Robert de Quincy

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• Alternate birth: of Buckby, Northamptonshire, England
• Alternate death: Bef 29 Sep 1197
• Alternate death: Bef 1208

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Or de Quency. [Royal Ancestry] Justiciar of Scotland; Crusader.

Robert married Orabel fitz Ness before 1155, and was divorced before 1174. Orabel (daughter of Ness fitz William) died before 30 Jun 1203. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Saher de Quincy was born in 1155 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; died on 3 Nov 1219 in Damietta, Egypt; was buried in Acre, Palestine.

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• Alternate birth: of Daventry, Northamptonshire, England

Saher married Maud de Senlis after 1136. Maud (daughter of Simon I de Senlis and Maud of Northumberland) was born about 1092; died after 1158. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 1140
• Alternate death: Between 1158 and 1163
• Alternate death: Bef 1165

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Also called Maud de St. Liz.

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• Alternate death: Bef 1113, La Charite-sur-Loire, Nievre, France

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Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton, jure uxoris. "Went to Jerusalem cruce signatus, and returned safely, but, setting out again, d. at the Abbey of La Cherité-sur-Loire, in France, circa 1111." [The Wallop Family, citation details below.]

From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

Senlis, Simon (I) de [Simon de St Liz], earl of Northampton and earl of Huntingdon (d. 1111x13), magnate, was the third son of Landri de Senlis, lord of Chantilly and Ermenonville, and a lady Ermengarde. The derivation St Liz (de sancto Licio) appears to be an attempted etymology for Senlis (Silva necta). His elder brother Guy de Senlis (d. 1124), a generous benefactor to Notre Dame de Senlis and St Martin des Champs, inherited the patrimony, his sons becoming prominent supporters of the Capetian kings, with three in succession holding the title of grand butler of France. Another brother, Hubert, became a canon of Notre Dame, Paris. Both the foundation charter of Sawtry Abbey, founded by his son Simon (II) de Senlis (d. 1153), and the late register of St Andrew's Priory, Northampton, believed Simon (I) to have come to England in 1066 and to have been patronized by William I; but his absence from Domesday Book (1086) suggests that his arrival, or at least his endowment, took place under William Rufus. [...]

According to the De comitissa, Simon de Senlis made a successful pilgrimage to Jerusalem. This was almost certainly after the first crusade, for Suger notes that Simon was captured during William Rufus's Vexin campaign of 1098 against the Capetian heir-apparent, Louis, and subsequently ransomed. Earl Simon witnessed Henry I's charter of liberties issued at his coronation on 5 August 1100 and may have accompanied Henry on his campaign against Robert de Bellême's castle at Tickhill in 1102. He attests royal charters in England from 1100 to 1103, in 1106 and 1107, and in 1109 and 1110.

At Northampton Earl Simon probably constructed the first castle and walled the considerable settlement that had expanded beyond the earlier defences. Although the earliest surviving fabric of the round church of the Holy Sepulchre in Northampton dates to the second quarter of the twelfth century, it is possible that its foundation was inspired by Simon's pilgrimage. Here he also founded the church of All Saints and the Cluniac priory of St Andrew (between 1093 and 1100) as a dependency of La Charité-sur-Loire. When Hugh of Leicester, steward of Countess Maud, established monks of La Charité at Preston Capes (c. 1090) in emulation of his lord, Earl Simon granted them the endowments of the secular college at Daventry to which they subsequently moved (between 1107 and 1108). The earl also made grants to Lincoln Cathedral.

Simon de Senlis embarked on a second journey east, but died at La Charité, 'the eldest daughter of Cluny', and was buried there in the great new priory church. It is possible that his body was subsequently moved to the priory of St Neots, which he had patronized. The date of his death is uncertain. He attests a grant of Henry I to Bath Abbey on 8 August 1111 at Bishop's Waltham, as the king was crossing to Normandy, and this may mark the earl's own outward voyage. By midsummer 1113, however, David of Scotland was recognized as earl of Huntingdon, marrying Simon's widow, Maud, although the earldom of Northampton reverted to the crown.

Simon married Maud of Northumberland before 1091. Maud (daughter of Waltheof and Judith of Lens) was born about 1072; died between 1130 and 1131; was buried in Scone, Perthshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 1130
• Alternate death: 1131
• Alternate death: Bef 1132

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Also called Maud of Huntingdon.

Landri married Ermengarde. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 31 May 1075, Winchester, Hampshire, England

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Earl of Northumberland.

"He was present at the marriage of Ralph de Wader at Exning, Cambridgeshire, where the guests entered into a conspiracy against the king. In this he was to some slight extent implicated, but acting on the advice of Archbishop Lanfranc, he crossed over to Normandy to the king, and disclosed the matter to him. The conspiracy having been crushed, the king kept Walthoef with him. But he was accused by his wife, Judith, of more than a mere knowledge of the plot. After a year's deliberation, during which he was imprisoned at Winchester, Waltheof was executed at Winchester, Hampshire 31 May 1075 (or 1076). Two weeks afterward the king allowed his body to be removed to Croyland Abbey, Lincolnshire, where the abbot buried him in the chapterhouse; his remains were subsequently translated into the church near the altar. At an unknown date, Judith was granted the manor of Elstow, Bedfordshire by her uncle, King William the Conqueror. Sometime prior to 1086, she founded a nunnery at Elstow and endowed it with her will." [Royal Ancestry]

Waltheof married Judith of Lens after Jan 1070. Judith (daughter of Lambert II of Boulogne and Alice of Normandy) was born about 1054; died after 1086. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1052
• Alternate death: Abt 1090

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AR8 says (in a note to 148:22) that, contrary to what was stated in previous editions, Judith was "Adelaide's child by her first marriage to Enguerrand II", but Stewart Baldwin, in the Henry Project's discussion of the three marriages of William I's sister Adelaide, assembles a convincing argument that Judith was a daughter of Lambert of Lens after all. A 19 Nov 2009 post to SGM by John P. Ravilious adds further evidence for the identification of Lambert as her father.

To be fair, Peter Stewart is unconvinced.