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William IV de Ros

Male Abt 1288 - 1343  (~ 55 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  William IV de Ros was born about 1288 in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died on 3 Feb 1343; was buried in Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 16 Feb 1343
    • Alternate death: Abt 1 Aug 1359, Brittany, France

    Notes:

    "William de Ros, 2nd Lord (Baron) de Ros of Helmsley, Sheriff Yorks 1326, one of the two Barons, representing the entire class of Barons or magnates of the realm, who at Kenilworth Jan 1326/7 informed Edward II of his deposition; member of Council of Regency Feb 1326/7." [Burke's Peerage]

    "He was sum. to Parl. 20 Nov 1317 till 21 Feb. 1339.40." [Complete Peerage]

    William married Margery de Badlesmere before 25 Nov 1316. Margery (daughter of Bartholomew de Badlesmere and Margaret de Clare) was born about 1306; died on 18 Oct 1363. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Elizabeth de Roos  Descendancy chart to this point died on 24 May 1380.
    2. 3. Maud de Ros  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1331 in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died on 9 Dec 1388.
    3. 4. Thomas de Ros  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 13 Jan 1337 in Stoke Albany, Northamptonshire, England; died on 8 Jun 1384 in Uffington, Lincolnshire, England.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Elizabeth de Roos Descendancy chart to this point (1.William1) died on 24 May 1380.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 24 May 1382

    Elizabeth married William la Zouche before 16 Jul 1334. William (son of Eudes la Zouche and Joan Inge) was born in 1321 in of Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England; died on 23 Apr 1382; was buried in Biddlesden Abbey, Buckinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Margery la Zouche  Descendancy chart to this point died on 18 Oct 1391; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

  2. 3.  Maud de Ros Descendancy chart to this point (1.William1) was born about 1331 in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died on 9 Dec 1388.

    Notes:

    CP (XII/2, p. 441) calls her "probably da. of William (de Ros), 2nd Lord Ros (of Helmsley)." In this post to SGM, dated 6 Feb 2018, Douglas Richardson assembled a large collection of evidence that she was in fact a a daughter of William de Ros.

    Family/Spouse: John de Welle. John (son of Adam de Welle and Margaret Bardolf) was born on 23 Aug 1334 in Bonthorpe, Willoughby, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 23 Aug 1334 in St. Helen, Willoughby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 11 Oct 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Anne Welles  Descendancy chart to this point died before 3 Dec 1399.
    2. 7. Margery Welles  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1350 in of Bonthorpe, Lincolnshire, England; died on 29 May 1422.
    3. 8. John Welles  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 20 Apr 1352 in Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 26 Aug 1421.

  3. 4.  Thomas de Ros Descendancy chart to this point (1.William1) was born on 13 Jan 1337 in Stoke Albany, Northamptonshire, England; died on 8 Jun 1384 in Uffington, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 9 Jun 1384, Uffington, Lincolnshire, England

    Notes:

    Also called Thomas of Helmsley.

    Summoned to Parliament by writs 1362-1383.

    Thomas married Beatrice de Stafford after 1 Jan 1359. Beatrice (daughter of Ralph de Stafford and Margaret de Audley) died on 13 Apr 1415. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. Margaret de Ros  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died before 1415.
    2. 10. Elizabeth de Ros  Descendancy chart to this point died in Mar 1424.


Generation: 3

  1. 5.  Margery la Zouche Descendancy chart to this point (2.Elizabeth2, 1.William1) died on 18 Oct 1391; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

    Margery married Robert de Willoughby before 1 Oct 1369. Robert (son of John de Willoughby and Cecily de Ufford) was born between 1348 and 1350 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 9 Aug 1396; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Thomas Willoughby  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died before 20 Aug 1417.
    2. 12. William Willoughby  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1370 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 4 Dec 1409 in Edgefield, Norfolk, England; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

  2. 6.  Anne Welles Descendancy chart to this point (3.Maud2, 1.William1) died before 3 Dec 1399.

    Anne married James le Boteler before 17 Jun 1386. James (son of James le Boteler and Elizabeth Darcy) was born about 1360; died on 3 Sep 1405 in Gowran, Kilkenney, Ireland; was buried in Gowran, Kilkenney, Ireland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. James le Boteler  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1392; died on 22 Aug 1452 in Ardee, Louth, Ireland; was buried in St. Mary's Abbey, Dublin, Ireland.

  3. 7.  Margery Welles Descendancy chart to this point (3.Maud2, 1.William1) was born about 1350 in of Bonthorpe, Lincolnshire, England; died on 29 May 1422.

