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Robert Constable

Male - Aft 1272


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Robert Constable was born in of Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England (son of William Constable and Juliana d'Eiville); died after 1272.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Between 1270 and 1272
    • Alternate death: Bef 1272

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. William Constable was born in of Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England; died after 26 Apr 1319; was buried in Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William Constable was born in of Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England (son of Robert Constable and Eufemia Tyson).

    William married Juliana d'Eiville. Juliana (daughter of Robert d'Eiville and Juliana de Montfort) died after 1267. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Juliana d'Eiville (daughter of Robert d'Eiville and Juliana de Montfort); died after 1267.
    Children:
    1. 1. Robert Constable was born in of Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England; died after 1272.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert Constable was born in of Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England (son of Robert Constable); died before 1208.

    Notes:



    From Rosie Bevan, 27 May 2007, post to soc.genealogy.medieval, as corrected by Rosie Bevan, 27 May 2007, post to soc.genealogy.medieval:

    [EYC = Early Yorkshire Charters, as cited below; SGM = soc.genealogy.medieval; RB = Rosie Bevan]

    Alan has presented some very significant evidence for the resolution of the conflicting pedigree of the Constable family in EYC XII ff p. 145, which gave Robert I Constable married to an unnamed daughter of of William Tison, and his son, Robert II, as married to "Eufemia dau. & coh. of Maud sister and coh.of William and mag. Roger Arundel". It is clear from the quitclaim that they are co-parcenors in Holme.

    When looking at the question back in 2003, because of Clay's placement, I was unable to resolve the problem that John de Beauveur was an heir of Roger Arundel, yet there was no explanation for his Arundel connection. Clay comments on the problem in a footnote on p. Exc. e Rot. Fin. i, 66. [RB -- the fine which John Ravilious presented to SGM in 2003]. The reference shows that John de Beauveur had a share in the Arundel lands with the Constables, with whom he also shared the Tison coheirship. This and other references are given in EYC XI, pp. 198-200 to show John de Beauveur's interest in the Arundel coheirship. The reason for this, however, is obscure. If, as appears, he was a first cousin of Robert Constable, William's father, they may have married sisters; John's wife in that case being Alice, Eufemia's sister; but there is no evidence for this, and, indeed, Maud, John's wife in whose right he held lands in Winksley (p. 10 above), would have to have been a second wife. On the other hand, it is difficult to see how John could have acquired an interest in the Arundel coheirship by inheritance. With regard to Alice, Eufemia's sister, a consideration of the Tison chronology now suggests that it is impossible that she was Alice, the wife of William Tison, as was tentatively suggested in EYC XI p.199.

    Clay's conclusion stems from a charter of John de Beauveur, which Robert Constable of Holm attests [EYC XII p. 69]. He assumed that John Beauveur was a first cousin of Robert Constable. In fact they were nephew and uncle, the latter witnessing by right of his wife. The subsequent skewing of the generations has resulted in Clay's account of the early Constables in which he confuses both Roberts. Eufemia, wife of Robert II Constable was coheiress to both the Tison and Arundel fees, with her sister Maud, mother of John de Beauveur. Robert I Constable was not married to a Tison heiress at all. In fact I think the question as to whether or not Robert I and Robert II are the same individual needs to be resolved.

    I have used the details from Clay's Tison pedigree on EYC XII p. 5 to present the following solution:

    1.Gilbert Tison d, 1115-1130
    2. Adam Tison d.1154-1159
    + Emma
    3. William Tison holding 15 knight's fees of Roger de Mowbray
    in 1166, d.bef Mich. 1180
    + Alice
    4. Eufemia Tison
    + Robert Constable II of Flamborough occ 1185
    5. William Constable, co-parcenor in Holme
    4. Constance Tison d.s.p.
    + Ralph de Beauveur, steward of Roger Mowbray occ. 1185
    4. Maud Tison
    + Robert de Beauveur occ 1185
    5. Sir John de Beauveur, co-parcenor in Holme, d. 1246-51
    + Maud (m. secondly William de Weighton)
    6. Robert de Beauveur
    5. Robert
    5. Thomas
    4. Agnes Tison d.s.p.
    + Hugh son of Malger de Steeton

    On the deaths of two of the Tison heiresses, which occurred during the
    lifetime of Maud, (she refers to her moiety of land by hereditary
    right in Holm), the fee was afterwards divided between the Constables
    and the Beauveurs.

    On the strength of the above, the following is an amended pedigree of
    the heirs of Roger de Arundel.

    1. William de Arundel fl 1175
    2. William de Arundel d.s.p.
    2. Mag. Roger de Arundel d.s.p.c.1210
    2. Cecily de Arundel
    + Jordan Lenveise
    3.Joan de Lenveise
    + John de Birkin d.1230 - he married secondly Agnes de
    Flammaville,
    (widow of Wm Percy of Kildale d.1203)
    4.Thomas de Birkin d.s.p.
    4. Isabel Birkin d.c.1252
    + Robert de Everingham d.1246. Had issue
    3.Denise de Lenveise
    +(1)William de Glanville d.s.p.
    +(2) Hubert de Anesty d.1210 (He married secondly Maud de
    Cameys)
    4.Nicholas de Anesty b.c.1193
    5.Denise de Anesty d.1304
    + (1)Walter Langton d.1234
    + (2)Warin de Munchensy d.1255
    6.William de Munchensy d 1287
    + Amice
    7.Denise de Munchensy d.s.p.1313
    + (3)Robert Butyller
    2.Maud de Arundel
    + NN
    3.Alice
    + William Tison
    4.Eufemia Tison
    + Robert Constable of Flamborough d.bef 1208
    5.William the Constable of Flamborough
    + Juliana had issue
    4.Maud Tison
    + Robert de Beauveur
    5. John de Beauveur, had issue
    2.Agnes de Arundel
    +Robert de Hothum
    3.Thomas de Hothum
    4.Robert de Hothum

