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Joan de Venables

Female Abt 1330 - Aft 1397  (~ 67 years)


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  • Name Joan de Venables  [1
    Birth Abt 1330  Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Female 
    Death Aft 18 Aug 1397  [3
    Alternate death Aft 1400  [4
    Siblings 1 sibling 
    Person ID I18920  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TSW
    Last Modified 13 Sep 2021 

    Father Hugh de Venables,   b. of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Between 1367 and 1368 
    Mother Katherine de Hoghton,   b. of Houghton, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft Nov 1367 
    Family ID F4909  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Thomas de Lathom,   b. of Lathom, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 20 Mar 1382 
    Children 
    +1. Isabel Lathom   d. 26 Oct 1414
    Family ID F11733  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 10 Nov 2017 

  • Notes 
    • "[Sir Thomas de Lathom's] 2nd wife, Joan Venables, was a notorious character who is said to have neglected and abused her husband while he lay dying, to have lived openly in the same house with her lover, Roger Fazakerley, and married him after consigning Sir Thomas to a speedy burial without ceremony or mourners." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

      The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz places her a a daughter of Hugh de Venables (d. 1310) and Agatha de Vernon, but Royal Ancestry (v. 5, p. 25) places her as a daughter of his son, as we show her here.

  • Sources 
    1. [S413] Genealogy Page of John Blythe Dobson.

    2. [S812] The Victoria County History of Lancaster. Portions online, linked from medievalgenealogy.org.uk.

    3. [S142] Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. Salt Lake City, 2013.

    4. [S1526] The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Wife of Reverend John Owsley, Generations 1-15, Fourth Preliminary Edition, by Ronny O. Bodine and Bro. Thomas Spalding, Jr. 2013.