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Re: Sarah Angevine Loomis
By Pete, July 14, 2006 at 04:49:11
In reply to: Sarah Angevine Loomis
Kenneth W. Titt 7/01/05
I'm replying here to a message that's a year old, but I myself have been interested in the question of Ezra Pound's descent from Loomises, and allegedly from the founding parents of the Loomis Gang, and this is what I've found in trying to research the question through online sources.
In E. Fuller Torrey's book The Roots of Treason: Ezra Pound and the Secret of Saint Elizabeth's (1984), he writes this about Pound and his grandmother's relation to the Loomis Gang:
"In a biographical note written when he was 35, Pound said that 'an old lady whom I met in Oneida County said they (the Loomis family) were horse-thieves, charming people, in fact the nicest people in the country, but horse-thieves, never, I think, brought to book.'" Torrey goes on to speculate that Pound was probably told this when he was attending Hamilton College in Oneida County, NY, not far from the place where the old Loomis Gang had been based.
That biographical note is IDd in a footnote as coming from a 1923 work by Pound titled Indiscretions. On the same page of Torrey's book on which this passage is quoted, he writes, after describing some of the gang's activities, that "Sarah (Pound's grandmother) and one of her sisters had already left to marry Thaddeus Pound and his brother."
According to various internet genealogy sources, the brother of Pound's grandfather Thaddeus Pound who also married a girl named Loomis was Albert Elijah Pound. His wife is ID'd on those sources as 'Sarah Elizabeth Loomis,' born Oct 27, 1832, and died July 1886. The wife of Thaddeus Pound is listed as either 'Sarah Angevine Loomis' or with the middle name 'Angeline,' but never in the ones I've seen with a birthdate.
There are, however, entries on the Familysearch site which ID a Sarah Elizabeth Loomis born and died on those same dates, the specific day for the birthdate, as the daughter of Nathaniel Swetland Loomis and Elizabeth Ennis. This Nathaniel is shown as born in 1813, and as the son of Jeremiah Loomis b. 1780 and Sarah Highby, from Westmoreland, Oneida County, NY. Jeremiah's father is listed as Jabez Loomis b. 1745 in Tolland, CT, and his mother as Judith Swetland.
These Loomises are also descendants of Joseph Loomis and Mary White, the emigrant founders of this American Loomis family - but the relation of this line and that of the ancestors of the Loomises of the 'gang' only converges 'way back with Joseph and Mary White Loomis themselves.
Dr. Torrey, in his book about Pound, doesn't give a source for his assertion that Pound's grandmother named Loomis was the sister of the Loomis girl who allegedly married Pound's grandfather's brother; and the two sisters allegedly being named 'Sarah' with differing middle names seems to be a problem - but if we assume that these Loomis girls were sisters who married two Pound brothers, and that the birthdate serves to ID the girl married to Albert Elijah Pound and her ancestry, then the notion that Pound was descended from the founders of the 'gang' appears to be mistaken.
I haven't seen Pound's work titled Indiscretions, but if all he says about the Loomises is what's quoted in Torrey's book, then he was probably told that story when he was going to school in Oneida County just because the Loomis Gang were the FAMOUS Loomises in that place. However, a lot of people from Connecticut removed to central NY state after the Revolutionary War, including, according to what I find on genealogy sites, a lot of people named Loomis who were descendants of Joseph and Mary White Loomis. Pound's forebears might well have been some Loomises who were really just distant cousins of the notorious 'gang,' and if this information is correct, that's the case.
Even so, I thought it might be of interest to folks here that the great and terrible Ezra Pound, apparently, is still a descendant of the early NE settler Loomis family. Indeed, it's a fact that his name at birth was Ezra Loomis Pound, though he later changed his middle name to Weston, which was his mother's maiden name.
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