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George Gyles

Male Bef 1815 - Bef 1854  (< 38 years)


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  • Name George Gyles 
    Born Bef 24 Nov 1815  St. Ives, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Baptised 24 Nov 1815  St. Ives, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Died Bef Sep 1854  Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Person ID I4786  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of PNH
    Last Modified 16 May 2020 

    Father John Gyles,   b. 20 May 1791, St. Ives, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Mary Thomas,   b. Bef 6 Jun 1791, St. Ives, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between 1 Jul 1874 and 30 Sep 1874  (Age > 83 years) 
    Married 6 Feb 1810  St. Ives, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Notes 
    • Witnesses: Edward Richards, John Shugg Trevorrow.
    Family ID F7759  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Ann Curnow Hodge,   b. Bef 31 May 1816, St. Ives, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Aug 1895, Penzance, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 79 years) 
    Married 29 Jul 1841  St. Ives, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Notes 
    • Witnesses: Lewis Hodge, Thomas Williams.
    Children 
    +1. Thomas Gyles,   b. 5 Jul 1850, Penzance, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Dec 1926, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2019 
    Family ID F7018  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Described on his marriage record as "bachelor" and "mariner." Could sign his own name.

      Described on his son Thomas's 1873 marriage record as "master mariner."

      On 19 Aug 1846 he was a witness to the marriage of Matthew Veal, son of Matthew Veal, fisherman, to Catherine Gyles, daughter of John Gyles, mariner. Notable since after his death, his widow also married a Veal.

      It's notable that he was baptized in the C of E, but his son Thomas (and Thomas's wife Mary Edwards) were both baptized as Primitive Methodists.

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      He is shown on some sites as a son of John Gyles and Johanna Harry, presumably the Joanna Harry recorded as baptised 14 Aug 1786 in St. Ives, daughter of John and Joanna.

      And it's true that the John Gyles who married Johanna Harry in St. Ives on 23 Jul 1810 is identified as a "mariner," just as George Gyles is on his own marriage record, which makes it reasonable to suppose that this John and Johanna were the parents of George.

      But our George Gyles was recorded as "of full age" when he married Ann Curnow Hodge in 1841. Therefore he has to have been born no later than 1820. The only two George Gyleses recorded baptised in St. Ives between 1800 and 1820, one on 20 Jan 1811 and one on 24 Nov 1815, are both given on their baptismal records as sons of a John and a Mary. (On the baptismal record of the latter George Gyles, the father John is identified as a cooper.)

      And a search for marriages in St. Ives between 1790 and 1814 involving a groom named John Gyles or Giles yields two marriages, both in 1810. One is the marriage of a John Gyles to Johanna Harry mentioned above. The other, 6 Feb 1810, is John Gyles, "bachelor", married by banns to Mary Thomas, "spinster". Witnesses John Shugg Trevorrow, Edward Richards.

      Moreover, the only John Gyles or Giles recorded as baptised in St. Ives between 1780 and 1795 is John Gyles, son of Richard and Elisabeth, baptised 19 Oct 1791. Aged 18 on 6 Feb 1810, he would have been eligible to marry by banns provided that neither his nor the bride's parents objected.

      The only way the George Gyles who married Ann Curnow Hodge could have been a son of Johanna or Joanna Harry is if he was neither the George Gyles baptised in St. Ives on 24 Nov 1815, nor the individual of the same name baptised there on 20 Jan 1811. And while absence is not proof, there are, again, no other Georges Gyles recorded baptised in St. Ives between 1800 and 1820.

  • Sources 
    1. [S298] Cornwall Online Parish Clerks Database.

    2. [S297] England & Wales, FreeBMD birth, marriage, and death indexes, 1837-1915, on ancestry.com.