Nielsen Hayden genealogy
Guillaume III Gouët
Bef 1080 - Aft 1140 (> 62 years)1. Guillaume III Gouët was born before 1080; died after 1140. Notes:
Seigneur de Montmirail and Alluyes.
Guillaume married Mabel of England before 1125. Mabel (daughter of Henry I, King of England and (Unknown mistress or mistresses of Henry I)) died after 1125. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 2. Eustachie died before 1164.
- 3. Guillaume IV Gouët de Montmirail died in 1169 in Palestine.
Generation: 2
2. Eustachie (1.Guillaume1) died before 1164. Notes:
Todd A. Farmerie, 9 Jun 2002, post to SGM:
Eustachie was suggested by Charles Evans to be illegitimate daughter of Eustace, son of King Stephen. This conclusion was based on onomastics and kinship. Eustachie is specifically stated to have been a kinswoman of King Henry II, and is found in several modern sources as Eustachie of Champagne. Eustachie being the female form of Eustace, Evans argued that the only time that Eustace/Eustachie was associated with Champagne was following the marriage of King Stephen to Matilda of Boulogne, daughter of Eustace III of Boulogne. He then chose Eustace, Stephen's son (and Henry II's second cousin) to be father of Eustachie. (It is unclear why Eustace was preferable to Evans over his brother William.) That, anyway, is Evans' suggestion.
The problem with this is that I have traced back her being called Eustachie "of Champagne", and cannot find anything contemporary that calls her this. Where does it come from, then? (One possibility is that this somehow derived from a misunderstanding regarding the nickname of her husband, Anselme "Campdaveine.") If "de Champagne" is non-contemporary, then the primary reason for attaching her to the Champagne/Boulogne family disappears.
It is in this context that we can view the suggestion of Kathleen Thompson, (apparently again based on onomastics and kinship), that Eustachie was daughter of William Gouet (III) by his wife Mabel. This would make her, on her father's side, granddaughter of Eustachie, wife of William Gouet (II), explaining her given name, and on her mother's side, granddaughter, through an illegitimate daughter Mabel, of King Henry I, making her (half-) first cousin of King Henry II. Thus this solution accounts for both the kinship and onomastics.
The take-home message here is that Evans based his conclusion on scant evidence, at least some of which appears to have been flawed. There is an alternative that explains the existing material at least as well, and doesn't require the invention of an illegitimate child of Eustace IV of Boulogne, otherwise thought to have d.s.p.Family/Spouse: Alselm Campdavaine. Alselm (son of Hugh III Campdavaine) died in 1164. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 4. Beatrice Campdavaine was born about 1160 in of St. Pol, France; died after 1204.
3. Guillaume IV Gouët de Montmirail (1.Guillaume1) died in 1169 in Palestine. Other Events and Attributes:
- Alternate death: Abt 1170
Notes:
Baron of Perche-Gouët. Seigneur of Montmirail. Died on crusade.
Guillaume married Isabelle of Blois between 1150 and 1155. Isabelle (daughter of Thibaut IV of Blois, Champagne, and Troyes and Mathilde of Carinthia) was born in 1130. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
Generation: 3
4. Beatrice Campdavaine (2.Eustachie2, 1.Guillaume1) was born about 1160 in of St. Pol, France; died after 1204. Notes:
Also called Beatrice Candavaine; Beatrice of St. Pol.
Beatrice married Jean I of Ponthieu before 4 Dec 1170. Jean (son of Guy II of Ponthieu and Ida) was born about 1140; died on 30 Jun 1191 in Acre, Palestine. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 6. Marguerite de Ponthieu
- 7. William II Talvas was born about 1171; died on 4 Oct 1221.
5. Mathilde Gouët (3.Guillaume2, 1.Guillaume1) Notes:
Also called Mabille.
Family/Spouse: Hervé III de Donzy. Hervé (son of Geoffroi IV de Donzy) died after 1188. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 8. Adèle de Donzy
- 9. Hervé IV de Donzy was born about 1173; died on 22 Jan 1223.
Generation: 4
6. Marguerite de Ponthieu (4.Beatrice3, 2.Eustachie2, 1.Guillaume1) Notes:
Mentioned 1209.
Family/Spouse: Enguerrand de Picquigny. Enguerrand (son of Guermond de Picquigny and Flandrine d'Amiens) died in 1224. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 10. Alix de Picquigny
- 11. Gérard II de Picquigny died about 1248.
7. William II Talvas (4.Beatrice3, 2.Eustachie2, 1.Guillaume1) was born about 1171; died on 4 Oct 1221. Other Events and Attributes:
- Alternate birth: 1179
- Alternate birth: Aft 1178
- Alternate death: 6 Oct 1221
Notes:
Count of Ponthieu & Montreuil.
William married Alix of France on 20 Aug 1195 in Meudon, Hauts-de-Seine, France. Alix (daughter of Louis VII, King of France and Constance of Castile, Queen Consort of France) was born on 4 Oct 1160; died on 18 Jul 1218. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 12. Marie of Ponthieu was born before 17 Apr 1199; died in Sep 1250 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardy, France.
8. Adèle de Donzy (5.Mathilde3, 3.Guillaume2, 1.Guillaume1) Notes:
Lady of Coulanges. Mentioned 1202.
Family/Spouse: Geoffroi V de Châteaudun. Geoffroi (son of Hugues V de Châteaudun and Jeanne de Preuilly) died after Nov 1218. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 13. Geoffroi VI de Châteaudun was born in 1218; died on 6 Feb 1250.
9. Hervé IV de Donzy (5.Mathilde3, 3.Guillaume2, 1.Guillaume1) was born about 1173; died on 22 Jan 1223. Other Events and Attributes:
- Alternate death: 23 Jan 1223
Notes:
Lord of Donzy.
Hervé married Mahaut de Courtenay in Oct 1199. Mahaut (daughter of Peter II of Courtenay, Emperor of Constantinople and Agnes de Nevers) was born about 1188; died on 29 Jul 1257. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 14. Agnès de Donzy died in 1225.