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Isabel de Vermandois

Female - Bef 1147


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  • Name Isabel de Vermandois  [1, 2, 3
    Gender Female 
    Died Bef Jun 1147  [4
    Alternate death Bef Jul 1147  [5, 6
    Person ID I2053  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LDN, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 30 Sep 2020 

    Father Hugues le Grand,   b. Abt 1057,   d. 18 Oct 1101, Tarsus, Cilicia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 44 years) 
    Mother Adèle de Vermandois,   d. 1120 
    Married Abt 1080  [4, 7
    Family ID F2751  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Robert of Meulan,   b. Abt 1046, Beaumont-le-Roger, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Jun 1118  (Age ~ 72 years) 
    Married 1096  [4, 5, 8
    Children 
    +1. Isabel de Beaumont,   d. Aft 1172
    +2. Maud of Meulan,   d. Aft 1189
    +3. Waleran,   b. 1104,   d. 9 Apr 1166, Abbey St. Pierre, Preaux, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 62 years)
    +4. Robert of Meulan,   b. 1104, Meulan, Ile-de-France, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Apr 1168  (Age 64 years)
    Last Modified 28 Aug 2020 
    Family ID F1788  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 William II de Warenne,   b. Abt 1071,   d. 11 May 1138  (Age ~ 67 years) 
    Married Aft 5 Jun 1118  [4, 5, 9
    Children 
    +1. Gundred de Warenne,   d. Aft 1156
    +2. Ada de Warenne,   d. 1178
    +3. William III de Warenne,   b. Abt 1119, Warwick, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 7 Jan 1148, Laodicea, Anatolia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 29 years)
    +4. Reynold de Warenne,   b. Abt 1126, of Attlebridge, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1179, Lewes Priory, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 54 years)
    Last Modified 11 Mar 2017 
    Family ID F4959  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Countess of Leicester. Also called Elizabeth de Vermandois.

      Royal Ancestry says she was living c. 1138 and that she died "13 (or 17) February, sometime before June 1147, when her son, William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey, left on crusade." Several sources say she died in the priory of Lewes, Sussex.

      Via her two husbands and thirteen children, descent from her is so common among modern people with traceable medieval ancestry that Douglas Richardson once jokingly asserted the existence of an exclusive lineage organization called the Society of Non-Descendants of Isabel de Vermandois. Of the nine root people in this database with demonstrable descent from a monarch, only two would be eligible for membership in such a group.

  • Sources 
    1. [S341] Nathaniel L. Taylor, "Cassandra Elizabeth Taylor's royal descents.".

    2. [S4384] George Eldridge, Hydrographer, and Eliza Jane His Wife: Their Ancestors and Their Descendants by Henry James Young. Carlisle, Pennsylvania: 1982.

    3. [S4342] Norfolk Families by Walter Rye. Two volumes, 1911-13.

    4. [S142] Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson. Kimball G. Everingham, editor. 2013.

    5. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Full citation details here.

    6. [S1016] Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell by Carl Boyer III. Santa Clarita, California, 2001.

    7. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008., "bef. 1080", elsewhere "aft. 1067".

    8. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.

    9. [S1016] Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell by Carl Boyer III. Santa Clarita, California, 2001., year only.