Hugh Poynings

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Also called Hugh Saint John.

Hugh married Eleanor Welles before 29 Sep 1406. Eleanor (daughter of John Welles and Eleanor Mowbray) died after 7 Nov 1458. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Constance Poynings was born about 1409; died before 18 Nov 1442.

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Also called Thomas Saint John.

Thomas married Joan le Strange before 1376. Joan (daughter of Roger le Strange and Aline de Arundel) died after 16 Oct 1390. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 24 Feb 1368 to 20 Jan 1376.

Luke married Isabel de St. John before 29 Jan 1349. Isabel (daughter of Hugh de St. John and Mirabel Wake) was born about 1333; died on 16 Oct 1393. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 17 Oct 1393

Roger married Aline de Arundel before Jul 1351. Aline (daughter of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne) died on 20 Jan 1386. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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He was killed in an attack on the place Complete Peerage describes as "the castle of Honnecourt, on the St. Quentin canal, arr. of Cambrai." While this is a confusing geographical description, there is no excuse for the several online trees that appear to have decided "Cambrai" is an abbreviation for Cambridgeshire.

Thomas married Agnes de Rokesley about 1317. Agnes (daughter of Richard de Rokesley and Joan de Criol) was born about 1299; died before 22 Dec 1346; was buried in Poynings, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Keeper of Pamber Forest. King's yeoman.

Hugh married Mirabel Wake before 16 Sep 1329. Mirabel (daughter of Hugh Wake and Joan de Belauney) died after Jun 1355. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Or Muriel.

Roger married Maud. Maud died before 1344. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: 1 May 1285, Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire, England

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Also called Edmund Arundel. Earl of Arundel. An opponent of Gaveston, he became one of the Lords Ordainers, and one of those before whom Gaveston was tried before he was killed. Edmund Fitz Alan was also among the magnates who refused to help Edward II against Scotland, resulting in the disaster at Bannockburn. However, around the time his son Richard was betrothed to Hugh Dispenser the Younger's daughter Isabel, Fitz Alan began a rapprochement with the king. This would ultimately result in Fitz Alan's execution on the order of Roger Mortimer. According to a one account, a blunt sword was ordered, and his beheading took 22 strokes.

"Though he was never canonised, a cult emerged around the late earl in the 1390s, associating him with the 9th-century martyr king St Edmund. This veneration may have been inspired by a similar cult around his grandson, Richard Fitz Alan, 11th Earl of Arundel, who was executed by Richard II in 1397." [Wikipedia]

Just to drive home the point that association with the Despensers never works out for anybody, in 1344 his son Richard sought and obtained an anullment from his marriage to Isabel le Despenser, on the grounds that the betrothal had been inflicted on him in childhood and without his consent.

Edmund married Alice de Warenne after 30 Dec 1304. Alice (daughter of William de Warenne and Joan de Vere) died between 1330 and 23 May 1338. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Knight of the shire for Sussex, 1312-13. He was probably killed at the battle of Bannockburn.

Michael married Margery Bardolf before 8 Jun 1298. Margery (daughter of Hugh Bardolf and Isabel Aguillon) died after 24 Feb 1334. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Seneschal of Poitou. Governor of Poitou and Montreuil.

Richard married Joan de Criol. Joan (daughter of Bertram de Criol and Eleanor de Crevecoeur) died in 1322. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 29 Dec 1299 to 10 Oct 1325. Keeper of Odiham Castle. Keeper of the Peace in Hampshire in 1316.

John married Isabel de Courtenay. Isabel (daughter of Hugh de Courtenay and Eleanor le Despenser) died after 12 Feb 1333. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Knight of the shire for Wiltshire.

Hugh married Joan de Belauney. Joan (daughter of Baldwin de Belauney) died before 20 Jun 1329. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Iseult. Iseult died after 18 May 1324. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Richard de Arundel. Earl of Arundel.

From Complete Peerage, 1:240-41:

Richard fitz Alan, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 3 February 1266/7, and was only 5 years old at his father's death. He had seizin of his lands 8 December 1287. According to Glover he was created Earl of Sussex (a) in 1289, when he was knighted and "received the sword of the county of Sussex" from Edward I "ut vocatur Comes;", but it seems more probable that this creation was as Earl of Arundel (b). At all events no more is heard of the former title (Sussex) as connected with this family, but only of the title of Arundel. On 12 February 1290/1 there is a grant to him as Richard Arundel, Earl of Arundel. In October 1292 he was summoned by a writ directed to the Earl of Arundel, and was summoned to Parliament 24 June 1295, by a writ directed Ricardo filio Alani Comiti Arundell, ranking him as junior to all the other Earls. He fought in the Welsh wars 1288, in Gascony 1295-7, and in the Scottish wars 1298-1300, being present at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300. He signed the Barons' letter to the Pope, 12 February 1300/1.

