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March 24, 2003

Get real news
Posted by Teresa at 10:38 PM *

Live in the States? Feel like your standard newsfeed is giving you garbage?

You’re right. Here are some better sources:

The easiest way to do it is to go to The Agonist and just keep hitting the reload button every five minutes. Newshound Sean Paul Kelly has turned his weblog into all war news, all the time, and he’s constantly updating it. Important note: He’s getting too many hits for his bandwidth, so please read The Agonist at one of its mirror sites instead: 1, 2, and the stripped-down text-only 3.

If you’re only going to read one online newspaper, you want The Guardian. It has intelligent, full-bandwidth coverage, good analysis, and an easy-to-use website. Additional helpful features: (1.) They run unobtrusive sidebar lists of links to related stories. (2.) Media Guardian, which keeps track of the media wars. (3.) Their running tally of claims and counterclaims—made, disproved, confirmed—organized by topic. (4.) Jargon Watch, which keeps track of terms like mouseholing, granularity, and kinetic targeting.

An underappreciated fact about Kos of The Daily Kos, until now primarily known for his expert grasp of electoral mechanics and politics, is that he’s a Gulf War veteran. Yup, it’s true: Kos knows sandstorms from shinola. Since the war started, The Daily Kos has been incisive and useful—not that it wasn’t already. Don’t miss the comments threads, where Kos and his readers (some of whom obviously have a military background) get into chewy technical discussions about what exactly is going on in Iraq.

Begin addendum:BruceR’s Flit is another informative and very military weblog. An additional point of interest: it’s Canadian. Does good maps, too. End addendum.

The mysterious Salam Pax continues to post sporadically from Baghdad in his weblog, Where Is Raed?. There’s been some discussion about his authenticity. I’ll say here what I said in BoingBoing: We don’t know everything about who Salam Pax is, what he knows, what he does, et cetera; but for what my ear is worth, that weblog is a real person talking about real things. Or, as Eve Tushnet put it:
If either our side or theirs is faking a gay anti-war anti-Saddam weblog, either they are much smarter than I thought, or the CIA is no longer screening for current drug use.
Q. But isn’t The Guardian sort of lefty? And isn’t Salam Pax an Iraqi? A. Yeah so what who cares. Enough already with the cotton candy.
Comments on Get real news:
#1 ::: Stefan Jones ::: (view all by) ::: March 26, 2003, 05:10 PM:

Amen on The Agonist.

#2 ::: David Moles ::: (view all by) ::: March 26, 2003, 05:26 PM:

The Guardian also has by far the best sports coverage.

#3 ::: Ter ::: (view all by) ::: March 26, 2003, 07:56 PM:

I visit The Guardian for book reviews and literary quizzes.

The Blog of a Bookslut kept sending me there, but now I'm finding much concurrence elsewhere on The Guardian as a news source.

#4 ::: Derryl Murphy ::: (view all by) ::: March 26, 2003, 10:03 PM:

I just blogged this site:

Iraq conflict news sources from every angle, done up by a pair of librarians. Excellent way to find other sources.

#5 ::: Bruce Arthurs ::: (view all by) ::: March 26, 2003, 10:06 PM:

I spend far too much time on, a site that collects anti-Bush editorials and commentaries from newspapers, magazines and other websites.

One of them, back in October 2002, was what may have been the first piece of Iraqi War II science fiction, "The Base" by Chris Floyd of Moscow Times. Pretty chilling piece of work, I think. Check it out at:

or its original Moscow Times URL:

#6 ::: James Veitch ::: (view all by) ::: March 27, 2003, 03:31 AM:

To those people on Delphi forums, on Sk8 Jesus there is a continuing war thread, with posts primarily from Keith and Marcia, who read all the news everywhere. It's a news only thread, with commentary going elsewhere, and they manage to give the highlights without repeating themselves, usually.
I believe it's worth a look, if you're in the neighborhood.

#7 ::: Richard Brandt ::: (view all by) ::: March 27, 2003, 09:36 AM:

As I was resting in Albuquerque early this week, the PBS station playing in the lounge was running the BBC news. Oddly, I heard all manner of news I hadn't been hearing on the PBS broadcasts all the way across Arizona and New Mexico. For one thing, it was the first time I heard of stiff resistance in Nazaria as opposed to our triumphant capture of bridges across the Tigris and Euphrates. More tellingly, it was the first time I heard the U.S. indignation over whether the Iraqis were observing the Geneva Convention contrasted with our detention of captured fighters in Guantanamo where we refuse to consider them as prisoners of war and accordingly deny them the protections of the Geneva Convention.

#8 ::: Simon ::: (view all by) ::: March 27, 2003, 01:31 PM:

The Guardian is a priceless treasure, especially for pieces like this. Onion, look to your laurels!

#9 ::: Teresa Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: March 27, 2003, 01:50 PM:

Simon, that is glorious.

#10 ::: Quaigon-scotch ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 11:13 PM:

The Independent is also good (UK) particularly the stuff written by Fisk. He's British but he's lived in the middle east for more than 20 years and knows what he's talking about. And he's not owned by any network.


#11 ::: Quaigon-scotch ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 11:13 PM:

The Independent is also good (UK) particularly the stuff written by Fisk. He's British but he's lived in the middle east for more than 20 years and knows what he's talking about. And he's not owned by any network.


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