Alice de Mohun

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 1285

Alice married Robert V de Beauchamp before 16 Dec 1246. Robert (son of Robert IV de Beauchamp and Juliane Marshal) was born before 1224 in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died before 25 Oct 1263. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. John de Beauchamp was born before 1247; died on 24 Oct 1283 in Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; was buried on 31 Oct 1283 in Stoke-under-Hamden, Somerset, England.
2. Humphrey de Beauchamp was born before Mar 1253 in of Ryme Intrinseca, Dorset, England; died before 9 Feb 1317.
3. Mary de Beauchamp was born about 1258; died after 1309.

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Justice of Common Pleas; Chief Justice of the Forests South of Trent.

"His wardship was granted in 1213 to Henry FitzCount, and on Henry's death in 1227 to William Briwere, his own grandfather. He had livery by 1227, when he was made a knight. He accompanied the King on his French expedition in 1230, and to Wales in 123i. He was in debt to the Jews in 1234, and made a justice of the Common Pleas. In 1242 he was to have two good ships provided for him to follow the King across the sea to Gascony, and in April of that year was a Chief Justice of the Forests South of Trent. He served in the expedition into Wales in 1245, and in 1246 refounded the abbey of Newenham at Axminster. He was also a benefactor of the houses of Bruton, Barlinch and Cleeve. In 1252 he was appointed keeper of the royal forests South of Trent, with 100 marks per annum for maintenance, and keeper during pleasure of Sauvey Castle, co. Leicester. In 1253 he had grants of free warren at Dunster, Whichford and Ottery, and licence to hunt hare, fox, cat and badger in Somerset and one other county." [Complete Peerage]

Reynold married Hawise fitz Geoffrey after 8 Nov 1227. Hawise (daughter of Geoffrey fitz Peter and Aveline de Clare) died before 1243. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 8 Aug 1247

Notes:

Also called Hawise Fitz Piers. Not a daughter of William Fleming of Ottery; this appears to be a case where the latter-day revisionist speculation was proved wrong by the discovery of further records that re-established the original model of her parentage.

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• Alternate birth: 1185, of Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England

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"He lost his estates in Normandy in 1204 for adhering to King John. He took a prominent part in the invasion of France in 1206 and accompanied King John to Ireland in 1210." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

Reynold married Alice de Briwere. Alice (daughter of William de Briwerre and Beatrice de Vaux) died after 1239. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Earl of Essex. Chief Justiciar of England from 1198 to his death.

Chief Forester; Sheriff of Northamptonshire 1184-89, 1191-94; Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire 1190-93; Constable of Hertford Castle; Sheriff of Staffordshire 1198; Sheriff of Yorkshire 1198-1200, 1202-4; Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire 1199-1204; Sheriff of Westmorland 1199-1200; Sheriff of Hampshire 1201-4; Sheriff of Shropshire 1201-4.

He was raised in the remarkable household of his uncle, the justiciar of England Ranulph de Glanville, along with, among others, the future king John, and the Walter brothers, nephews of Glanville's wife Bertha de Valognes. Theobald Walter would become chief butler of England and Ireland and the founder of enduring lordships in Munster and Leinster. Hubert Walter would become archbishop of Canterbury, Geoffrey's predecessor as justiciar of England, and then -- after Geoffrey succeeded him as justiciar -- Chancellor of England.

Geoffrey married Aveline de Clare before 29 May 1205. Aveline (daughter of Roger de Clare and Maud de St. Hilary) was born about 1172; died before 4 Jun 1225. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Between 22 Nov 1220 and 4 Jun 1225
• Alternate death: Bef 1225

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"William de Mohun died in October 1193, perhaps abroad." [Royal Ancestry, also "The Trowbridge Ancestry", citation details below.] Some sources say Jerusalem. Contemporary records show that he made a pilgrimage there but do not clarify where he died.

William married Lucy. Lucy died after 1201. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1145, of King's Somborne, Ashley, Hampshire, England

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Also called Briwere, Briguerre. Justice of the King's Bench for both kings Richard I and John. Sheriff of Devon, 1179-89, 1200; of Berkshire 1190-94; of Oxfordshire 1190-4, 1201-2; of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire, 1194-1200, 1203-4; of Hampshire 1199-1201, 1207-9, 1212, 1214-15; of Cornwall 1202-4; of Somerset and Dorset 1207-9; of Wiltshire 1207-9; of Sussex 1208-9; of Gloucestershire 1220. Hereditary forester of Bere Ashley Forest.

"In 1223 he opposed the confirmation of the Magna Carta and the charter of the forest, declaring that they were 'extorted by violence.'" [Royal Ancestry]

"When King Richard left England in 1189, he appointed Briwere to be one of the four justices to whom he committed the charge of the kingdom. Called one of King John's evil counselors who care for nothing but to please their master. One of the favorite counsellors of Henry III." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

Buried in the habit of a Cistercian monk before the high altar in Dunkeswell Abbey, Devon.

