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March 2, 2005

Help us help you
Posted by Patrick at 02:01 PM * 28 comments

(Patrick here, cross-posting from Electrolite.) Like every other blog that runs ads brokered by, we’d be much obliged if our readers would take their annual survey. Doing so helps Henry Copeland and his crew refine their pitch to potential advertisers, thus ultimately leading (by the frictionless operation of the all-knowing market) to more ads, more Nielsen Hayden blogalicious goodness, and the ultimate merging of humanity with the Overmind. Don’t be the holdout.

Also, for question #16, please answer “Electrolite & Making Light” (with the ampersand) since we’re a package deal and that’s how we’re listed in the system. Much obliged.

Comments on Help us help you:
#1 ::: Tom Whitmore ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 02:19 PM:

The Invisible Hand in action!

#2 ::: gaukler ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 02:40 PM:

I'd take the survey if the page would load- all I get is an "Updating" animation. I'm using Firefox for Beos.

#3 ::: Greg Ioannou ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 02:42 PM:

I can't get it to load using Explorer either.

#4 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 02:58 PM:

Hmm, I had no problem. I did have a problem answering some of their questions...I have no idea what a podcast even is, which I'm sure makes me hopelessly Behind The Curve.

#5 ::: Julia Jones ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 03:10 PM:

Windows Mozilla, and I'm getting the Updating graphic. For about five minutes now, I think...

#6 ::: Susan Lurx ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 03:43 PM:

I went there from somewhere else (so the somewhere else got named as the ref'ing blog) but Making Light was right up there in my top 10 list.

All typed in Anglo-Saxon, o'course ... ;-)

#7 ::: David Dyer-Bennet ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 04:39 PM:

Interestingly, the survey worked just fine with Opera at 15:38 CST. It had previously failed with Firefox (both on Window 2000).

Xopher, I've never heard of a "podcast" either. There is, of course, a Wikipedia article on it.

#8 ::: Marsden ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 04:41 PM:

Done. After a year of reading your free content, it's the least I could do.

#9 ::: gaukler ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 06:56 PM:

I upgraded to a newer Firefox (Beos), and did the survey with no problems (other than having to ignore the political question, that doesn't apply to Canadians).

#10 ::: Zara Baxter ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 07:36 PM:

It worked fine with Opera, and like gaukler, I couldn't answer the political question.

I had to add in a fair swathe of subscriptions, too, since I subscribe to a lot of non-US publications.

Would have been nice to have space for comments on the survey, or an email address for same.

#11 ::: Brad DeLong ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 08:47 PM:

Now how many times are we supposed to fill out this survey? I mean, I did it once for TalkingPointsMemo already. Do I have to fill it again?

#12 ::: Sal ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 08:59 PM:

Worked find for Firefox 1.0.1.

I too skipped the political question. I'm a Republican for various reasons, one of which is to vote in Republican primaries when the choice is between a nutter and an absolute nutter. I'd rather not have someone using that party affiliation as a datapoint while sorting their data. Lessee, 43% of these folks are Green and 43% are Dems and 6% are P&F and lookee here! a Republican! and she reads People Magazine too! But she doesn't read Soldier of Fortune, that means ...

Xopher, a podcast is an audio file (think .MP3) that can be downloaded to your iPod to give you audio access to a talkshow, or friends who threw a houseparty, or a conference you missed. podcast aggregators will be the wave of the future, some say. Dave Winer -- he of Scripting News, which he describes as "one of the earliest and currently the longest-running weblog on the Internet" -- and Adam Curry are the minds behind podcasting. If you pop /"dave winer" podcast/ into your search engine of choice, you'll learn more than you need to know.

#13 ::: Claude Muncey ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 09:06 PM:

Tell the Overmind that I'm ready for my closeup.

#14 ::: Lucy Kemnitzer ::: (view all by) ::: March 02, 2005, 09:42 PM:

Sal, are you still a Republican? I don't ask this to be disparaging but because the way you were talking the last time I saw you in person it sounded like you were ready to make the break.

(and your nose must be itching -- I found that last Gene Stratton Porter book this very day and couldn't remember how to get in touch, so . . . let's?)

I had trouble with the political question, because my self-chosen label wasn't on the list, but I just chose something I thought they might be able to do something with.

And Xopher, I don't know what a podcast is either, but it sounds threatening.

