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Elizabeth de Verdun

Female Abt 1306 - 1360  (~ 54 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Elizabeth de Verdun was born about 1306 (daughter of Thebaud de Verdun and Maud de Mortimer); died on 1 May 1360; was buried in Grey Friars, Smithfield, London, England.

    Elizabeth married Bartholomew de Burghersh before 11 Jun 1320. Bartholomew (son of Robert de Burghersh and Maud de Badlesmere) was born about 1304 in of Burghersh, Sussex, England; died on 3 Aug 1355 in Dover, Kent, England; was buried in Lincoln Cathedral, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Bartholomew de Burghersh was born in of Burghersh, Sussex, England; died on 5 Apr 1369; was buried in Walsingham Abbey, Norfolk, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Thebaud de Verdun was born on 8 Sep 1278 in of Alton, Staffordshire, England (son of Thebaud de Verdun and Margery de Bohun); died on 27 Jul 1316 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Fought at Falkirk. Justiciar of Ireland, 30 Apr 1313 - Jan 1315. He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 29 Dec 1299 to 16 Oct 1315.

    Thebaud married Maud de Mortimer on 29 Jul 1302 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England. Maud (daughter of Edmund de Mortimer and Margaret de Fiennes) died on 17 Sep 1312 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Maud de Mortimer (daughter of Edmund de Mortimer and Margaret de Fiennes); died on 17 Sep 1312 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 18 Sep 1312, Alton, Staffordshire, England

    Children:
    1. Joan de Verdun was born on 9 Aug 1303 in Wootton in Stanton Lacy, Shropshire, England; died on 2 Oct 1334 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England.
    2. 1. Elizabeth de Verdun was born about 1306; died on 1 May 1360; was buried in Grey Friars, Smithfield, London, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Thebaud de Verdun was born about 1248 in of Alton, Staffordshire, England (son of John de Verdun and Margaret de Lacy); died on 24 Aug 1309 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England.

    Notes:

    He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 24 Jun 1295 to 11 Jun 1309. Styled himself constable of Ireland, 1282-84.

    Thebaud married Margery de Bohun before 6 Nov 1276. Margery (daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Maud of Avenbury) died between 1280 and 1304. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Margery de Bohun (daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Maud of Avenbury); died between 1280 and 1304.

    Notes:

    She has long been widely held to be a daughter of the Humphrey de Bohun who died in 1265, in the lifetime of his father, and who as a result never held the earlship of Hereford possessed by both his father and his son.

    In a 2 Dec 2020 post to soc.genealogy.medieval, Peter Stewart argued that she may instead have been a daughter of that Humphrey's father, the Humphrey de Bohun who d. 1275, by his second wife, Maud of Avenbury.

    In a 3 Dec 2020 post, Douglas Richardson defended her placement as a daughter of the Humphrey de Bohun who d.s.p. in 1265.

    In subsequent posts in the thread, Peter Stewart defended his position, in particular making the point that if this Margery de Bohun had been a daughter of Humphrey de Bohun who d. 1265 and his (only) wife Eleanor de Briouze, her son Thebaud de Verdun's 1302 marriage to his first wife Maud de Mortimer, which produced issue, would have been a marriage of second cousins, both of them being great-grandchildren of William de Briouze and Eve Marshal.

    No record exists of a dispensation for this Verdun-Mortimer marriage in the 4-volume published records of the pope of that time, Boniface VIII. Stewart pointed out that Boniface is known to have believed that dispensations from consanguinity rules should only be given for reasons such as the general good of the realm, and that the Verduns and Mortimers were "not in a league where this sort of reason could be proposed." As Stewart pointed out, "Defiance of canon law was not undertaken lightly in that era. The upside of trying, at the Verdun-Mortimer stratum of rank and power anyway, was hardly worth the very foreseeable downside."

    This, combined with the chronological problems which are resolved by placing this Margary as a daughter of the older Humphrey de Bohun by his second wife, convinces us that this is likelier to be the correct solution.

    Children:
    1. 2. Thebaud de Verdun was born on 8 Sep 1278 in of Alton, Staffordshire, England; died on 27 Jul 1316 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England.

