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John de Verney

Male - Aft 1321


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England (son of Robert de Verney); died after 1321.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. John de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England (son of Ralph de Verney and Agnes du Hommet); died in 1322.
    Children:
    1. 1. John de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England; died after 1321.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Ralph de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England (son of John de Verney); died after 1278.

    Ralph married Agnes du Hommet after 1198. Agnes (daughter of William du Hommet and Lucy) died after Apr 1224. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Agnes du Hommet (daughter of William du Hommet and Lucy); died after Apr 1224.
    Children:
    1. 2. Robert de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England; died in 1322.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England (son of Ralph de Verney); died after 1233.
    Children:
    1. 4. Ralph de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England; died after 1278.

  2. 10.  William du Hommet (son of Richard du Hommet and Agnes de Beaumont); died between 1201 and 1205.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 13 Nov 1205
    • Alternate death: Abt 1209
    • Alternate death: Abt 1213

    Notes:

    Also called William de Humez. Hereditary Constable of Normandy.

    William married Lucy. Lucy died before 1190; was buried in Southwick Priory, Hampshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 11.  Lucy died before 1190; was buried in Southwick Priory, Hampshire, England.

    Notes:

    Richardson calls her "granddaughter and heiress of Adam de Brus". This SGM thread clarifies that we're talking about Adam I de Brus (~1113-~1142), but problems remain.

    Children:
    1. 5. Agnes du Hommet died after Apr 1224.
    2. Agatha du Hommet


Generation: 5

  1. 16.  Ralph de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England; died about 1226.

    Notes:

    He fought for John against the barons.

    Children:
    1. 8. John de Verney was born in of Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire, England; died after 1233.

  2. 20.  Richard du Hommet was born in of Stamford, Lincolnshire, England (son of Robert du Hommet and (Unknown) du Hommet); died in 1180.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1181

    Notes:

    Also called Richard de Humez, de Hulmeto. Constable of Normandy. "He was present at Westminster, 1153, when the agreement between King Stephen and Henry, Duke of Normandy, was signed regarding the succession of the Crown." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Richard married Agnes de Beaumont. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 21.  Agnes de Beaumont (daughter of Jordan de Say and Lucy de Rumilly).

    Notes:

    Also called Agnes de Say.

    Children:
    1. 10. William du Hommet died between 1201 and 1205.


Generation: 6

  1. 40.  Robert du Hommet (son of John of Bayeux); died before 1154.

    Notes:

    Also called Robert du Humet. Constable of Normandy. In 1086, held of earl Roger three hides in Storrington, Sussex.

    Called nepos episcopi in several contemporary sources. William Farrer (Honors and Knight's Fees, citation details below) and Thomas Stapleton (Magni rotuli Scaccarii Normanniae sub regibus Angliae, 1840-44) both believed he was a grandson of Bishop Odo of Bayeaux, the one depicted on the Bayeux Tapestry wielding a club. In 1950 Kathleen Major criticized this model as well as the suggestion that "nepos episcopi" referred to Robert Bloett, bishop of Lincoln. In Domesday Descendants (2002), K. S. B. Keats-Rohan called the identification of this Robert as a grandson of Odo "a weak chain of supposition." And in a 2000 post to SGM, J. C. B. Sharp argued that the bishop in question was Ranulf Flambard, bishop of Durham 1099-1128.

    But in 2007, Daniel Power (in Henry, Duke of the Normans, Boydell Press) pointed out the existence of a contemporary charter for Saint-Fromond that describes Robert du Hommet as "nepos Odonis episcopi", which, as Peter Stewart observes in this post to SGM, is pretty strong evidence that Farrer and Stapleton were right all along.

    Robert married (Unknown) du Hommet. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 41.  (Unknown) du Hommet (daughter of William du Hommet).
    Children:
    1. 20. Richard du Hommet was born in of Stamford, Lincolnshire, England; died in 1180.

  3. 42.  Jordan de Say was born in of Aunay-sur-Odon, Calvados, France (son of William de Say and Agnes de Grandmesnil).

    Jordan married Lucy de Rumilly. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 43.  Lucy de Rumilly (daughter of Robert de Rumilly).

    Notes:

    Also called Lucy de Aulnay.

    Children:
    1. William de Say died in Aug 1144 in Burwell, Cambridgeshire, England.
    2. 21. Agnes de Beaumont