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William de Harcourt

Male Bef 1227 - 1271  (> 43 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  William de Harcourt was born before 1227 in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England (son of Richard de Harcourt and Orabel de Quincy); died between 1270 and 19 Apr 1271.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 5 Jul 1270

    Notes:

    He joined Simon de Montfort in the rebellion against Henry III.

    William married Hillary de Hastings about 1256. Hillary (daughter of Henry Hastings and Ada of Huntingdon) died after 1294. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Richard de Harcourt was born on 9 Dec 1256 in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England; died before 1 Mar 1293.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Richard de Harcourt was born about 1202 in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England (son of William de Harcourt and Alice Noel); died about Jan 1258.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 2 Apr 1258

    Notes:

    Justice of Assize or of gaol delivery in Nottinghamshire, 1236; in Oxfordshire, 1237; and in Gloucestershire, 1241. Justice of the Forest in Buckinghamshire 1240.

    Richard married Orabel de Quincy before 1219. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Orabel de Quincy (daughter of Saher de Quincy and Margaret of Leicester).

    Notes:

    Also called Arabella. Predeceased her husband.

    Children:
    1. William de Harcourt was born in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England; died before 5 Jul 1270.
    2. 1. William de Harcourt was born before 1227 in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England; died between 1270 and 19 Apr 1271.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  William de Harcourt was born about 1175 in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England (son of Robert de Harcourt and Isabel de Camville); died between 1222 and 1223.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 6 Apr 1223

    Notes:

    Governor of Tamworth Castle.

    "Constable of Corf Castle 1212-1215; Custos of Yorkshire 1215-1217. Went on the Fifth Crusade with Randle, Earl of Chester 1218-1220 and was at the siege of Damietta." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    William married Alice Noel about 1200. Alice (daughter of Thomas Noel and Margaret Le Strange) died in 1235. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Alice Noel (daughter of Thomas Noel and Margaret Le Strange); died in 1235.
    Children:
    1. 2. Richard de Harcourt was born about 1202 in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England; died about Jan 1258.

  3. 6.  Saher de Quincy was born in 1155 in Winchester, Hampshire, England (son of Robert de Quincy and Orabel fitz Ness); died on 3 Nov 1219 in Damietta, Egypt; was buried in Acre, Palestine.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Grantchester, Cambridgeshire, England

    Notes:

    Earl of Winchester. Also spelled Saier, Saer.

    Magna Carta surety.

    Steward of the King 1205-7; Constable of Fotheringay Castle 1215; Judge in the King's Court 1211, 1213-14; Keeper of Canford and Hedingham Castles 1214.

    Died in the Fifth Crusade. His heart was brought back and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough, a house endowed by his wife's family. The rest of him was buried in Acre. [Royal Ancestry]

    Saher married Margaret of Leicester before 1173. Margaret (daughter of Robert de Breteuil and Pernel de Grandmesnil) died on 12 Jan 1235. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Margaret of Leicester (daughter of Robert de Breteuil and Pernel de Grandmesnil); died on 12 Jan 1235.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1236

    Notes:

    Or Margery. [Royal Ancestry]

    Also known as Margaret de Beaumont.

    Children:
    1. Robert de Quincy died after 20 May 1217 in London, England; was buried in Church of the Hospitallers, Clerkenwell, London, England.
    2. Hawise de Quincy died after 1263; was buried in Earl's Colne Priory, Halstead, Great Bromley, Essex, England.
    3. 3. Orabel de Quincy
    4. Roger de Quincy was born about 1195; was christened in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England; died on 25 Apr 1264.
    5. Robert de Quincy was born before 1200 in of Wakes Colne, Essex, England; died in Aug 1257.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Robert de Harcourt was born in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England; died about 1205.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Stanton-Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England
    • Alternate birth: of Bosworth, Leicestershire, England
    • Alternate death: Abt 1206

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Leicestershire and Warwickshire 1198-1202. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography and other sources notwithstanding, his parentage is not known; specifically, he is not proven as a son of Ivo de Harcourt.

    Robert married Isabel de Camville. Isabel (daughter of Richard de Camville and Milicent of Réthel) died after 1207. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Isabel de Camville (daughter of Richard de Camville and Milicent of Réthel); died after 1207.
    Children:
    1. Alice de Harcourt died in 1205.
    2. 4. William de Harcourt was born about 1175 in of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England; died between 1222 and 1223.

  3. 10.  Thomas Noel was born in of Ellenhall, Staffordshire, England (son of Robert fitz Noel and Alice); died about 1206.

    Thomas married Margaret Le Strange before 1177. Margaret (daughter of Guy Le Strange) died about Feb 1222. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Margaret Le Strange (daughter of Guy Le Strange); died about Feb 1222.
    Children:
    1. 5. Alice Noel died in 1235.