    Margery married Stephen le Scrope before 15 Dec 1376. Stephen (son of Henry le Scrope and Joan) was born about 1345 in of Masham, Bedale, Yorkshire, England; died on 25 Jan 1406; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Maud le Scrope  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1418.
    2. 15. John le Scrope  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1388 in of Upsal, South Kilvington, Yorkshire, England; died on 15 Nov 1455; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England.

  4. 8.  John Welles Descendancy chart to this point (3.Maud2, 1.William1) was born on 20 Apr 1352 in Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 26 Aug 1421.

    Notes:

    Or Welle. 5th Lord Welles. He was a lifelong retainer of John of Gaunt, whom he accompanied on the march from Calais to Bordeaux in 1373. He also took part in Richard II's 1385 expedition to Scotland. He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 20 Jan 1376 to 26 Feb 1421.

    John married Eleanor Mowbray before 1368. Eleanor (daughter of John Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave) was born before 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Eleanor Welles  Descendancy chart to this point died after 7 Nov 1458.
    2. 17. Eudes Welles  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1 Feb 1408.

  5. 9.  Margaret de Ros Descendancy chart to this point (4.Thomas2, 1.William1) was born in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died before 1415.

    Margaret married Reynold Grey after 25 Nov 1378. Reynold (son of Reynold de Grey and Eleanor le Strange) was born about 1362 in of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 30 Sep 1440. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Eleanor Grey  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1434.
    2. 19. John Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 27 Aug 1429.
    3. 20. Margaret Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1399; died after May 1426.

  6. 10.  Elizabeth de Ros Descendancy chart to this point (4.Thomas2, 1.William1) died in Mar 1424.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas de Clifford. Thomas (son of Roger de Clifford and Maud de Beauchamp) was born about 1363; died on 18 Aug 1391. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. John Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1389; died on 13 Mar 1422 in Mieux, France.


Generation: 4

  1. 11.  Thomas Willoughby Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margery3, 2.Elizabeth2, 1.William1) was born in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died before 20 Aug 1417.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Lincolnshire 1403-04. Knight of the shire for Lincolnshire. Alderman of the guilds of both St. George and Corpus Christi, Boston.

    Thomas married Elizabeth Neville before 27 May 1396. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 22. John Willoughby  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1400 in of Kirton-in-Holand, Lincolnshire, England; died on 24 Feb 1437.

  2. 12.  William Willoughby Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margery3, 2.Elizabeth2, 1.William1) was born about 1370 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 4 Dec 1409 in Edgefield, Norfolk, England; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

    Notes:

    King's councillor. Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 30 Nov 1396 to 26 Oct 1409. "He was present in the Tower, 29 Sep 1399, at the abdication of Richard II, to whose imprisonment he agreed, 23 Oct. following; and in the Parliament which met in January 1401, when the lands of the Earls of Kent, Huntingdon, and Salisbury were declared forfeit." [Complete Peerage XII/2, p. 662.]

    Family/Spouse: Joan Holand. Joan (daughter of Thomas de Holland and Alice Fitz Alan) died on 12 Apr 1434. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    William married Lucy le Strange after 3 Jan 1383 in Middle, Shropshire, England. Lucy (daughter of Roger le Strange and Aline de Arundel) died after 28 Apr 1398; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. Margery Willoughby  Descendancy chart to this point died before 22 Oct 1452.
    2. 24. Thomas Willoughby  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Parham, Suffolk, England; died before 1 Jul 1439.

  3. 13.  James le Boteler Descendancy chart to this point (6.Anne3, 3.Maud2, 1.William1) was born in 1392; died on 22 Aug 1452 in Ardee, Louth, Ireland; was buried in St. Mary's Abbey, Dublin, Ireland.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 28 May 1393

    Notes:

    4th Earl of Ormond. Lieutenant of Ireland. Very strongly Gaelicized, he spoke Irish and was the first Anglo-Irish lord to appoint a brehon. A learned man, he was the patron of the Book of the White Earl, an Irish literary and religious miscellany.

    His political career was marked by a lengthy feud with the Talbot family. Twice, in 1422 and 1447, leading Talbots accused him of treason; he was exonerated on both occasions, although in the second instance both sides were rebuked for "disrupting the good governance of Ireland." Eventually the marriage of his daughter Elizabeth to a Talbot established better relations.

    James married Joan Beauchamp before 29 Aug 1413. Joan (daughter of William Beauchamp and Joan Arundel) died on 3 Aug 1430; was buried in Mercer's Chapel, Cheapside, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. Thomas Butler  Descendancy chart to this point died on 3 Aug 1515; was buried in Mercer's Chapel, Cheapside, London, England.
    2. 26. Elizabeth Butler  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 21 Dec 1421; died on 8 Sep 1473; was buried in Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England.

  4. 14.  Maud le Scrope Descendancy chart to this point (7.Margery3, 3.Maud2, 1.William1) died after 1418.

    Notes:

    Died as a Minoress nun.