William married Beatrice de Vaux. Beatrice (daughter of Hubert de Vaux and Grace) was born about 1149; died on 24 Mar 1217; was buried in Mottisfont Priory, Hampshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Bef 1156

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Also called Beatrice de Valle, Beatrice de Vallibus. Former mistress of Reynold Fitz Roy, earl of Cornwall (d. 1 Jul 1175), but The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz says that she "may have been identical to his wife."

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 1198

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Also called Piers de Lutegareshale.

Died as a lay monk at Winchester.

Peter married Maud. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Ancestral Roots calls her "Maud de Mandeville", and Complete Peerage's foldout chart of the earls of Essex (volume 5, between pages 116 and 117) places her in a way that can be, but shouldn't be, read as suggesting that she was a daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex, d. 1144.

Todd A. Farmerie, 11 Jun 2002, soc.genealogy.medieval:

This is the case I had in mind the other day, of a connection almost certainly wrong, probably drawn from other secondary sources assumed to be reliable, while these in turn were derived from the chart of the Earls of Essex in CP. In this chart, Maud is placed under a horizontal line connecting Geoffrey's children, but is not connected to that line. This placement was certainly done solely for the purposes of graphical arrangement, and was never intended to display relationship. However, as far as I know, no one has ever published this "correction".

What has been published are studies of Geoffrey Fitz Piers, son of "Peter de Ludgershall" and "Matilda". These follow in detail the manipulations that Henry II took to ensure that the Mandeville birthright, represented by Beatrice de Say, grand-niece of Geoffrey, Earl of Essex, came to his favorite. This man, Geoffrey Fitz Piers, was specifically said by a contemporary chronicler to be of insubstantial origins. Now if Geoffrey Fitz Piers was maternal grandson of Earl Geoffrey, and nephew of the recently deceased Earl William de Mandeville, then he would neither have been of lowly origins, nor would Henry have had to manipulate the status of the Say heiress in order to justify Geoffrey coming into the Mandeville inheritance -- he would have been the legal heir. Simply put, this connection is wrong on so many levels, that it would require a higher burden of proof than for a connection that does not have so many strikes against it.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Aft 1115, of Clare, Herefordshire, England

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Also called Roger Fitz Richard. 2nd Earl of Hertford, but generally styled Earl of Clare.

Roger married Maud de St. Hilary. Maud (daughter of James de St. Hilary du Harcourt and Aveline) was born in of Field Dalling, Norfolk, England; died on 24 Dec 1193; was buried in Priory of Great Carbrooke, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 1195

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Also called Maud de St. Hilaire du Harcouet.

Notes:

"He comes into notice first circa 1142, when he attested his father's charter to Bruton. The Empress Maud's grant of an earldom to his father apparently was not recognised by Stephen, for William is never styled Earl. He was a benefactor to his father's foundation at Bruton and confirmed the gifts of his father and grandfather to Bath." [Complete Peerage IX:18.]

William married Godehilde de Tony. Godehilde (daughter of Roger de Tony and Ida de Hainaut) died before 1186. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also called Godeheut, Godehold.

Thomas married (Unknown) de Albemarle. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also Hubert de Vallibus.

Hubert married Grace. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Or Grecia.

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Also called Richard de Clare; Richard of Ceredigion.

"Surprised and slain by the Welsh." [Royal Ancestry]

Richard married Alice of Chester. Alice (daughter of Ranulf le Meschin and Lucy of Bolingbroke) died after 1148. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also called Adeliza la Meschin. "[Richard fitz Gilbert's] wife was rescued from the Welsh by Miles of Gloucester." [Complete Peerage]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 1154

Notes:

Also called James de St. James. Holder of both English and Breton lands.

James married Aveline. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Abt 1145
• Alternate death: Bef 1156

Notes:

"William de Moion, Lord of Dunster, was heir of William de Moion abovenamed, but his exact relationship is uncertain. In 1131 he was at the Council of Northampton. Before the death of Henry I he held more than 30 knight's fees. In 1138 he held Dunster Castle for the Empress Maud. From this stronghold he committed such ravages on the countryside that King Stephen marched against him in force; but finding Dunster Castle impregnable he left a blockading force under Henry de Tracy, who is said to have curbed William's depredations. In 1141 he joined the Empress and was almost certainly at Winchester when she was elected Queen of England on 8 April. Probably soon afterwards, and certainly before 24 June 1141, Maud created him Earl of Somerset. He was with her at Westminster, about 20-24 June, and fled with her to Winchester, where he fought for her during the siege (August-September). His subsequent career is obscure. He founded a priory at Bruton (Somerset), possibly in or soon after 1142; and he was a benefactor to the priories of Bridlington and (possibly) Taunton. He married Agnes, daughter of Walter de Gant. He d. probably in or before 1155. Stephen did not recognise his Earldom, and as Henry II did not grant a new charter to William or his son, the Earldom of Somerset (so far as it existed) lapsed at or before his death." [Complete Peerage XII/1:37-9.]

