Nielsen Hayden genealogy
Isabel
Abt 1374 - Aft 1421 (~ 48 years)-
Name Isabel [1, 2, 3] Birth Abt 1374 [4] Gender Female Death Aft 1421 [5] Person ID I15551 Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LD Last Modified 13 Dec 2022
Family 1 John Paveley d. Bef 7 Jan 1394 Marriage 1387 [5] Family ID F9798 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 13 Dec 2022
Family 2 John St. John, b. of Fonmon, Glamorgan, Wales d. Aft 1421 Marriage Aft 8 Feb 1395 [4] Children + 1. Oliver St. John, b. Abt 1398, of Fonmon, Glamorgan, Wales d. 1437, Gloucestershire, England (Age ~ 39 years) Family ID F9797 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 13 Dec 2022
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Notes - Richardson and Stallard (citation details below) both have her as Isabel Paveley, daughter of John Paveley of Northamptonshire, but this would seem to be disproved by the 21 Sep 1414 IPM of "Joan widow of John Paveley, Knight" which says that "On 8 Feb. 1395 Lewis de Clyfford, Richard Stury and Thomas Latymer, knights, Richard Dudley, John Warwyk and William Lane, chaplain, by their deed shown to the jurors, granted the manor and advowson of Paulerspury, which John Paveley, knight, had granted to them, to Joan his widow to hold to herself for her life and to her executors for 1 year more, without impeachment of waste and with remainder to themselves. This reversion they granted to Isabel, then wife of John Paveley junior, knight, and now the wife of John Seynt Johan, to hold to her and her heirs and assigns." So the Isabel that John St. John married was "Isabel Paveley" because of her prior marriage to the junior John Paveley, and her parentage is in fact unknown.
Colin Richmond, citation details below, provides much further detail confirming the above.
- Richardson and Stallard (citation details below) both have her as Isabel Paveley, daughter of John Paveley of Northamptonshire, but this would seem to be disproved by the 21 Sep 1414 IPM of "Joan widow of John Paveley, Knight" which says that "On 8 Feb. 1395 Lewis de Clyfford, Richard Stury and Thomas Latymer, knights, Richard Dudley, John Warwyk and William Lane, chaplain, by their deed shown to the jurors, granted the manor and advowson of Paulerspury, which John Paveley, knight, had granted to them, to Joan his widow to hold to herself for her life and to her executors for 1 year more, without impeachment of waste and with remainder to themselves. This reversion they granted to Isabel, then wife of John Paveley junior, knight, and now the wife of John Seynt Johan, to hold to her and her heirs and assigns." So the Isabel that John St. John married was "Isabel Paveley" because of her prior marriage to the junior John Paveley, and her parentage is in fact unknown.
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Sources - [S142] Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. Salt Lake City, 2013.
- [S3498] Butler of Droitwich by Jon M. Stallard. Richmond, Virginia, 2004.
- [S3954] The Visitations of Bedfordshire, Annis Domini 1566, 1582, and 1634 ed. Frederic Augustus Blaydes. Harleian Society volume 21. London, 1884., calls her "Elizabeth".
- [S6752] IPM, 19 Feb 1414, of "Joan widow of John Paveley, Knight".
- [S6753] Colin Richmond, "Sir John Fastolf and the Land Market: An Enquiry of the Early 1430s." In East Anglia's History: Studies in Honour of Norman Scarfe ed. Christopher Harper-Bill, Carole Rawcliffe, and Richard G. Wilson. Woodbridge, UK: The Boydell Press, 2002.
- [S142] Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. Salt Lake City, 2013.