(a) "The Earldom of Sussex must at this period have been a subject of contention between the De Warrens and Fitz Alans, for John de Warren, Earl of Surrey, was receiving, at the very time that this investiture occurred, writs directed to him as Earl of Sussex. John de Warren was perhaps the greatest noble of the time in which he lived, and his power and influence may have operated to induce Fitz Alan to abandon his claim upon the Earldom of Sussex and to adopt that [i.e. the Earldom of Arundel] by which his descendants have ever since been known." (Courthope, p. 29).

(b) It is worthy of remark, in connection with the very doubtful right, either of his father or grandfather, to the Earldom of Arundel, that it was not till 1282, viz. sometime after their death and during this Earl's minority, that Isabel, Countess of Arundel, widow of Hugh (d'Aubigny), died. It would almost appear (possibly owing to the largess of her dower) that the Earldom was not dealt with during her lifetime. A somewhat parallel case occurs, later on, in the same family, when Richard, Earl of Arundel, who, in 1347, had suc. his maternal uncle the Earl of Surrey, did not assume the Earldom of Surrey till the death of Joan, widow of the afsd. Earl, in 1361.

Richard married Alice di Saluzzo in Nov 1282. Alice (daughter of Tomasso di Saluzzo and Aluigia del Vasto) was born in of Saluzzo, Cuneo, Piedmont, Italy; died on 25 Sep 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Alasia di Saluzzo; Alasia del Vasto di Saluzzo.

"Along with her aunt Alasia de Saluzzo who married Edmund de Lacy, 2nd earl of Lincoln, in 1247, Alasia was one of the first Italian women to marry into an English noble family. Her marriage had been arranged by the late King Henry III's widowed queen consort Eleanor de Provence." [Leo van de Pas]

CP has her buried at Todingham Priory, but Chris Phillips's compilation of corrections to CP includes Douglas Richardson's note in Jan 2002 that "the bodies of both Richard and Alesia were at Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, by 1341, when provision was made for 12 candles to burn in the church of Haughmond around their tombs."

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• Alternate birth: 15 Jan 1256, of Bromfield, Denbighshire, Wales
• Alternate death: 15 Dec 1286, Croydon, Surrey, England

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Killed at a tournament; said to have been ambushed and slain by rivals.

William married Joan de Vere in 1284. Joan (daughter of Robert de Vere and Alice de Sanford) died about 23 Nov 1293; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef 24 Nov 1293

Luke married Hawise. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Sep 1304

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Active in the French and Scottish wars. A retainer of Henry de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln, at Carlaverock.

Summoned to Parliament by writ 6 Feb 1299 to 2 Jun 1302.

Hugh married Isabel Aguillon before 1282. Isabel (daughter of Robert Aguillon and Joan de Ferrers) was born on 25 Mar 1258 in of Addington, Surrey, England; died before 28 May 1323. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef 28 May 1325

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• Alternate death: Bef 26 Feb 1296

Bertram married Eleanor de Crevecoeur. Eleanor (daughter of Hamo de Crevecoeur and Maud d'Avranches) died in 1301. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef 17 Nov 1301

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"Lieutenant of Aquitaine, 12 July 1293, being then a knight, and Seneschal of Aquitaine, 1294, during the wars of Edward I. He was captured by the French, 1296/7, and upon his return in 1297 was summoned for military service in Flanders. From 1298 until his death he was engaged in military operations in Scotland, including the siege of Caerlaverock in July 1300, being then a knight banneret." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

John married Agnes Fitz Reynold before 29 Jun 1256. Agnes (daughter of Reynold fitz Peter and Alice de Stanford) died after 1305. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Alice FitzPiers.

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• Alternate birth: 25 Mar 1249

Hugh married Eleanor le Despenser. Eleanor (daughter of Hugh le Despenser and Aline Basset) died on 30 Sep 1328 in London, England; was buried in Cowick Priory, Exeter, Devon, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef 10 Feb 1282

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Or Baldwin le Wake.

Baldwin married Hawise de Quincy before 5 Feb 1268. Hawise (daughter of Robert de Quincy and Ellen of Wales) was born about 1250; died before 27 Mar 1285. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: 1253

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He was summoned to Parliament from 26 Sep 1299 to 12 Dec 1309, by writs variously addressed Johanni Lestraunge de Knokyn and Johanni Extranea.

John married Eleanor de Mont between 13 Oct 1275 and 1 Jun 1276. Eleanor (daughter of Ebal de Mont and Joan de Bohun) died before 14 Aug 1282. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Or des Monts, de Montz.

