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Agnes de Ponthieu

Female - Aft 1100

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  • Name Agnes de Ponthieu  [1
    Gender Female 
    Death Aft 1100  [2
    Alternate death Between 1105 and 1106  [3
    Person ID I8833  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of AW, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of JMF, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LDN, Ancestor of LMW, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK, Ancestor of UKL, Ancestor of WPF
    Last Modified 5 Feb 2023 

    Father Guy I   d. 13 Oct 1100 
    Mother Ada 
    Family ID F6210  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Robert II de Bellême,   b. 1057, Sées, Orne, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1129 (Age > 73 years) 
    Marriage Bef 9 Sep 1087  [4
    • Date of arrangement. According to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, the actual marriage may not have taken place until about 1092.
    +1. Guillaume III Talvas,   b. Abt 1093, of Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 30 Jun 1171 (Age ~ 78 years)
    Family ID F5915  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 5 Feb 2023 

  • Notes 
    • Countess of Ponthieu.

      "Agnes, who was sole heir to her father's comté, was treated cruelly by her husband, who kept her shut up for a long time in his castle at Bellême. She escaped by the help of a faithful chamberlain, took refuge with Adela Countess of Blois and retired to Ponthieu; whence she never returned to her husband." [Complete Peerage]

      "[D]espite the lurid story of marital collapse given in Orderic Vitalis's ecclesiastical history (Ordericus Vitalis, Eccl. hist., 4.300), there are no signs of discord between Robert and his father-in-law, Count Gui, with whom he judged a plea in the ducal court at Rouen in 1093. Robert witnessed a charter given by Gui, apparently on his deathbed, and it may be that Agnes returned to Ponthieu in the later 1090s to act on her father's behalf because of his advanced age. She probably took her son with her since he does not attest Robert's acts until 1106. Only one act of Agnes as countess of Ponthieu is known and she must have died in 1105 or 1106, when Robert ceased to use the title count of Ponthieu." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

  • Sources 
    1. [S6805] Peter Stewart, 22 Jan 2023, post to soc.genealogy.medieval.

    2. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.

    3. [S76] The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, 2004-ongoing.

    4. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant ed. Vicary Gibbs, H. A. Doubleday, Duncan Warrand, Howard de Walden, Geoffrey H. White and R. S. Lea. 2nd edition. 14 volumes (1-13, but volume 12 spanned two books), London, The St. Catherine Press, 1910-1959. Volume 14, "Addenda & Corrigenda," ed. Peter W. Hammond, Gloucestershire, Sutton Publishing, 1998.