    Robert married Eufemia Tyson. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Eufemia Tyson (daughter of William Tyson and Alice).
    Children:
    1. 2. William Constable was born in of Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England.

  3. 6.  Robert d'Eiville was born in of Egmanton, Nottinghamshire, England (son of Robert d'Eiville); died before 2 Apr 1201.

    Notes:

    Constable of Axholme; benefactor of Byland and Rievaulx abbeys and St. Peter's hospital, York.

    Robert married Juliana de Montfort before 1170. Juliana (daughter of Thurstan de Montfort and Juliana de Murdac) died after Aug 1202. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Juliana de Montfort (daughter of Thurstan de Montfort and Juliana de Murdac); died after Aug 1202.
    Children:
    1. 3. Juliana d'Eiville died after 1267.
    2. John d'Eiville was born in of Egmanton, Nottinghamshire, England; died after Jun 1228.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Robert Constable was born in of Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England; died before 1186.

    Notes:

    As Rosie Bevan pointed out in 2007 (citation details below), it is unclear that the Robert Constable who was alive in 1185 is a separate individual from the one, here given as his son, who died in 1208.

    Children:
    1. 4. Robert Constable was born in of Flamborough, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England; died before 1208.

  2. 10.  William Tyson (son of Adam Tyson and Emma); died before 29 Sep 1180.

    William married Alice. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 11.  Alice (daughter of (Unknown husband of Maud de Arundel) and Maud de Arundel).
    Children:
    1. 5. Eufemia Tyson
    2. Constance Tyson died before 1180.
    3. Maud Tyson
    4. Agnes Tyson died before 1180.

  4. 12.  Robert d'Eiville
    Children:
    1. 6. Robert d'Eiville was born in of Egmanton, Nottinghamshire, England; died before 2 Apr 1201.

  5. 14.  Thurstan de Montfort was born in of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England (son of Thurstan de Mundford); died about 1170.

    Notes:

    A supporter of the Empress Matilda against Stephen.

    Complete Peerage IX:120, in a footnote about his brother Robert, says "Robert was probably the son of Thurstan de Mundford, who, as one of the barons of Henry, Earl of Warwick, attested the Earl's charter to Abingdon in the days of Abbot Reynold, who d. 1097 (Chron. Abingdon, Rolls Ser., vol. ii, p. 21). This Thurstan was very possibly of the house of Montfort of Montfort-sur-Risle, but the connection has not been proved."

    Thurstan married Juliana de Murdac. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 15.  Juliana de Murdac (daughter of Geoffrey Murdac).
    Children:
    1. Henry de Montfort was born in of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England; died about 1199.
    2. 7. Juliana de Montfort died after Aug 1202.


Generation: 5

  1. 20.  Adam TysonAdam Tyson (son of Gilbert Tyson); died between 1154 and 1159.

    Adam married Emma. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 21.  Emma
    Children:
    1. 10. William Tyson died before 29 Sep 1180.
    2. Malger Tyson
    3. Avice Tyson

  3. 22.  (Unknown husband of Maud de Arundel)

    (Unknown married Maud de Arundel. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 23.  Maud de Arundel (daughter of William de Arundel).
    Children:
    1. 11. Alice

  5. 28.  Thurstan de Mundford

    Notes:

    A baron of Henry, earl of Warwick. Possibly a grandson of Hugh II de Montfort of Montfort-sur-Risle and his wife Alice de Beaufort. See note on this Thurstan's son Thurstan.

    Children:
    1. 14. Thurstan de Montfort was born in of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England; died about 1170.

  6. 30.  Geoffrey Murdac was born in of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England (son of Ralph Murdac); died after 1130.
    Children:
    1. 15. Juliana de Murdac


Generation: 6

  1. 40.  Gilbert Tyson was born between 1115 and 1130.

    Notes:

    He was a tenant in chief at Domesday in the East and West Ridings of Yorkshire and in Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire.

    Much has been said about him that was later shown to be incorrect; for instance, it is unlikely that he was a lord of Alnwick. He was also probably not descended from the house of Tesson in Calvados, Normandy.

    Children:
    1. 20. Adam Tyson died between 1154 and 1159.

  2. 46.  William de Arundel

    Notes:

    Living 1175.

    Children:
    1. 23. Maud de Arundel
    2. Roger de Arundel died about 1210.
    3. Cecily de Arundel
    4. William de Arundel

  3. 60.  Ralph Murdac (son of Richard fitz Meurdrac); died after 1130.
    Children:
    1. Ralph Murdac was born in of Broughton, Oxfordshire, England; died after 1166.
    2. 30. Geoffrey Murdac was born in of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England; died after 1130.