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• Alternate birth: 14 Sep 1246, of Clun, Shropshire, England

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Chief Butler of England.

"John Fitz Alan, feudal lord of Clun and Oswestry, and (according to the admission of 1433 abovenamed) Earl of Arundel, only s. and h., b. 14 Sep. 1246. He did homage for his estates 10 Dec. 1267. He, also (as Courthope remarks), though '22 years at his father's decease, was never known as Earl of Arundel, and it is incredible that, if he had ever borne that title, as annexed to the Castle and Honour, the fact would have been omitted in the inquisition which finds him to have died seized (1272), 56 Hen. III, of that Castle and Honour held by the 4th part of a Barony.' He m. Isabel, da. of Roger de Mortimer, of Wigmore, by Maud, da and coh. of William de Briouze, of Brecknock. He d. 18 Mar. 1271/2, and was bur. in Haughmond Abbey, Salop." [Complete Peerage I:240]

John married Isabella de Mortimer before 14 May 1260. Isabella (daughter of Roger de Mortimer and Maud de Briouze) died before 1 Apr 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Complete Peerage volume I contains some misinformation about this Isabella. Kathryn Warner has shown that rather than being alive in 1300, she died before 1 Apr 1292. This is in fact corrected in CP volume XIV. Uncorrected, however, is its confused account of her subsequent marital history. Douglas Richardson, in a 2016 post to SGM, demonstrated that contrary to CP, she did not marry Ralph d'Arderne after the death of her first husband John fitz Alan; rather, the Isabel who married Ralph d'Arderne was the widow of an entirely different John Fitz Alan, of Wolverton, Buckinghamshire. Our Isabel "occurs in various records as the unmarried widow of John Fitz Alan, of Arundel, from the time of his death in 1272 up through 1284-5, when she is on record as having presented to Cold Norton Priory, Oxfordshire. She subsequently married (2nd) on 2 September 1285, to Robert de Hastang, as indicated by the historian, Scott Waugh, Lordship of England (1988): 131-132, who states as follows: 'It turned out that Henry III had granted the right of her [Isabel's] marriage to her father, that after he died his executors accepted her fine for the right to marry whomever she pleased, and that she had married Robert de Hastang on 2 September 1285.'"

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1240, of Saluzzo, Cuneo, Piedmont, Italy
• Alternate birth: 1244
• Alternate death: 1299

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Fourth marquis of Saluzzo. "Built a great palace for his family in 1270. In the battle of Roccavione in 1275 he caused Charles d'Anjou to lose Piedmont; fought Savoy in 1290." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

Tomasso married Aluigia del Vasto in 1258. Aluigia (daughter of Giorgio del Vasto and Menzia) died on 22 Aug 1291. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Aluyisia; Aloisia; Luisia; Luigia; Alusia di Ceva.

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• Alternate death: Abt 1305

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Earl of Surrey. Constable of Bamburgh, Hope, and Pevensey Castles; Warden of the Maritime Ports of Surrey and Sussex 1295. Commander of the army at the battle of Stirling, where he was defeated by the Scots. Present at the siege of Caerlaverock.

"John de Warenne, 6th Earl of Surrey (1231 – c. 29 September 1304) was a prominent English nobleman and military commander during the reigns of Henry III of England and Edward I of England. During the Second Barons' War he switched sides twice, ending up in support of the king, for whose capture he was present at Lewes in 1264. Warenne was later appointed a Guardian of Scotland and featured prominently in Edward I's wars in Scotland." [Wikipedia]

"In July 1270 he quarreled in Westminster Hall with Alan la Zouche, Knt. and attacked him so violently that he died on 10 August following, his son escaping with difficulty. The earl fled to his castle at Reigate, Surrey, pursued by Prince Edward, and begged for mercy. On 4 Aug 1270 he was pardoned upon his agreeing to pay a substantial sum to the king." [Royal Ancestry]

John married Alice de Lusignan in Aug 1247. Alice (daughter of Hugh X de Lusignan and Isabel of Angoulême, Queen Consort of England) died on 9 Feb 1256; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 2 Feb 1266, Warren, Sussex, England

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Also called Alfais, Alix de Lusignan.

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Earl of Oxford. His heart was buried at Grey Friars Abbey, Ipswich.

"He joined the rebellion of Simon de Montfort and was knighted by him before the battle of Lewes, 14 May 1264. He was captured at the battle of Kenilworth, 31 July 1265 and later released." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

Robert married Alice de Sanford before 22 Feb 1252. Alice (daughter of Gilbert de Sanford and Lorette la Zouche) died before 9 Sep 1312 in Canfield, Essex, England; was buried in Earl's Colne Priory, Halstead, Great Bromley, Essex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 7 Sep 1312