    Maud married Baldwin de Freville before 1394. Baldwin (son of Baldwin de Freville and Joyce Botetourte) was born before 20 Nov 1368 in Weoley Castle, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; was christened on 20 Nov 1368 in Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Oct 1400. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Joyce Freville  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1418.
    2. 28. Elizabeth Freville  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1394.
    3. 29. Margaret Freville  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1400 and 1401; died on 8 Jan 1493.

  5. 15.  John le Scrope Descendancy chart to this point (7.Margery3, 3.Maud2, 1.William1) was born about 1388 in of Upsal, South Kilvington, Yorkshire, England; died on 15 Nov 1455; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England.

    Notes:

    4th Baron Scrope of Masham. Lord Treasurer of England.

    John married Elizabeth Chaworth before 24 Aug 1418. Elizabeth (daughter of Thomas Chaworth and Nichole Braybrooke) died before 12 Mar 1467. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 30. Elizabeth Scrope  Descendancy chart to this point died on 10 May 1504.
    2. 31. Eleanor Scrope  Descendancy chart to this point

  6. 16.  Eleanor Welles Descendancy chart to this point (8.John3, 3.Maud2, 1.William1) died after 7 Nov 1458.

    Eleanor married Hugh Poynings before 29 Sep 1406. Hugh (son of Thomas Poynings and Joan le Strange) was born in of Chawton, Hampshire, England; died on 26 Dec 1426. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 32. Constance Poynings  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1409; died before 18 Nov 1442.

    Eleanor married Godfrey Hilton before Jun 1433. Godfrey (son of Robert de Hilton and Isabel) was born in of Swine, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire, England; died on 5 Aug 1459. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 17.  Eudes Welles Descendancy chart to this point (8.John3, 3.Maud2, 1.William1) died after 1 Feb 1408.

    Notes:

    Also called Ives Welles. He took part in the rebellion of 1405, for which he was fined 100 marks and pardoned 7 Aug 1405.

    Richardson's Royal Ancestry, published in 2013 (citation details below), has him dying before 26 Jul 1417, but in a 2021 post to SGM (citation details below), Richardson says that he "died testate at an unknown date." He cannot have died as late as 26 Jul 1417, since his widow Maud Greystoke married before 6 Oct 1414 (date of fine), as her second husband, Walter Fauconberge.

    Eudes married Maud Greystoke about 1395. Maud (daughter of Ralph de Greystoke and Katherine Clifford) was born about 1380; died after 1437. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 33. Lionel Welles  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1406 in of Belleau, Lincolnshire, England; died on 29 Mar 1461 in Towton, Yorkshire, England; was buried in Methley, Yorkshire, England.

  8. 18.  Eleanor Grey Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret3, 4.Thomas2, 1.William1) died before 1434.

    Eleanor married Robert Poynings before 22 Oct 1397. Robert (son of Richard de Poynings and Isabel Fitz Payn) was born on 3 Dec 1382 in Okeford Fitzpaine, Dorset, England; died on 2 Oct 1446. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. Richard Poynings  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Poynings, Sussex, England; died on 10 Jun 1429 in near OrlĂ©ans, France.

  9. 19.  John Grey Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret3, 4.Thomas2, 1.William1) was born in of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 27 Aug 1429.

    John married Constance Holand before 1410. Constance (daughter of John Holand and Elizabeth of Lancaster) died on 12 Nov 1437; was buried in St. Katherine by the Tower, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 35. Edmund Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 26 Oct 1416; died on 22 May 1490.

  10. 20.  Margaret Grey Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret3, 4.Thomas2, 1.William1) was born about 1399; died after May 1426.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1426

    Margaret married William Bonville after 12 Dec 1414. William (son of John Bonville and Elizabeth Fitz Roger) was born on 12 Aug 1391 in Shute, Devon, England; died on 18 Feb 1461 in St. Albans Abbey, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 36. Elizabeth Bonville  Descendancy chart to this point died on 14 Feb 1491.
    2. 37. William Bonville  Descendancy chart to this point died on 31 Dec 1460 in Wakefield, Yorkshire, England.

  11. 21.  John Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (10.Elizabeth3, 4.Thomas2, 1.William1) was born about 1389; died on 13 Mar 1422 in Mieux, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 1388

    Notes:

    Killed at the Siege of Mieux.

    John married Elizabeth Percy between Aug 1403 and 5 Nov 1412. Elizabeth (daughter of Henry "Hotspur" Percy and Elizabeth Mortimer) died on 26 Oct 1436; was buried in Staindrop, Durham, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 38. Mary Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was buried in Friars Minor, Ipswich, Suffolk, England.
    2. 39. Thomas Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 Mar 1414; died on 22 May 1455 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in St. Albans Abbey, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England.