Godfrey de Lucy

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Bishop of Winchester.

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Or de Luci; de Lusci; de Luscy. Called "The Loyal."

Sheriff of Essex, 1154; Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire, 1155-1157; Chief Justice of England under Henry II.

Died as a cloister member, having resigned his office after Easter 1179.

Richard married Rohese de Boulogne between 1130 and 1135. Rohese (daughter of William of Boulogne) was born in of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died before 30 May 1151; was buried in Holy Trinity Church, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef 1153

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"Richard de Lucy's only known wife was Rose, who died sometime before Queen Maud's death in 1152. Queen Maud and her son and heir, Eustace, witnessed a notification by Richard that he had, 'granted to the canons of Holy Trinity, London, in frank almoin, 20s. yearly rent from Niweton [Newington] for the soul of Roheis his wife, who is buried in their church...'" ["A Rose by Any Other Name: Another Daughter of Richard de Lucy," citation details below. Notwithstanding this, King Stephen's wife Maud actually died in 1151.]

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• Alternate birth: 1078, Normandy, France

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"Kinswoman and co-heiress of William Goth." [Royal Ancestry]

"Sister of William Goth. The latter was an allodial lord along the River Sarthe, temp. William I." [Henry James Young, citation details below]

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• Alternate death: Abt 1159

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• Alternate death: 1105

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Also called Geoffrey of Boulogne, and his descendants called themselves "of Boulogne". Although Kim Anderson's and Richard Joscelyne's "The Parentage of Geoffrey fitz Eustace (c. 1045-1105)" (Foundations 10:98, 2018) makes a plausible case that he was a legitimate son of Eustache II by his first wife, Godgifu, the consensus appears to remain that he was a son of Eustache by an undocumented mistress. Notably, Eustache II gave his own name to his first son by his second wife, Ida of Verdun, who was definitely younger than this Geoffrey.

Peter Stewart notes (SGM, 9 Feb 2023) that "Geoffrey of Carshalton named his son William (despite the child's maternal grandfather being also a Geoffrey), and William's son & heir was named Faramus. This pattern of extraneous names does not suggest nostalgia for a denied paternal heritage."

Was Godfrey the crusader the same Geoffrey that married Beatrice de Mandeville? This claim pops up in many places; people doing personal genealogical research are most likely to encounter it in David H. Kelley's essay in Ancestral Roots, eighth edition (line 158A). The short answer: No.

Both were sons of Eustace II, albeit by different mothers. The claim that they were a single person doesn't hold up. Todd A. Farmerie: "Murray's analysis takes the sole argument in favor of this connection, that the names Geoffrey and Godfrey were, at the time, synonymous, and shows it to be false. This leaves us with two men with the same father but different names, ending up in different places and conflicting family histories -- one with documented children, the other remembered as unmarried and childless -- without the slightest reason to suggest that they were anything but siblings other than personal preference." Additionally, Boulogne and Bouillon are completely different places. Godfrey/Geoffrey's Boulogne is the one on the north coast of France, now called Boulogne-sur-Mer. The region surrounding it, Boulonnais, became an earldom in the ninth century and was later brought to the crown of England by Maud of Boulogne's marriage to Stephen of Blois.

Geoffrey married Beatrice de Mandeville before 1084. Beatrice (daughter of Geoffrey I de Mandeville and Adeliza de Balts) was born in of Rycote, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef 1089
• Alternate death: 1093

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Count of Boulogne. Also known as Eustace aux Gernons (Eustace with the mustaches).

Fought at Hastings. Wikipedia: "In the following year, probably because he was dissatisfied with his share of the spoil, he assisted the Kentishmen in an attempt to seize Dover Castle. The conspiracy failed, and Eustace was sentenced to forfeit his English fiefs. Subsequently he was reconciled to the Conqueror, who restored a portion of the confiscated lands."

Peter Stewart notes that the Worcester (D) version of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles mentions Eustache II visiting England in 1051, and refers to him as having in the past been married to the sister of Edward the Confessor, i.e., his first wife Godgifu. He also argues that the year 1057 widely given for Eustache's marriage to Ida is "specious":

This comes from a forced interpretation by Jacques Malbrancq in the 17th century of an inscription in verse that had disappeared before his time from the collegiate church of Notre-Dame at Lens, stating that canons had been established there "Anno milleno ter deno bis minus uno". The plain interpretation of this is the year 1000+(3x10)-(1x2) = 1028, but Malbrancq took it to mean 1000+((3x10)x2)-1 = 1059. He thought that Ida had instituted the canons two years after marrying Eustace, but he overlooked their charter dated 1070 stating that this had been done by their predecessors, i.e. by his father Eustace I and his mother Mathilde of Louvain.

Eustache married (Unknown mistress of Eustache II of Boulogne). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Abt 1100

Geoffrey married Adeliza de Balts. Adeliza died before 1100; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Athelaise.

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• Alternate death: 1047

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Count of Boulogne.

He and his wife Mathilde of Louvain were fifth cousins through common descent from Aelfred "the Great" (848-899), king of Wessex, and fifth cousins once removed through common descent from Charles the Bald (823-877), Holy Roman Emperor, grandson of Charlemagne.

Eustace married Mathilde of Louvain. Mathilde (daughter of Lambert I "The Bearded" and Gerberga of Lorraine) was born about 993. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1004, Louvain, Brabant, Belgium

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Also called Mahaut de Louvain; Maud de Leuven; Mathilda of Lens.

She and her husband Eustace I of Boulogne were fifth cousins through common descent from Aelfred "the Great" (848-899), king of Wessex, and fifth cousins once removed through common descent from Charles the Bald (823-877), Holy Roman Emperor, grandson of Charlemagne.