following at Westminster he witnessed the confirmation of the Magna Carta and the Charter of the Forest. In 1226 he was appointed chief keeper of the annual fair at Boston. In April 1230 he was in charge of money and jewels which the King was taking to France; in May he was made joint keeper of the coast and ports of Lincs; and in October the castle of Miserden, Glos., was committed to him. He was appointed sheriff of Cumberland, with custody of Carlisle Castle, 27 January1232/3, acting till Easter 1236; and in April 1238 a commissioner to 'extend' lands in Cumberland and Northumberland for the King of Scots.

    He married, 1stly, possibly circa 1190, Sarah, daughter and heir of Richard de Flete (son of Josce de Flete), by Juliane, who brought him the manor of Fleet, Lincs. He married, 2ndly, before 10 March 1217/8, Ada, widow of Richard de Lucy (died 1213), and elder daughter and coheir of Hugh de Morvill, by Heloise de Stuteville, which Ada was mother of the two heiresses to whom he married his sons (see Lucy). He died in 1240. His widow died shortly afterwards.

    Thomas married Sarah de Flete about 1190. Sarah (daughter of Richard de Flete and Juliane) died before 1218. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 17.  Sarah de Flete (daughter of Richard de Flete and Juliane); died before 1218.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1217

    Notes:

    "He [Thomas de Multon] married, 1stly, possibly circa 1190, Sarah, daughter and heir of Richard de Flete (son of Josce de Flete), by Juliane, who brought him the manor of Fleet, Lincs." [Complete Peerage IX:399-401]

    Children:
    1. 8. Alan de Multon was born in of Moulton near Spalding, Lincolnshire, England; died after 1255.
    2. Juliane de Multon
    3. Lambert de Multon died before 16 Nov 1246.

  3. 18.  Richard de Lucy was born in of Egremont, Cumberland, England (son of Reynold de Lucy and Amabel Fitz William); died in 1213; was buried in St Bees Priory, Cumberland, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Between 1213 and 1214
    • Alternate death: Bef 1214

    Notes:

    "Richard de Lucy, son and heir, in 1200 gave 300 marks for his relief and to have his inheritance in Copeland and Cambs, and for leave to marry where he would; also for the portions of the lands of his mother Amabel held by his aunt Alice, then wife of Robert de Courtenai, and his cousin Hawise, Countess of Aumale. He was one of the magnates who in 1201 refused personal service overseas with King John, and paid 15 marks in lieu thereof. About 1202 he granted a release of 'duretol' in Allerdale. In 1204 he and his wife Ada obtained a charter to them and her heirs of the forestership of Cumberland, as formerly held by her father, without partition to her sister Joan, and of the esnecia of the said Ada. Both he and his wife were benefactors of the monasteries of St. Bees, Wetheral and Calder." [Complete Peerage VIII:248-9]

    Richard married Ada de Morville in 1200. Ada (daughter of Hugh de Morville and Helewise de Stuteville) died after 1230. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 19.  Ada de Morville (daughter of Hugh de Morville and Helewise de Stuteville); died after 1230.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Sep 1241

    Notes:

    "He [Richard de Lucy] married (1200-1204) Ada, eldest daughter and coheir of Hugh de Morvill, forester of Cumberland and lord of the Border barony of Burgh. He died s.p.m., early in 1213, and was bur. in the priory of St. Bees. Before 10 March 1217/18, his widow had married Thomas de Multon, of Multon, near Spalding, who, within a few months of the death of Richard de Lucy, had offered 1,000 marks for the custody and marriage of his daughters and heirs; these two daughter she married to his two sons by a former marriage--vix. Amabel, the elder, to his son Lambert, and Alice, the younger, to his son Alan de Multon. Ada, the relict of Richard de Lucy, was living in 1230." [Complete Peerage VIII:248-9, XIV:456]

    Children:
    1. 9. Alice de Lucy
    2. Amabil de Lucy died before 1242.


Generation: 6

  1. 32.  Thomas de Multon was born in of Moulton near Spalding, Lincolnshire, England (son of Lambert de Multon and (Unknown wife of Lambert de Multon)); died before 1202.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Moulton near Spalding, Lincolnshire, England
    • Alternate birth: of Weston, Lincolnshire, England

    Thomas married Eleanor. Eleanor died before Oct 1199. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 33.  Eleanor died before Oct 1199.
    Children:
    1. 16. Thomas de Multon was born in of Moulton near Spalding, Lincolnshire, England; died in 1240.

  3. 34.  Richard de Flete was born in of Fleet, Lincolnshire, England (son of Josce de Flete).

    Richard married Juliane. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 35.  Juliane
    Children:
    1. 17. Sarah de Flete died before 1218.

  5. 36.  Reynold de Lucy (son of Richard de Lucy and Rohese de Boulogne); died about Jan 1199.

    Notes:

    "Reynold de Lucy, ancestor of this family, was probably a near kinsman of the great justiciar Richard de Luci. He was associated with the county of Cumberland as early as 1158. From 1168 to 1175 he was in charge of the Honour of Peverel of Nottingham; and was keeper of Nottingham Castle when it was taken and burnt by Earl Ferrers in the rebellion of 1174. In 1181 he was in Ivry. In 1187, he escorted Henry II's granddaughter, daughter of Henry the Lion of Saxony, from Southampton to the Continent. He was present at the Coronation of Richard I in September 1189." [Complete Peerage]

    That Reynold / Reginald de Lucy was a son of Richard de Lucy the justiciar has been shown by Rosie Bevan and Peter G. M. Dale in their paper "Reginald de Lucy, Son of Richard de Lucy, King's Justiciar: New Perspectives" (citation details below), in which they transcribe a copy of the original charter of gift by Richard de Lucy to the church of Holy Trinity, London of 20 shillings rent from his vill of Newington, Kent, for the soul of his wife Rose, witnesses to which include "Geoffrey de Lucy and Reginald his brother." This copy was "found in a folio entitled A Collection of Deeds and Seals comprising copies of charters and seals commissioned by the English antiquary, Elias Ashmole", and the authors carefully document its provenance and connection to the original, which probably perished in the fire in Elias Ashmole's rooms in Middle Temple in 1679.

    Bevan and Dale also opine that the 1199 death date given for Reginald / Reynold de Lucy may actually be that of his son Reginald, and that this Reginald may have died earlier.

    Reynold married Amabel Fitz William before 1162. Amabel (daughter of William Fitz Duncan and Alice de Rumilly) died before 1201. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 37.  Amabel Fitz William (daughter of William Fitz Duncan and Alice de Rumilly); died before 1201.

    Notes:

    Lady of Copeland.

    Children:
    1. 18. Richard de Lucy was born in of Egremont, Cumberland, England; died in 1213; was buried in St Bees Priory, Cumberland, England.
    2. Cecily de Lucy died after 1230.
    3. Cecily de Lucy

  7. 38.  Hugh de Morville (son of Simon de Morville and Ada d'Engaine); died in 1202.

    Notes:

    Forester of Cumberland. Not his cousin the Hugh de Morville who was one of the murderers of Thomas Becket. (Wikipedia conflates the two, at least as of 11 Nov 2015.)

    Hugh married Helewise de Stuteville. Helewise (daughter of Robert de Stuteville and Helewise) was born in 1165; died in 1226. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 39.  Helewise de Stuteville was born in 1165 (daughter of Robert de Stuteville and Helewise); died in 1226.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1228

    Children:
    1. 19. Ada de Morville died after 1230.