William married Agnes de Gant. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Abt 1160

Notes:

Also called Roger de Conches.

Roger married Ida de Hainaut about 9 Aug 1138. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also called Robert de Vallibus; Harold.

Robert married (Unknown) de Munchensy. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Bef 1066
• Alternate death: 1114

Notes:

Also called Gilbert de Clare; Gilbert de Tonbridge. Earl of Clare.

"The Welsh annals note his death in 1117." [Royal Ancestry]

Gilbert married Alice de Clermont. Alice (daughter of Hugues and Marguerite de Montdidier) was born in of Clermont, Oise, Picardie, France; died after 1136. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also called Adelaide de Clermont; Adeliza de Clermont-in-Beauvaisis.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Jan 1129
• Alternate death: 17 Jan 1129
• Alternate death: 27 Jan 1129

Notes:

Also called Randle; Ranulf de Briquessart; de Bricasard; Ranulf du Bessin; Ranulf of Chester.

Earl of Chester. Vicomte of Bayeux. Commander of the royal forces in Normandy, 1124.

"Ranulph le Meschin, styled also, 'de Briquessart,' Vicomte de Bayeux in Normandy, s. and h. of Ranulph, Vicomte de Bayeux, by Margaret, sister of Hugh (d'Avranches), Earl of Chester abovenamed, being thus 1st cousin and h. to the last Earl (whom he suc. as Vicomte d'Avranches, &c., in Normandy), obtained, after the Earl's death in 1120, the grant of the county palatine of Chester, becoming thereby Earl of Chester. He appears thereupon to have surrendered the Lordship of the great district of Cumberland, which he had acquired, shortly before, from Henry I. In 1124 he was Commander of the Royal forces in Normandy. He m. Lucy, widow of Roger Fitz-Gerold (by whom she was mother of William de Roumare, afterwards Earl of Lincoln). He d. 17 or 27 Jan. 1129, and was bur. at St. Werburg's, Chester. The Countess Lucy confirmed, as his widow, the grant of the Manor of Spalding to the monks of that place." [Complete Peerage III:166, incorporating corrections from volume XIV.]

Ranulf married Lucy of Bolingbroke about 1098. Lucy was born in of Spalding, Lincolnshire, England; died about 1138. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

"Lucy of Bolingbroke (died circa 1138) was an Anglo-Norman heiress in central England and, later in life, countess of Chester. Probably related to the old English earls of Mercia, she came to possess extensive lands in Lincolnshire which she passed on to her husbands and sons. She was a notable religious patron, founding or co-founding two small religious houses and endowing several with lands and churches. [...] Lucy, as widowed countess, founded the convent of Stixwould in 1135, becoming, in the words of one historian, 'one of the few aristocratic women of the late eleventh and twelfth centuries to achieve the role of independent lay founder.'" [Wikipedia]

Much controversy has ensued over her parentage. Appendix J to volume 7 of the Complete Peerage sums up the state of play in 1929: "The parentage of the Countess Lucy is one of the unsolved puzzles of genealogy. The only direct statements about it are in the Peterborough Chronicle and the pseudo-Ingulf’s Chronicle of Crowland, which agree in saying that she was daughter of Aelfgar, Earl of Mercia, and niece or grandniece of Thorold, sometime Sheriff of co. Lincoln. All that is certainly known is that she was niece of Robert Malet of Eye and of Alan of Lincoln, and that Thorold the Sheriff was a kinsman." The essay goes on to state that a good but not conclusive case can be made for her parents being Thorold the sheriff and an unnamed daughter of Robert Malet.

The ODNB calls Lucy merely "heir of the honour of Bolingbroke". In 1995 Katharine Keats-Rohan made a case for the Thorold hypothesis, but Rosie Bevan argued on SGM that "the main sticking point [...] is that although Lucy is mentioned a few times as Thorold's heir she is not named as his daughter." Bevan went on to propose that the incomplete evidence could as easily be used to argue that Lucy's parents were William Malet (son of Robert) and a daughter of earl Alfgar III.

The one point on which everyone appears to agree is that one of Lucy's parents has to have been a Malet, because in 1153 the future Henry II promised the honour of Eye to Ranulph, earl of Chester, to be held as "Robert Malet the uncle of his mother [i.e., Lucy] held it."

Notes:

Also called Hasculf, Harscoit. Seigneur de St.James et St. Hilaire du Harscouet.