Jeanne de Dammartin

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• Alternate death: 16 Mar 1279, Abbeville, Somme, Picardy, France

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Countess Of Ponthieu, Montreuil, and Aumale.

Jeanne married St. Fernando III, King Of Castile, León, Galicia, Toledo, Córdoba, Jaén, and Seville before 31 Oct 1237 in Burgos, Castile, Spain. Fernando (son of Alfonso IX, King of León and Galicia and Berenguela I of Castile, Queen Of Castile & Toledo) was born between Jun 1201 and Jul 1201 in En route between Salamanca and Zamora; was christened before 5 Aug 1201; died on 30 May 1252 in Seville, Andalusia, Spain; was buried in Cathedral Santa María, Seville, Andalusia, Spain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Eleanor of Castile, Queen Consort of England was born in 1240; died on 28 Nov 1290 in Hardby, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England.

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Count of Aumale.

Simon married Marie of Ponthieu in Sep 1208. Marie (daughter of William II Talvas and Alix of France) was born before 17 Apr 1199; died in Sep 1250 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Between 1195 and 17 Apr 1199
• Alternate birth: 17 Sep 1199

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Countess of Ponthieu and Montreuil. Also called Jeanne.

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• Alternate death: 20 Sep 1200

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Count of Dammartin-en-Goële. Chamberlain of France 1155-1160.

Also called Alberic II; Albri de Luzarches.

Aubrey married Mahaut of Clermont. Mahaut (daughter of Renaud II de Clermont and Clemence de Bar-le-Duc) died in Oct 1200. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Aft Sep 1200
• Alternate death: Aft 1218

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Also Mathilda; Mathilde; Marie; Maud; Mabile.

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• Alternate birth: 1179
• Alternate birth: Aft 1178
• Alternate death: 6 Oct 1221

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Count of Ponthieu & Montreuil.

William married Alix of France on 20 Aug 1195 in Meudon, Hauts-de-Seine, France. Alix (daughter of Louis VII, King of France and Constance of Castile, Queen Consort of France) was born on 4 Oct 1160; died on 18 Jul 1218. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1170
• Alternate death: Aft 18 Jul 1218

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Also Aalez; Aaliz; Aelois; Aalis; Aalaidis; Alais. Countess of Vexin.

Ancestral Roots has her as a daughter of Louis VII by his third wife Adèle of Blois (whom they call "Alix of Champagne"); Richardson's Royal Ancestry, with evidently better documentation, has her as a daughter of Louis by his second wife, Constance of Castile. But Szabolcs de Vajay's comprehensive 1989 survey of the Iberian Burgundians, "From Alfonso VII to Alfonso X: The First Two Centuries of the Burgundian Dynasty in Castile and Leon -- A Prosopographical Catalogue in Social Genealogy, 1100-1300" (in Studies in Genealogy and Family History in Tribute to Charles Evans on the Occasion of His Eightieth Birthday ed. Lindsay L. Brook. Salt Lake City: Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1989) says that Constance of Castile's daughter Adelaide by Louis VII died in infancy. We're going with Richardson on the (weak) basis of his research being more recent.

Update: Peter Stewart, on SGM in October 2016, argued here, here, and here that "Alberic of Troisfontaines specified that Alix, the wife of Guillaume of Ponthieu, was the daughter of Louis VII by his Spanish second wife ('rex iste Ludovicus de prima uxore sua Alienor, quam dimisit, duas habuit filias ... De secunda quoque uxore, que fuit Hyspana, duas similiter habuit filias, primo reginam Margaretam Anglie et comitissam Aaliz, quam duxit Guilelmus comes de Pontivo')," and that there is no good reason to doubt this, particularly since if Alix had been a daughter of Louis VII's third wife, "Alix would have been (on her supposed mother's side) a third cousin of Richard, by common descent from William the Conqueror."

Stewart also argues that Alix cannot have married William II Talvas before August 1195 (rather than 1185 as stated in AR8) "because she was detained in England by Henry II for some years after the rupture in 1191 of her long betrothal to his son Richard. (She had been sent to England as Richard's promised bride in 1174.)"

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Count of Dammartin-en-Goële.

