Joan de Somery: NH genealogy

Nielsen Hayden genealogy

- Aft 1273

Generation: 1

Joan de Somery (daughter of Ralph de Somery and Margaret le Gras); died after 1273.

Joan married Thomas de Berkeley about 1217. Thomas (son of Maurice fitz Robert fitz Harding and Alice de Berkeley) was born about 1170; died on 29 Nov 1243; was buried in Abbey Church of St. Augustine, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Children:

Maurice de Berkeley was born in 1218 in of Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; died on 4 Apr 1281; was buried in Abbey Church of St. Augustine, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.

Generation: 2

Ralph de Somery was born in of Dudley, Staffordshire, England (son of John de Somery and Hawise Paynel); died between 29 Sep 1210 and 29 Sep 1211; was buried between 1210 and 1211.

Other Events and Attributes:

Alternate death: Aft 29 Sep 1210
Alternate death: 1211

Notes:

Note that although Dudley town is in Worcestershire, Dudley Castle was across the county border in Staffordshire.

Ralph married Margaret le Gras before 1194. Margaret (daughter of William le Gras and (Unknown) Marshal) died after 14 Jun 1247. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaret le Gras (daughter of William le Gras and (Unknown) Marshal); died after 14 Jun 1247.

Notes:

Also called Margaret Marshal.

Children:

1. Joan de Somery died after 1273.
Roger de Somery was born before 1209 in of Dudley, Staffordshire, England; died on 26 Aug 1273.

Generation: 3

4.	John de Somery was born in of Little Crawley, Buckinghamshire, England; died before 1194. Other Events and Attributes: Alternate death: Aft 1196 John married Hawise Paynel. Hawise (daughter of Ralph Paynel and (Unknown) de Ferrers) died before 1209. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Hawise Paynel (daughter of Ralph Paynel and (Unknown) de Ferrers); died before 1209.

Other Events and Attributes:

Alternate death: Bef 1210

Children:

2. Ralph de Somery was born in of Dudley, Staffordshire, England; died between 29 Sep 1210 and 29 Sep 1211; was buried between 1210 and 1211.

William le Gras was born in of Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England (son of William le Gras); died before 1219.

Notes:

Also called William le Cras; William Crassus.

Seigneur of Soulangy in Normandy. Seneschal of Mortain 1193-4; Seneschal of Normandy 1203-4.

William married (Unknown) Marshal. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

7.
(Unknown) Marshal (daughter of John fitz Gilbert and Sybil de Salisbury).
Children:

3. Margaret le Gras died after 14 Jun 1247.

Generation: 4

10.	Ralph Paynel was born in of Dudley, Worcestershire, England (son of Fulk Paynel and Beatrice Fitz Ansculf); died before 1153. Notes: A supporter of the Empress Maud. Ralph married (Unknown) de Ferrers. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

11.

(Unknown) de Ferrers (daughter of Robert de Ferrers and Hawise).

Notes:

Ancestral Roots calls her "prob. dau. of Robert de Ferrers, d. 1139."

Children:

5. Hawise Paynel died before 1209.

12.
William le Gras
Children:

6. William le Gras was born in of Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England; died before 1219.

14.

John fitz Gilbert was born before 1109 in of Cherhill, Wiltshire, England (son of Gilbert); died before 29 Sep 1165.

Notes:

Also called John the Marshal.

Wikipedia:

"John FitzGilbert the Marshal of the Horses [...] was a minor Anglo-Norman nobleman during the reign of King Stephen, and fought in the 12th century civil war on the side of Empress Matilda. Since at least 1130 and probably earlier, he had been the royal marshal to King Henry I. When Henry died, John FitzGilbert swore for Stephen and was granted the castles of Marlborough and Ludgershall, Wiltshire during this time. Along with Hamstead Marshal, this gave him control of the valley of the River Kennet in Wiltshire. Around 1139, John changed sides and swore for the Empress Matilda. In September 1141, Matilda fled the siege of Winchester and took refuge in the Marshal's castle at Ludgershall. While covering her retreat from Winchester, John Marshal was forced to take refuge at Wherwell Abbey. The attackers set fire to the building, and John lost an eye to dripping lead from the melting roof.

"In 1152, John had a celebrated confrontation with King Stephen, who had besieged him at Newbury Castle. After John had broken an agreement to surrender, Stephen threatened to kill his son, whom John had given as a hostage. John refused, saying he could make more sons, but Stephen apparently took pity on the young boy and did not kill him. The boy grew up to be William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke, a legendary figure in medieval lore, and one of the most powerful men in England."

John married Sybil de Salisbury. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

15.

Sybil de Salisbury (daughter of Walter of Salisbury and Sybil de Chaworth).

Notes:

Also called Sibel d'Evreux.

Died on a 3 June, year unknown.

Children:

7. (Unknown) Marshal
William Marshal was born about 1146; died on 14 May 1219 in Caversham, Oxfordshire, England; was buried in Temple Church, London, England.