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Elias IV Giffard
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Name Elias IV Giffard [1, 2] Birth Abt 1170 of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England [3, 4, 5]
Gender Male Death Bef 2 May 1248 [4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] Alternate death 1249 [11, 12] Person ID I10237 Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of JMF, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LD, Ancestor of LDN, Ancestor of LMW, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK, Ancestor of UKL, Ancestor of WPF, Ancestor of XYZ Last Modified 29 Dec 2023
Father Elias III Giffard, b. of Elston in Orcheston St. George, Wiltshire, England d. Bef 29 Sep 1190
Mother (Unknown wife of Elias III Giffard) Family ID F4396 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family 1 Isabel Musard Children + 1. Matilda Giffard + 2. Isabel Giffard Family ID F6 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 26 Dec 2018
Family 2 Alice Mautravers, b. of Lytchett Mautravers, Dorset, England Marriage Bef 1231 [13] Children + 1. John Giffard, b. Abt 1232, of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England d. 28 May 1299 (Age ~ 67 years)
Family ID F208 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 29 Dec 2023
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Notes - "Ivor West stated, in June 2002, that Elis IV and his sister Bertha were the children of Elis III by an unknown wife, not by Maud." [Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage.]
From Complete Peerage V:639:
Sir John Giffard, of Brimpsfield, Badgeworth, Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, and Rockhampton, co. Gloucester, Elston, Orcheston St. George, Sherrington, Ashton, and Broughton Gifford, Wilts, son and heir of Sir Elis Giffard, of Brimpsfield, &c. (who died shortly before 2 May 1248) (c), by his 2nd wife, Alice, sister of Sir John Mautravers, of Lytchet Matravers, Dorset.
(c) In 1221 this Elis stated that "Osbertus Giffard, antecessor suusqui venit ad conquestum Angl' tenuit manerium de Bimesfeld' . . . et post eum Elias flius suus . . . et post eum Elias filius illius Elieet pater suus." At least one generation is here omitted. The Elis living in 1221 was son and heir of Elis III, by Maud, daughter of Morice fitz Robert fitz Hardinge, of Berkeley: which Elis III owed 100 marks 'pro fine terre sue' in 1166 and died before Michaelmas 1190, when William le Mareschal owed 140 marks for the custody of the lands of Elis Giffard. Elis III was son and heir of Elis II (who became a monk in Gloucester Abbey), by Berta (living 1167), sister of Walter de Clifford, of Clifford and Glasbury, and daughter of Richard fitz Ponce. In 1130 Elis II rendered account of 100 marks of silver for the relief of his father's lands, being son and heir of Elis I, by Ala, his wife. Before 1096 Elis I had succeeded his father Osbern Giffard, the Domesday tenant of Brimpsfield, Stoke, Rockhampton, Elston, Orcheston, etc.
- "Ivor West stated, in June 2002, that Elis IV and his sister Bertha were the children of Elis III by an unknown wife, not by Maud." [Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage.]
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