Maud de Mandeville

Notes:

Countess of Hereford and Essex. Also caled Maud fitz Geoffrey. But despite being the daughter of two people not named "Mandeville," she was primarily known as Maud de Mandeville. See below.

Douglas Richardson, 29 Oct 2011, post to soc.genealogy.medieval:

Henry de Bohun's wife was known as Maud de Mandeville.

For instances of Maud, Countess of Essex and Hereford, being styled Maud de Mandeville in contemporary records, see Cal. Charters Rolls 1 (1903): 196; Davis, Rotuli Hugonis de Welles Episcopi Lincolniensis 1209 - 1235 3 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 9) (1914): 32; Hassall, Cartulary of St. Mary Clekenwell (Camden 3rd Ser. 71) (1949): 126; Duchy of Lancaster, Descriptive List (with Index) of Cartæ Miscellaneæ, Lists and Indexes, Supplementary Series, No. V, vol. 3 (1964): 85; Mason, Beauchamp Cartulary Charters (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 43) (1980): 187 - 188.

Family/Spouse: Henry de Bohun. Henry (son of Humphrey de Bohun and Margaret of Huntingdon) was born about 1175 in of Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England; died on 1 Jun 1220 in Palestine; was buried in Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Humphrey de Bohun was born after 28 Apr 1199; died on 24 Sep 1275; was buried in Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England.

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Earl of Essex. Chief Justiciar of England from 1198 to his death.

Chief Forester; Sheriff of Northamptonshire 1184-89, 1191-94; Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire 1190-93; Constable of Hertford Castle; Sheriff of Staffordshire 1198; Sheriff of Yorkshire 1198-1200, 1202-4; Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire 1199-1204; Sheriff of Westmorland 1199-1200; Sheriff of Hampshire 1201-4; Sheriff of Shropshire 1201-4.

He was raised in the remarkable household of his uncle, the justiciar of England Ranulph de Glanville, along with, among others, the future king John, and the Walter brothers, nephews of Glanville's wife Bertha de Valognes. Theobald Walter would become chief butler of England and Ireland and the founder of enduring lordships in Munster and Leinster. Hubert Walter would become archbishop of Canterbury, Geoffrey's predecessor as justiciar of England, and then -- after Geoffrey succeeded him as justiciar -- Chancellor of England.

Geoffrey married Beatrice de Say before 25 Jan 1185. Beatrice (daughter of William de Say) died before 19 Apr 1197. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

"[B]uried in Chicksand Priory, but was transferred thence to Shouldham Priory." [Complete Peerage]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 1198

Notes:

Also called Piers de Lutegareshale.

Died as a lay monk at Winchester.

Peter married Maud. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Ancestral Roots calls her "Maud de Mandeville", and Complete Peerage's foldout chart of the earls of Essex (volume 5, between pages 116 and 117) places her in a way that can be, but shouldn't be, read as suggesting that she was a daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex, d. 1144.

Todd A. Farmerie, 11 Jun 2002, soc.genealogy.medieval:

This is the case I had in mind the other day, of a connection almost certainly wrong, probably drawn from other secondary sources assumed to be reliable, while these in turn were derived from the chart of the Earls of Essex in CP. In this chart, Maud is placed under a horizontal line connecting Geoffrey's children, but is not connected to that line. This placement was certainly done solely for the purposes of graphical arrangement, and was never intended to display relationship. However, as far as I know, no one has ever published this "correction".

What has been published are studies of Geoffrey Fitz Piers, son of "Peter de Ludgershall" and "Matilda". These follow in detail the manipulations that Henry II took to ensure that the Mandeville birthright, represented by Beatrice de Say, grand-niece of Geoffrey, Earl of Essex, came to his favorite. This man, Geoffrey Fitz Piers, was specifically said by a contemporary chronicler to be of insubstantial origins. Now if Geoffrey Fitz Piers was maternal grandson of Earl Geoffrey, and nephew of the recently deceased Earl William de Mandeville, then he would neither have been of lowly origins, nor would Henry have had to manipulate the status of the Say heiress in order to justify Geoffrey coming into the Mandeville inheritance -- he would have been the legal heir. Simply put, this connection is wrong on so many levels, that it would require a higher burden of proof than for a connection that does not have so many strikes against it.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aug 1147
• Alternate death: Abt 1155

Notes:

Allegedly killed at the siege of Burwell Castle. But: "Complete Peerage, vol. 11, p. 464, notes that Henry of Huntingdon says he and Geoffrey de Mandeville, earl of Essex, were killed in August 1144, but note (f) summarises evidence that William survived Geoffrey (who did not die until September 1144). Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, p. 681, refers to the same evidence as proving his survival 'by a few years', and dates his death to c. 1155 (although elsewhere she repeats the traditional date)." [Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage]

William married Beatrice de Mandeville. Beatrice (daughter of William I de Mandeville and Margaret fitz Eudes) was born about 1105; died before 19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Saffron, Essex, England; was buried in Walden Abbey, Essex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1100