Nielsen Hayden genealogy

(Unknown de Grey)

Male


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  • Name (Unknown de Grey)   [1
    Gender Male 
    Person ID I6054  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AW, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of FF, Ancestor of FW, Ancestor of JMF, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LD
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 

    Children 
    +1. Hawise de Grey
     2. John de Grey, Bishop of Norwich   d. 1214
    Family ID F2223  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 18 Jan 2016 

  • Notes 
    • John Watson, 2 Dec 2010 post to SGM:

      From memory (which gets worse over the years). Robert de Grey, holder of Rotherfield in 1166, had two or possibly three younger brothers, Anketil (II), William and probably Thomas. I would think that the more likely candidates for the father of John de Grey bishop of Norwich and his sister Hawise are either William or Thomas. Hawise married a Mr. somebody-or-other and had at least three children, Robert, Walter (Abp. York) and Eve (married Wm. Brito). Her children took their mother's name of de Grey - probably to stop the family name dying out - her two sons, Robert and Walter being the only male heirs of Anketil (I) de Grey who held Rotherfield at Domesday. Anketil (II)'s heir was his granddaughter Eve, daughter of his son John, who married Ralph Murdac. In this scenario - Robert and Walter de Grey would be the first cousins of Eve Murdac.

      Now if we could only work out who Mr. somebody-or-other was, the picture would be complete.

  • Sources 
    1. [S984] John P. Ravilious, 1 Dec 2010, post to soc.genealogy.medieval.