  3. 6.  Edmund de Mortimer was born between 1251 and 1254 in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England (son of Roger de Mortimer and Maud de Briouze); died on 17 Jul 1304 in Wigmore Castle, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1252
    • Alternate birth: 1255, of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
    • Alternate death: Aft 17 Jul 1304, near Cilmiri, Powyth, Wales

    Notes:

    Mortally wounded at the Battle of Builth. "Intended for a church career, he was Treasurer of York 1265-1270. He commanded the troops that slew Llewelyn, Prince of Wales, at Buelt 1282, he not yet being a knight." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    Edmund married Margaret de Fiennes before 12 Dec 1285. Margaret (daughter of Guillaume de Fiennes and Blanche de Brienne) died on 7 Feb 1344. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Margaret de Fiennes (daughter of Guillaume de Fiennes and Blanche de Brienne); died on 7 Feb 1344.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Between 1333 and 1344

    Children:
    1. 3. Maud de Mortimer died on 17 Sep 1312 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England.
    2. Roger de Mortimer was born on 3 May 1286 in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England; died on 29 Nov 1330 in Tyburn, Middlesex, England; was buried in Church of the Greyfriars, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John de Verdun was born about 1226 in of Alton, Staffordshire, England (son of Theobald le Boteler and Rohese de Verdun); died before 17 Oct 1274.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 21 Oct 1274

    Notes:

    Also called Sir John le Botiller; Sir John le Boteler; John le Botiller de Verdun.

    Ally of the King against Simon de Montfort. Went to Sicily, 1271, on crusade with Lord Edward (later Edward I).

    The Wallop Family claims that has was "slain in Ireland", a circumstance and place not mentioned in RA. CP says "He is said to have d. 21 Oct 1274" and footnotes this with: "Though the writ appears to have been issued, 17 Oct. [...] According to the Annals of Clonmacnoise, he and 13 knights were poisoned together in England."

    John married Margaret de Lacy before 20 Apr 1242. Margaret (daughter of Gilbert de Lacy and Isabel le Bigod) died in 1256. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Margaret de Lacy (daughter of Gilbert de Lacy and Isabel le Bigod); died in 1256.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1267

    Children:
    1. 4. Thebaud de Verdun was born about 1248 in of Alton, Staffordshire, England; died on 24 Aug 1309 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England.

  3. 10.  Humphrey de Bohun was born after 28 Apr 1199 (son of Henry de Bohun and Maud de Mandeville); died on 24 Sep 1275; was buried in Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1200

    Notes:

    Earl of Hereford and, from 27 Aug 1236, Earl of Essex.

    Hereditary Constable of England; Constable of the Exchequer 1228; Constable of Dover Castle and Warden of the Cinque Ports 1239-41; Sheriff of Kent 1239-41; Warden of the Marches of Wales 1245; a crusader in 1250; Privy Councillor 1258; Justice of Assize at Cardiff 1261; Chief Captain of the Army in Wales 1263; Constable of Haye, Huntingdon, and Tregruk Castles.

    "After his father's death William Brewer had custody of Caldicot [Monmouth] and of Walton in Surrey, but Humphrey had livery of Caldicot Castle and all lands held in chief the next year, the King having taken his homage. He joined the Earl of Cornwall in his quarrel with the King in 1227. In 1228/9 he had an acquittance for 15 1/5 fees of the moiety of the fees of Trowbridge. At the coronation of Queen Eleanor in 1236 he was Marshal of the Household. He had livery of his mother's lands 9 Sep. 1236. In 1237 he went on a pilgrimage to Santiago. He was appointed constable of Dover Castle 27 Feb. 1238/9, which he surrendered 4 Nov. 1241, and during these years was sheriff of Kent. He stood sponsor at the baptism of Edward I in 1239. In 1242 he was in the expedition to France, but returned because of the King's foreign favourites. In 1244 the cause of the Welsh rising is assigned to his having kept in his hand the inheritance of the wife of David, s. of Llewelyn, Prince of Wales. He joined in the remonstrance to the Pope in 1246, and was present at the Great Council of 1248. In 1250 he was among those who took the Cross. On 13 Sep. 1251 he had licence to make his will. He was present at the sentence of excommunication against the transgressors of the charters (1253). He had a protection 15 Nov. 1253 for as long as the King remained in Gascony, and was with him there in 1254, but withdrew (having the King's permission) after failing to obtain satisfaction in a matter concerning his jurisdiction as constable. On 18 Dec. 1253 he and his eld. s. Humphrey had licence to hunt hare, fox, cat and other wild beasts in the forests of Bradon and Savernake, Wilts. In 1257 he was appointed to keep the marches between Montgomery and the land of the Earl of G1oucester, and had a protection 22 Oct. on staying in Wales in the service of Prince Edward. In 1258 he was one of the 24 councillors to draw up the Provisions of Oxford, being chosen among the Barons' twelve, and was thereafter one of the fifteen chosen to advise the King on all points; he was also one of the twelve elected by the Barons to represent the community in three annual parliaments, and was one of the 24 who were concerned in treating of aids. In 1259 he was the King's representative (with the Count of Aumale) for the preservation of peace between France and England; was concerned with Llywellyn ap Gruffydd in the matter of the truce; and was one of the commissioners who ratified the treaty between France and England in July. On 10 Aug. 1260 he was sent to treat for peace with Llywellyn, and on 25 Aug. 1262 was one of the commissioners to meet Llywellyn's commissioners at the Ford of Montgomery. He had a grant of the custody of the lands of the late Earl of Gloucester 18 July 1262. In the struggle of 1263/4 he took the side of the King; was one of the keepers of the City of London, 9 Oct. 1265, and one of the plenipotentiaries for the Dictum of Kenilworth." [Complete Peerage 6:459]