#15 ::: Mark D. ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 12:35 AM:

They need another entry or two in the news media question: online media sites like msn? And news aggregators, like the wonderful News My Way.

#16 ::: Larry Brennan ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 12:58 AM:

Since everyone is going on about browsers here - this may just be a good place to point out an article about vulnerabilities in Firefox.

Or, in short, update your browser. And keep your OS current. And use some sort of firewall, be it software or hardware.

#17 ::: Giacomo ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 03:50 AM:

Sal, I hate being a net-history Nazi, but this terrible meme seeing Dave Winer and Adam Curry as "the minds behind podcasting" has to stop.
Dave Winer is the Bill Gates of syndication standards -- remember RSS? Nestcape created it, Winer just stole the idea and remarketed it to the masses. He's doing the same with podcasting, see this myth-debunking post by Lucas Gonze (the creator of Adam Curry has done a great job in popularizing the podcasting concept, Dave Winer is just jumping on the bandwagon like he always does.

#18 ::: Epacris ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 04:00 AM:

What "Industry" (Q5) do y'all think publishing comes under?

#19 ::: Irina ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 05:34 AM:

Is it any use taking the survey if you're not in the US? I don't even *know* most of those magazines!

#20 ::: Patrick Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 07:17 AM:

"Is it any use taking the survey if you're not in the US? I don't even *know* most of those magazines!"

Well, it's helpful to us if lots of our readers do, whether they're inside the US or not.

I point out that the one print publication with an ad currently up on isn't from the US, either. So obviously isn't just selling to a domestic market.

#21 ::: Alex Cohen ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 09:50 AM:

Would it help you figure out the meaning of podcasting if you knew that the derivation of the word is a mashup of "iPod" and "broadcasting"?

#22 ::: Lisa Spangenberg ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 10:35 AM:

While Winer is a whiner, he really does share credit for RSS with Netscape. He was one of the joint authors of the RFC and RFPs.

#23 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 11:42 AM:

Re podcasts, that's more or less what I figured (using exactly the reasoning you suggest, Alex). I wasn't sure though, because of 'pod publishing' and like that.

#24 ::: Jonathan Vos Post ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 12:57 PM:

I had my son fill out the form. He was embarassed that he doesn't follow podcasts, as many of his college classmates do.

Wikipedia on Podcasting. This is, to date, what seems the definitive definition, properly citing the inventors and earliest usages.

#25 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 02:02 PM:

Rats. I just realized that I didn't list Fafblog! as one of my top 10.

#26 ::: Bob Oldendorf ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 03:22 PM:

When I hear the term "podcasting", my first thought is still of a hybrid of Invasion of the Body Snatchers crossed with Fred Hoyle's A for Andromeda.

It'll be a while before I think of "podcasting" as a novel way of loading audio files onto one of those new-fangled .mp3 players.

Sad, but that's what comes from reading too much SF.

#27 ::: Sal ::: (view all by) ::: March 03, 2005, 11:34 PM:

Sal, are you still a Republican? I don't ask this to be disparaging but because the way you were talking the last time I saw you in person it sounded like you were ready to make the break.

Ah, yes. That was a while back ... and yes, I'm still havering on about it. Do I do more good gnawing away from within, espousing those issues that are important to me, or am I rotting my soul by affiliation with some of the nutjobs? Should I abandon like-minded souls who are also gnawing away or should I leave? What if we all left at once? Would that shake up the Republican Party enough to make some changes if their numbers fell when alzasudden all like-minded souls dropped the party affiliation?

Got me.

Political labels can get a little um. odd. If you meld the the beach and the farmworker and the University, toss in solid good sense and lefty-commie-pinko-socialist-labor sensibilities, throw in a heart as big as Texas, what do you get? Someone I'd never see at a Republican fund raiser, but someone I'd rather hang out with than some of the folks I would see there. Maybe the fact I wouldn't cop to the affiliation means something.

We're in the process of moving and have thousands of books boxed up and stashed in a small space next to a guy who does skylights and down from a guy who does gutters. I'll need to find a children's fiction box with space for just one more book ...

#28 ::: Marilee ::: (view all by) ::: March 04, 2005, 12:18 AM:

Speaking of blogs, Jim Kelly, in his current Asimov's column, lists 40 SF-related blogs, including those of our host & hostess as well as many familiar names:

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