  5. 12.  Robert de Quincy was born in of Tranant, East Lothian, Scotland (son of Saher I de Quincy and Maud de Senlis); died after 20 Aug 1201.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Buckby, Northamptonshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Sep 1197
    • Alternate death: Bef 1208

    Notes:

    Or de Quency. [Royal Ancestry] Justiciar of Scotland; Crusader.

    Robert married Orabel fitz Ness before 1155, and was divorced before 1174. Orabel (daughter of Ness fitz William) died before 30 Jun 1203. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Orabel fitz Ness (daughter of Ness fitz William); died before 30 Jun 1203.

    Notes:

    Countess of Mar. Also called Orabel de Leuchars.

    Children:
    1. 6. Saher de Quincy was born in 1155 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; died on 3 Nov 1219 in Damietta, Egypt; was buried in Acre, Palestine.

  7. 14.  Robert de Breteuil was born in of Leicester, Leicestershire, England (son of Robert of Meulan and Amice de Gael); died in 1190; was buried in Durazzo, Greece.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Bef 1135
    • Alternate death: 31 Aug 1190, At sea
    • Alternate death: 31 Aug 1190, Romania

    Notes:

    Earl of Leicester. Also known as Robert de Beaumont. According to Complete Peerage, nicknamed ès Blanchemains, which translates as "white-hands".

    Steward of England and Normandy; seigneur of Bréteuil and Paci in Normandy. In 1173, he supported Prince Henry, the "young king," in his rebellion against his father Henry II, and in consequence he and his wife were imprisoned by the elder Henry from fall 1173 to fall 1174.

    Died on the way to Jerusalem. Durazzo is now the city of Durres in Albania.

    Robert married Pernel de Grandmesnil in 1155. Pernel (daughter of William de Grandmesnil) died on 1 Apr 1212. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Pernel de Grandmesnil (daughter of William de Grandmesnil); died on 1 Apr 1212.

    Notes:

    Called "Petronilla" in many sources.

    Royal Ancestry gives her as the "daughter of Hugh de Grandmesnil of Hinckley, Leicestershire."

    Complete Peerage says "[Robert, Earl of Leicester (d. 1190)] m., before 1155-1159, Pernel (Petronilla), heiress of the Norman honour of Grandmesnil, great-granddaughter of Hugh de Grandmesnil, the Domesday tenant, but her ancestry has not been discovered. (h)
    "Note (h):
    "Hugh de Grandmesnil, the Domesday tenant, had five sons -- Robert, William, Hugh, Ives and Aubrey ... Robert, the eldest son, inherited the Norman lands which are later found in Robert FitzPernel's hands [i.e. Robert, Earl of Leicester (d. 1204), the son of Pernel]. He m., 1stly, Agnes, da. of Ranulph de Bayeux; 2ndly, Emma, da. of Robert d'Estouteville; and, 3rdly, Lucy, da. of Savary FitzCana (Orderic, vol. iii, p. 359). ... if she [Pernel] inherited the Norman lands she would in all probability be a daughter of a son of Hugh's son Robert. Hugh's father and son are both called Robert, and if this alternating nomenclature -- a very usual system -- was continued, a son of Robert the younger would be named Hugh. This is the name given to Pernel's father in the foundation narrative of Leicester Abbey, and although the story told there is fictitious ... it is possible that the writer may have had before him a document such as a list of obits giving the authentic name. It is not claimed that this suggested descent is more than speculative."

    Chris Phillips, in his Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage, Volume 7: Leicester, says "In fact, Pernel's father was called William, as shown by a charter for St-Evroult discovered by David Crouch [The Beaumont Twins, p.91, citing the Cartulary of St-Evroult, ii, fo 33v]. However, the argument that her grandfather is likely to have been Robert, the eldest son of Hugh de Grandmesnil, still seems sound. To some extent it is supported by the following evidence.

    "In 1157, Henry II confirmed gifts made to the hospital of Falaise by William de Grentmesnil and others [Cal. Docs France, no 1157]. By an undated charter (perhaps from 1160 or later), one Beatrix de Rye gave land to the abbey of St Jean of Falaise, for the well-being of her mother Emma and of her brother William de Grentemesnil [Lechaude d'Anisy, Extrait des Chartes ... dans les archives du Calvados, vol.1, p.232, no 9 (1834)]. It seems likely that this Beatrix was a daughter of Robert de Grandmesnil by his second wife, Emma d'Estouteville, particularly as the name Beatrix occurs in the Estouteville family, and was possibly borne by Emma's mother [C.T. Clay, ed., Early Yorkshire Charters, vol.9, p.2 (1952)]. If so, this would confirm that Robert also had a son William, who would probably be Pernel's father.

    "Note that K.S.B. Keats-Rohan [Domesday People I, p. 263 (1999)] states that Pernel's father William was the son of Robert by Emma d'Estouteville, but no evidence is cited for the relationship."

    Children:
    1. 7. Margaret of Leicester died on 12 Jan 1235.
    2. Amicie de Beaumont died on 3 Sep 1215.