    Humphrey married Maud of Avenbury. Maud died on 8 Oct 1273 in Sorges, Gascony, France; was buried after 8 Oct 1273 in Sorges, Gascony, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Maud of Avenbury died on 8 Oct 1273 in Sorges, Gascony, France; was buried after 8 Oct 1273 in Sorges, Gascony, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Buried: 1290, Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

    Notes:

    Her parentage is not established. Douglas Richardson calls her "presumably" a sister of Walter, Osbert, and Master Giles de Avenbury. Complete Peerage notes that "[a] Walter de Avenbury paid 4,000 marks in 1250 for the custody of the land and heir of Richard de Anesy, and in 1273 a Walter de Avenbury was late collector of the 20th in Hereford."

    Children:
    1. Eleanor de Bohun died after 10 Jun 1278.
    2. 5. Margery de Bohun died between 1280 and 1304.

  5. 12.  Roger de Mortimer was born in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England (son of Ralph de Mortimer and Gwladus Ddu); died on 27 Oct 1282 in Kingsland, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1231, Cwmaron Castle, Radnorshire, Wales
    • Alternate death: Bef 30 Oct 1282, Kingsland, Herefordshire, England

    Notes:

    Captain General of the Marshes; Constable of Clun and Hereford Castles; Sheriff of Herefordshire 1266-7.

    According to one chronicle account, it was he who struck the blow that killed Simon de Montfort at Evesham.

