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John de Stanley

Male - Aft 1313


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John de Stanley was born in of Stanley, Staffordshire, England; died after 1313.

    Notes:

    Hereditary forester of Wirral, Cheshire. Ormerod gives, as his wife, "Mabel, dau. of sir James de Hausket of Storeton Parva, knt." CP says "He is said to have m. Mabel, da. of Sir James Hawkset of Stourton Parva." According to Wikitree, the book The House of Stanley by Peter Edmund Stanley (Edinburgh: The Pentland Press, 1998) argues against this and suggests an alternative. We have not seen this book, but the Wikitree page for this John Stanley summarizes its argument as follows:

    "[T]his cannot be, as from 1300-50 Stourton Parva was held by heirs of Sir Phillip de Bamville (grandfather of John) and that there was no family surnamed Hauskett associated with Stourton Parva or Little Parva during this period.

    "The author further states that a charter dated 13 Feb 1310 (no further identification given) given at Sefton in Lancashire endows John with the manors of Stanleigh and Over Elkeston in Staffordshire to be held by the said John and his wife Emma. The witnesses were: Sir Robert de Lathom of Lathom and Knowsley, Sir Ralph Bykerstaffe (Sheriff of Lancashire), Alan Norris of Formby and Speke, Thomas de Osbaldeston, William Blundel and Roger de Haverburgh.

    "Stanley suggests Emma may have been a Molyneux because of the location of the Charter, but ultimately decides she was a daughter of Sir Robert de Lathom, because when John Stanley's grandson Sir John Stanley married Isabel de Lathom in 1385, a papal dispensation was obtained owing to the prohibitive degree of consanguinity 'third cousins once removed' (Ormerod)."

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. William de Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Stanley, Staffordshire, England; died in 1397.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William de Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born in of Stanley, Staffordshire, England; died in 1397.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Storeton, Cheshire, England
    • Alternate death: Jun 1398

    Notes:

    Hereditary forester of Wirral, Cheshire. Justice in Eyre for Cheshire.

    Family/Spouse: Alice. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. John Stanley, Titular King of Man  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1350 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 6 Jan 1414 in Ardee, Louth, Ireland; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.
    2. 4. William de Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1368; died about 1428.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  John Stanley, Titular King of Man Descendancy chart to this point (2.William2, 1.John1) was born about 1350 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 6 Jan 1414 in Ardee, Louth, Ireland; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Stanley, Staffordshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 28 Jan 1414, Ardee, Louth, Ireland

    Notes:

    "Deputy in Ireland for Robert de Vere, Marquess of Dublin, 1386-1387/8; Controller of the Household, 4 Mar 1389; Justiciary of Ireland, 1 Aug 1389-before 29 Aug 1391; Justice of Chester, 28 Apr 1394; Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, 10 Dec 1399-Apr/July 1401; appointed Knight of the Garter, about 1405. In 1405, Henry IV granted the Isle of Man to Sir John Stanley, which he ruled as a petty king until his death, and which passed on to his descendants, each ruling as King of Man and the Isles until the time of Thomas, 2nd Earl of Derby who changed the title to Lord. King's Lieutenant of Ireland, 8 June 1413-6 Jan 1414." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    From Wikipedia:

    Stanley's father was Master-Forester of the Forest of Wirral, notorious for his repressive activities. Both Stanley and his older brother, William (who succeeded their father as Master-Forester), were involved in criminal cases which charged them with a forced entry in 1369 and in the murder of Thomas Clotton in 1376.

    Conviction for the murder of Clotton resulted in Stanley being declared an outlaw. However, he was already distinguishing himself in military service in the French wars, and he was pardoned in 1378 at the insistence of his commander, Sir Thomas Trivet.

    In 1385 he married Isabel Lathom, heir to the extensive lands of Sir Thomas Lathom (great-great-grandson of Humphrey VI de Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford) in south-west Lancashire. The marriage took place despite the opposition of John of Gaunt and gave Stanley the sort of wealth and financial security he could never have hoped to have had as the younger son in his own family.[1] Stanley had four sons, John, Henry, Thomas and Ralph as well as two daughters.

    The year 1386 saw his first appointment in Ireland as deputy to Robert de Vere, Duke of Ireland. This occurred because of the insurrection created by the friction between Sir Philip de Courtenay, the then English Lieutenant of Ireland, and his appointed governor James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond. Stanley led an expedition to Ireland on behalf of de Vere and King Richard II to quell it. He was accompanied by Bishop Alexander de Balscot of Meath and Sir Robert Crull. Butler joined them upon their arrival in Ireland. Because of the success of the expedition, Stanley was appointed to the position of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Alexander to chancellor, Crull to treasurer, and Butler to his old position as governor. In 1389, Richard II appointed him justiciar of Ireland, a post he held until 1391. He was heavily involved in Richard's first expedition to Ireland in 1394–1395.