Alberic married Maud. Maud died before 1164. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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"Possibly daughter of William Saint Clair, of Hamerton, Huntingdonshire." [Royal Ancestry]

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Count of Clermont, afterwards Count of Clermont-en-Beauvaisis, Châtelain of Creil, and, in right of his wife, Count of Vermandois.

Went on Crusade in 1099.

Renaud married Clemence de Bar-le-Duc. Clemence (daughter of Renaud I of Mousson and Bar-le-Duc and Gisele de Vaudemont) was born in of Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Argonne, Lorraine, France; died after 1185. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Countess of Dammartin.

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Count of Ponthieu.

Jean married Beatrice Campdavaine before 4 Dec 1170. Beatrice (daughter of Alselm Campdavaine and Eustachie) was born about 1160 in of St. Pol, France; died after 1204. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Beatrice Candavaine; Beatrice of St. Pol.

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• Alternate birth: 1121
• Alternate death: 19 Sep 1180

Louis married Constance of Castile, Queen Consort of France on 10 Nov 1153 in Cathedral of Sant-Croix, Orléans, Loiret, France. Constance (daughter of Alfonso VII, King of Leon and Castile and Berenguela of Barcelona) was born after 1140; died on 4 Oct 1160 in France; was buried in Abbey of Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1138

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Also called Constanza. Died in childbirth.

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Chamberlain to King Louis VI of France, 1122-29.

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• Alternate death: Between 1101 and 1103
• Alternate death: 1102

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Also called Hugh de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis.

Count of Clermont, Breuil-le-Vert, Creil, Gournay, Luzarches, and Mouchy-Saint-Elou.

Hugues married Marguerite de Montdidier about 1080. Marguerite (daughter of Hildouin IV de Montdidier and Adele de Roucy) was born about 1050 in of Montdidier, Somme, Picardy, France; died before 1101. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Marguerite de Roucy.

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• Alternate death: 1150

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Count of Mousson; Count of Bar-le-Duc. Fought in the Second Crusade.

Renaud married Gisele de Vaudemont about 1120. Gisele (daughter of Gerard of Lorraine and Edith of Egisheim) was born in 1090; died in 1141. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Count of Ponthieu.

Guy married Ida before 18 Dec 1139. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 1174

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Count of St. Pol.

Alselm married Eustachie. Eustachie (daughter of Guillaume III Gouët and Mabel of England) died before 1164. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Todd A. Farmerie, 9 Jun 2002, post to SGM:

Eustachie was suggested by Charles Evans to be illegitimate daughter of Eustace, son of King Stephen. This conclusion was based on onomastics and kinship. Eustachie is specifically stated to have been a kinswoman of King Henry II, and is found in several modern sources as Eustachie of Champagne. Eustachie being the female form of Eustace, Evans argued that the only time that Eustace/Eustachie was associated with Champagne was following the marriage of King Stephen to Matilda of Boulogne, daughter of Eustace III of Boulogne. He then chose Eustace, Stephen's son (and Henry II's second cousin) to be father of Eustachie. (It is unclear why Eustace was preferable to Evans over his brother William.) That, anyway, is Evans' suggestion.

The problem with this is that I have traced back her being called Eustachie "of Champagne", and cannot find anything contemporary that calls her this. Where does it come from, then? (One possibility is that this somehow derived from a misunderstanding regarding the nickname of her husband, Anselme "Campdaveine.") If "de Champagne" is non-contemporary, then the primary reason for attaching her to the Champagne/Boulogne family disappears.

It is in this context that we can view the suggestion of Kathleen Thompson, (apparently again based on onomastics and kinship), that Eustachie was daughter of William Gouet (III) by his wife Mabel. This would make her, on her father's side, granddaughter of Eustachie, wife of William Gouet (II), explaining her given name, and on her mother's side, granddaughter, through an illegitimate daughter Mabel, of King Henry I, making her (half-) first cousin of King Henry II. Thus this solution accounts for both the kinship and onomastics.

The take-home message here is that Evans based his conclusion on scant evidence, at least some of which appears to have been flawed. There is an alternative that explains the existing material at least as well, and doesn't require the invention of an illegitimate child of Eustace IV of Boulogne, otherwise thought to have d.s.p.

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"The Fat."

