Hawise de Courtenay

Hawise married John de Neville before 15 Feb 1230. John (son of Hugh de Neville and Joan de Cornhill) was born in of Little Hallingbury, Essex, England; died before 8 Jun 1246; was buried in Waltham Abbey, Essex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Joan de Neville died before 1280.

Hawise married John de Gatesden before 12 Apr 1254. John was born in of Broadwater, Sussex, England; died before 17 Oct 1262. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Margaret de Gatesden died before 4 Jan 1311.

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• Alternate death: Abt 27 Jul 1242, Iwerne, Dorset, England

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"Sheriff of Devonshire, and Castellan of Exeter, 1209; Castellan of Oxford and Sheriff of Oxfordshire, 1215 in which year King John committed to him the coinage of tin in Devonshire and Cornwall. In 1219 he inherited from his mother the great Honour of Okehampton amounting to 92 knight's fees." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

Ancestral Roots places Ford Abbey in Devon. It is now in Dorset, but appears to be quite close to both the Devon and Somerset borders (in fact its mailing address is in Chard, Somerset). Given shifting county borders, AR could well be correct for the time when Sir Robert was buried.

Robert married Mary de Revières between 1210 and 1211. Mary (daughter of William de Revières and Mabel de Meulan) died after 12 Nov 1242. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Aft 15 Jul 1250

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Also called Mary de Vernon.

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• Alternate birth: of Sutton, Berkshire, England
• Alternate death: 1190

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Also called Renaud. Fought in the Second Crusade alongside Louis VII of France.

Reynold married Hawise de Courcy between 1173 and 1178. Hawise (daughter of William de Curcy and Maud d'Avranches) was born about 1157 in of Okehampton, Devon, England; died on 31 Jul 1219; was buried in Ford Abbey, Dorset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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"Daughter and heir of William de Courcy (or ?Geoffrey de Crimes?) by Maud, daughter of Robert d'Avranches." [Royal Ancestry]

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• Alternate death: 8 Sep 1217

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Earl of Devon. Lord of the Isle of Wight. Took part in the coronation of Richard II; a supporter of King John.

Also called William de Vernon, probably because he was raised at Vernon Castle in Normandy, the seat of his grandfather.

William married Mabel de Meulan. Mabel (daughter of Robert de Beaumont and Maud of Cornwall) died after 1 May 1204. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Mabirie; Maud; Mabel de Beaumont; Mabel de Dunstanville.

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• Alternate death: 1189
• Alternate death: 1190

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Also spelled Curtenay, Cortenay. Richardson calls him "of uncertain parentage." CP (III:465, and chart facing IV:318) shows him as a son of Miles de Courtenay, Seigneur de Courtenay, and Ermengarde, dau. of Renaud, Count of Nevers; this Miles a son of Josselin, Seigneur de Courtenay in 1065, and Elizabeth, daughter of Guy de Montlhéry; this Josselin a son of Athon.

An SGM discussion of some of the uncertainties surrounding his ancestry begins here .

Reynold married (Unknown first wife of Reynold de Courtenay). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Called by Douglas Richardson and others a "kinswoman of Eleanor of Aquitaine", but this appears to be less than perfectly established as fact.

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Also spelled de Courcy.

William married Maud d'Avranches about 1155. Maud (daughter of Robert d'Avranches and (Unknown daughter of Gelduin of Dol)) died on 21 Sep 1173. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Baldwin de Redvers. Earl of Devon. "He was one of the first to rebel against King Stephen, and was the only first rank magnate never to accept the new king. He seized Exeter, and was a pirate out of Carisbrooke, but he was driven out of England to Anjou, where he joined the Empress Matilda. She made him Earl of Devon after she established herself in England, probably in early 1141." [Wikipedia]

Founded Quarr Abbey on the Isle of Wight, and the priory of St. James at Exeter.

Baldwin married Adelise. Adelise was buried in Quarr Abbey, Isle of Wight, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography gives this Adelise a death date of 1146, and says that "between 1151 and 1155 Baldwin married as his second wife, Lucy, the widow of Gilbert de Clare, earl of Hertford." But Complete Peerage IV:312, footnote (c), says "The pedigree of the Earls of Devon in the Cartulary of Twynham makes the certainly erroneous statement that Earl Baldwin was father of Earl Richard, of William de Vernon [shown here as William de Revières], of Henry, and of Hawise de Reviers, 'ex Lucia Comitissa uxore sua.'" In other words, the ODNB biographer is clearly assuming that the Twynham cartulary pedigree is correct, and has derived a death date of 1146 for Adelise based on the known birth years of children that the pedigree mistakenly assigns to a nonexistent marriage of Baldwin to Lucy de Clare.

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• Alternate death: Abt 1212

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Count of Meulan.

As a large landholder in both France and Normandy, he was put in a dangerous position by the developing confrontation between Philip Augustus and the kings of England. Eventually this led to his chastisement by both sides and subsequent ruin. He died landless and deposed.

Robert married Maud of Cornwall about 1165. Maud (daughter of Reynold fitz Roy and Mabel fitz William) died between 1220 and 1221. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Maud FitzRoy.