    Throughout the 1390s he was involved in placating possible rebellion in Cheshire. Between 1396 and 1398 he served as captain of Roxburgh. Stanley took part in Richard II's expedition to Ireland in 1399. However, on his return to England, Stanley, who had long proved adept at political manoeuvring, turned his back on Richard and submitted to Henry IV of England.

    Stanley's fortunes were equally good under the Lancastrians. He was granted lordships in the Welsh marches, and served a term as lieutenant of Ireland. In 1403 he was made steward of the household of Henry, Prince of Wales (later Henry V). Unlike many of the Cheshire gentry, he took the side of the king in the rebellion of the Percys. He was wounded in the throat at the Battle of Shrewsbury.

    In 1405 he was granted the tenure of the Isle of Man, which had been confiscated from the rebellious Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland. In this period he also became steward of the king's household, and was elected a Knight of the Garter. In 1413 King Henry V of England sent him to serve once more as lieutenant of Ireland. He died at Ardee, County Louth, in 1414, after being satirised by the O'Higgins of Meath for despoiling the lands and raiding the cows of Niall O'Higgins. He lasted but five weeks, according to the Four Masters, before succumbing "to the virulence of the lampoons". His body was returned to Lathom and buried at Burscough Priory near Ormskirk. This was the second such Poet's Miracle performed by the O'Higgins.

    John married Isabel Lathom before 1385. Isabel (daughter of Thomas de Lathom and Joan de Venables) died on 26 Oct 1414. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Elford, Staffordshire, England; died on 13 May 1463; was buried in Elford, Staffordshire, England.
    2. 6. John Stanley, Titular King of Man  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1386 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Nov 1437.

  2. 4.  William de Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (2.William2, 1.John1) was born in 1368; died about 1428.

    Notes:

    He was in Ireland on the king's service in the first year of the reign of Henry IV (1399-1400), and pardoned for his part in the Percy rebellion 1403-04.

    William married Margery de Hooton between 1387 and 1387. Margery (daughter of William de Hoton and Katherine Torond) died before 1 Sep 1427. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. William Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Stanley, Staffordshire, England; died before 1424.


Generation: 4

  1. 5.  Thomas Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (3.John3, 2.William2, 1.John1) was born in of Elford, Staffordshire, England; died on 13 May 1463; was buried in Elford, Staffordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire, 1427-28. Sheriff of Staffordshire, 1433-34, 1438-39. Knight of the shire for Staffordshire.

    Thomas married Maud Arderne before 1 May 1413. Maud (daughter of John Arderne and Margaret Pilkington) was born on 2 Jul 1396; died between 1430 and 1432. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Anne Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point

  2. 6.  John Stanley, Titular King of Man Descendancy chart to this point (3.John3, 2.William2, 1.John1) was born about 1386 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Nov 1437.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1 Sep 1427
    • Alternate death: Dec 1437

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Lancashire, 1413 and 1414. Justice of Chester. Sheriff of Anglesey. Steward of the household of Henry IV.

    Fought at Agincourt with eight men-at-arms and 24 archers.

    Quoted in Wikipedia, A. W. Moore (1853-1909), Speaker of the House of Keys, the lower house of the Manx legislature, said of him: "He may justly be considered an enlightened and upright ruler, much in advance of his time. He caused the ancient laws and constitutions of his little kingdom to be reduced to writing, he humbled the overbearing ecclesiastical authorities, and, after he had practically concentrated all power into his own hands, he wisely conceded a representative form of government."

    John married Elizabeth Harington before 1405. Elizabeth (daughter of Nicholas Harington and Isabel English) died after 22 Mar 1445. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1406 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 11 Feb 1459; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

  3. 7.  William Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (4.William3, 2.William2, 1.John1) was born in of Stanley, Staffordshire, England; died before 1424.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Hooton in Wirral, Cheshire, England
    • Alternate death: Aft 1 Sep 1425

    Notes:

    At the battle of Agincourt, and knighted for his services there. Earlier, he was pardoned for his part in the Percy rebellion.

    William married Blanche Arderne between 1402 and 1403. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. William Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1405 in of Hooton in Wirral, Cheshire, England; died after 6 Feb 1456.
    2. 11. Isabel Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1410.