Louis married Alix of Savoy, Queen Consort of France in Mar 1115 in Cathedral of Notre Dame, Paris, France. Alix (daughter of Umberto II of Savoy and Gisela of Burgundy) was born about 1092; died on 18 Nov 1154; was buried in Abbey Church of Saint Pierre, Montmartre, Paris, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Adelaide of Maurienne.

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Called "Emperor" (Emperador).

Alfonso married Berenguela of Barcelona in Nov 1128 in Saldaña, Palencia, Castilla-Leon, Spain. Berenguela (daughter of Ramon III Berenguer and Dulce de Gévauden) was born about 1114; died on 15 Jan 1149 in Palencia, Castile, Spain; was buried in Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela, Galicia, Spain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: 1116
• Alternate death: 31 Jan 1149, Palencia, Castile, Spain
• Alternate death: 3 Feb 1149

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Lord of Clermont; Chamberlain of France for Henri I.

"The first Renaud (i.e. the 1054 seigneur of Clermont) was either dead by May 1061, or at any rate no longer royal chamberlain from then." [Peter Stewart, soc.genealogy.medieval, 20 Dec 2019]

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1010

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Count of Montdidier & Roucy.

Hildouin married Adele de Roucy in 1031. Adele (daughter of Ebles I de Roucy and Beatrix of Hainaut) was born about 1014 in Roucy, Aisne, Picardy, France; died in 1062. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Between 1015 and 1020
• Alternate death: 1063

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Also called Dietrich; Theodoric. Count of Bar-le-Duc.

Thierry married Ermentrude of Burgundy about 1065. Ermentrude (daughter of William I "The Great" of Burgundy and Stephanie) died on 8 Mar 1105. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Aft 1105

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• Alternate death: Abt 1120

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Count of Vaudemont.

Gerard married Edith of Egisheim. Edith (daughter of Gerhard II of Egisheim and Richarde) died before 29 Jan 1126. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 1118

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Also called Helvide; Helwide von Dagsburg.

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Count of Ponthieu and Alençon.

Guillaume married Helie of Burgundy about 1115. Helie (daughter of Odo I of Burgundy and Sibylla of Burgundy) was born about 1080 in Dijon, Côte-d'Or, Burgundy, France; died on 28 Feb 1142. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Alice, Alix of Burgundy; Ela of Burgundy.

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Count of St. Pol.

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Seigneur de Montmirail and Alluyes.

Guillaume married Mabel of England before 1125. Mabel (daughter of Henry I, King of England and (Unknown mistress or mistresses of Henry I)) died after 1125. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Philippe married Bertha of Holland, Queen Consort of France in 1072. Bertha (daughter of Floris I of Holland and Gertrude of Saxony) was born about 1055; died on 30 Jul 1093 in Montreuil-sur-Mer, Pas-de-Calais, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 1094

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Called "the Fat." Count of Maurienne, Savoy, and Turin

Umberto married Gisela of Burgundy about 1090. Gisela (daughter of William I "The Great" of Burgundy and Stephanie) was born about 1070; died after 1133. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Marchioness of Montferrat.

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1070, Besançon, France
• Alternate death: 13 Sep 1107, Grajal de Campos, León, Spain
• Alternate death: 20 Sep 1107, Grajal de Campos, León, Spain

Raymond married Urraca, Queen of Galicia, Castile, Leon, and Toledo between Dec 1092 and Jan 1093 in Toledo, Toledo, Castilla-La Mancha, Spain. Urraca (daughter of Alfonso VI, King of Leon, Castile, and Galicia and Constance of Burgundy) was born on 24 Jun 1081 in León, León, Spain; died on 8 Mar 1126 in Saldaña, Palencia, Castilla-Leon, Spain; was buried in Monastery of San Isidoro, León, Spain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: 1082

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Countess of Galicia 1093; heiress presumptive in 1108. Queen in her own right of Galicia, Castile, Leon, and Toledo, 1 Jul 1109.

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• Alternate death: 19 Jul 1131, Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

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"The Great." Count of Barcelona.

Ramon married Dulce de Gévauden on 3 Feb 1112. Dulce (daughter of Gilbert of Gévauden and Gerberga of Provence) was born after 1092; died between 28 Nov 1127 and 1130. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Countess of Provence.