    "He had livery of his inheritance 26 February 1246/7; and at Whitsuntide 1253 was made a knight by the King at Winchester. He was serving in Gascony in 1253, and 1254, and from 1255 to 1264 was chiefly occupied with his duties on the March, opposing the successes of his cousin Llewelyn ap Griffith, who was gradually uniting all the Welsh chieftains under his leadership. In the disputes between the King and the Barons in 1258, Mortimer at first took the Barons' side, and was one of the twelve chosen by them to act with twelve chosen by the King, and one of the twenty-four appointed to treat about an aid for the King. In October 1258 he attested the King's proclamation for the observance of the Provisions of Oxford, and in Apr. 1259 was sworn of the King's Council. The 'Provisions' drawn up by the Barons in that year directed that Roger de Mortimer and Philip Basset should accompany the justiciar. On 11 June of that year he was appointed one of the commissioners to demand satisfaction from Llewelyn for breaches of the truce, which on 25 June was prolonged for one year. He was present at the confirmation of the treaty with France, 21 July 1259. On 19 May 1260 the Council of Magnates appointed him constable of Hereford Castle. On 17 July following he arrived in London to attend a Council, and on that day Llewelyn's men took Builth Castle, of which Mortimer had custody for Prince Edward. In December 1260 he had a licence to take game and to fish along the Thames and its tributaries. In December 1261 he was commanded to send his seal, if he were unable to come in person, to have it affixed to the writing made of peace between the King and the Barons. The whole of the years 1262 and 1263 he spent in fighting Llewelyn with varying success. On 3 December 1263 he was one of the armed nobles with the King when Henry demanded, and was refused, entry to Dover Castle; and in January following attested, on the King's side, the submission of the quarrel between Henry and the Barons to Louis, King of France. On 6 April 1264 he was with the King at the taking of Northampton, and captured a number of prisoners; and in May was with the King at Lewes, but fled from the field to Pevensey. He and others who had fled were allowed to return home, giving hostages that they would come to Parliament, when summoned, and stand trial by their peers. Mortimer and the other Lords Marchers did not attend Montfort's 'Parliament' at Midsummer 1264, but were constrained to make peace with him in August. In September Mortimer, as constable of Cardigan, was ordered to give up the castle to Guy de Brien, Montfort's nominee. The Marchers again broke the truce, but before Christmas Montfort and Llewelyn finally reduced them to submission. Soon afterwards Roger and the others were banished to Ireland for a year, but did not go; and in December he had safe conduct to see the King and Prince Edward, who was at Kenilworth. In June 1265 he was among the 'rebels holding certain towns and castles throughout the land, and raising new wars.' Later in the same month he contrived the plan, and furnished the swift horse, by means of which Prince Edward escaped from Hereford Castle and came to Wigmore, where he and Roger de Clifford rode out to meet him and drove off his pursuers. At Evesham, on 4 August 1265, Mortimer commanded the rearguard; and after Montfort's death his head was sent to Mortimer's wife at Wigmore. Mortimer was liberally rewarded, receiving, among other grants, the 'county and honour' of Oxford with lands forfeited by Robert de Vere. In September 1265 he was at the Parliament at Winchester. From Easter 1266 to Michaelmas 1267 he was sheriff of Hereford. On 4 May 1266 he, with Edmund the King's son, and others, was given power to repress the King's enemies; but on 15 May he was heavily defeated by the Welsh at Brecknock, escaping only with difficulty. He took part in the siege of Kenilworth in June 1266. In February 1266/7 he quarrelled with Gloucester over the treatment of the 'disinherited,' whom Gloucester favoured. He was present at the Council at Westminster, 12 February 1269/70. Shortly before Prince Edward sailed for the Holy Land, in August 1270, he was made one of the trustees for the Prince's estates during his absence on the Crusade. On 12 September 1271 he was summoned to 'Parliament' at Westminster. In December 1272 he put down a threatened rising in the North, and the following February was sent to Chester to inquire into complaints against Reynold de Grey, justice there. In 1274 and 1275 he sat as a justice. He was one of the magnates having large interests in Ireland present in Parliament at Westminster, 19 May 1275, who granted the same export duties on wool and hides in their ports in Ireland as had been granted by the lords in England. In October following he was chief assessor of a subsidy in Salop and Staffs. On 12 November 1276 he was one of the magnates at Westminster who gave judgment against Llewelyn; four days later was appointed 'captain' of Salop and cos. Stafford and Hereford and the Marches against the Welsh prince. In 1279 he held a splendid tournament at Kenilworth. On 27 October 1282 the King ordered, 'as a special favour which has never been granted before,' that if Roger should die during his present illness, the executors of his will should not be impeded by reason of his debts to the Exchequer." [Complete Peerage]

    Roger married Maud de Briouze before 1248. Maud (daughter of William de Briouze and Eve Marshal) died on 16 Mar 1301. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Maud de Briouze (daughter of William de Briouze and Eve Marshal); died on 16 Mar 1301.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 23 Mar 1301

    Children:
    1. Isabella de Mortimer died before 1 Apr 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.
    2. 6. Edmund de Mortimer was born between 1251 and 1254 in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England; died on 17 Jul 1304 in Wigmore Castle, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

  7. 14.  Guillaume de Fiennes was born in of Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England (son of Enguerrand de Fiennes and (Unknown) de Condé); died on 11 Jul 1302 in Kortrijk, Flanders.

    Notes:

    He and his younger brother Giles accompanied the future Edward I on his crusade to the Holy Land. He was killed fighting on the French side at the Battle of the Golden Spurs.

    Guillaume married Blanche de Brienne between 18 Jan 1266 and Feb 1267. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Blanche de Brienne (daughter of Jean de Brienne and Jeanne de Châteaudun).
    Children:
    1. 7. Margaret de Fiennes died on 7 Feb 1344.
    2. Joan de Fiennes died before 26 Oct 1309.
    3. Jean de Fiennes died after 1324.