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John Fitz Alan

Male - Bef 1240


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John Fitz Alan was born in of Clun, Shropshire, England; died before 15 Mar 1240.

    John married Isabel d'Aubigny before 1223. Isabel (daughter of William d'Aubigny and Mabel of Chester) died before 1240. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. John Fitz Alan  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1223 in of Clun, Shropshire, England; died before 10 Nov 1267.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John Fitz Alan Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1223 in of Clun, Shropshire, England; died before 10 Nov 1267.

    Notes:

    "John Fitz Alan, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry, Salop, s. and h. of John Fitz Alan of the same, by his 1st wife, Isabel, 2nd sister and, in her issue, coh. of Hugh, and da. of William (d'Aubigny), Earls of Sussex, &c, abovenamed, suc. his father (whom his mother had predeceased) in 1240. To him, by writ dat. 27 Nov. 1243, was awarded (in right of his deceased mother) the Castle and Honour of Arundel, whereby (according to the admission of 1433 abovenamed) he must be regarded as de jure Earl of Arundel. He obtained possession, 26 May 1244, of his paternal estates in Salop on payment of £1000. By the title, however, of Earl of Arundel he never appears to have been known (either in his lifetime or afterwards), although he lived 24 years after the acquisition of that Castle and Honour. In an award dat. Friday after the Circumcision 1258, he is expressly called Dominus de Arundel (i.e. Lord of the Honour of Arundel), and in the Fine Roll, 10 Mar. 1261/2, he is called Baro noster, while in his Inq. p. m. he is described (merely) as Johannes filius Alani, and the endorsement says that he held a quarter of the Earldom of Arundel. He took part in the Welsh war 1258, and, though sometimes leagued with the Barons against the Crown, was, while fighting on the Royal side, taken prisoner at the battle of Lewes, in 1264, together with the King. He m. Maud, da. of Theobald le Botiller, by his 2nd wife, Rohese, da. and h. of Nicholas de Verdun, of Alton, co. Stafford. He d. 1267, before 10 Nov. Will dat. Oct. 1267. His widow m. Richard d'Amundeville, and d. 27 Nov. 1283. He was living 1286/7." [Complete Peerage I:239-40, as corrected by Volume XIV.]

    John married Maud de Verdun before 1240. Maud (daughter of Theobald le Boteler and Rohese de Verdun) died on 27 Nov 1283. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. John Fitz Alan  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 Sep 1246 in of Arundel, Sussex, England; died on 18 Mar 1272; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  John Fitz Alan Descendancy chart to this point (2.John2, 1.John1) was born on 14 Sep 1246 in of Arundel, Sussex, England; died on 18 Mar 1272; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 14 Sep 1246, of Clun, Shropshire, England

    Notes:

    Chief Butler of England.

    "John Fitz Alan, feudal lord of Clun and Oswestry, and (according to the admission of 1433 abovenamed) Earl of Arundel, only s. and h., b. 14 Sep. 1246. He did homage for his estates 10 Dec. 1267. He, also (as Courthope remarks), though '22 years at his father's decease, was never known as Earl of Arundel, and it is incredible that, if he had ever borne that title, as annexed to the Castle and Honour, the fact would have been omitted in the inquisition which finds him to have died seized (1272), 56 Hen. III, of that Castle and Honour held by the 4th part of a Barony.' He m. Isabel, da. of Roger de Mortimer, of Wigmore, by Maud, da and coh. of William de Briouze, of Brecknock. He d. 18 Mar. 1271/2, and was bur. in Haughmond Abbey, Salop." [Complete Peerage I:240]

    John married Isabella de Mortimer before 14 May 1260. Isabella (daughter of Roger de Mortimer and Maud de Briouze) died before 1 Apr 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Maud Fitz Alan  Descendancy chart to this point died before 17 Nov 1326.
    2. 5. Richard Fitz Alan  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 3 Feb 1267 in of Arundel, Sussex, England; died on 9 Mar 1302; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  Maud Fitz Alan Descendancy chart to this point (3.John3, 2.John2, 1.John1) died before 17 Nov 1326.

    Maud married Philip Burnell before 5 Jun 1283. Philip (son of Hugh Burnell and Sibyl) was born on 1 Aug 1264 in of Holgate, Shropshire, England; died on 26 Jun 1294; was buried in Whitefriars, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Maud Burnell  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1290 and 1294; died before 1338.

  2. 5.  Richard Fitz Alan Descendancy chart to this point (3.John3, 2.John2, 1.John1) was born on 3 Feb 1267 in of Arundel, Sussex, England; died on 9 Mar 1302; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Richard de Arundel. Earl of Arundel.

    From Complete Peerage, 1:240-41:

    Richard fitz Alan, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 3 February 1266/7, and was only 5 years old at his father's death. He had seizin of his lands 8 December 1287. According to Glover he was created Earl of Sussex (a) in 1289, when he was knighted and "received the sword of the county of Sussex" from Edward I "ut vocatur Comes;", but it seems more probable that this creation was as Earl of Arundel (b). At all events no more is heard of the former title (Sussex) as connected with this family, but only of the title of Arundel. On 12 February 1290/1 there is a grant to him as Richard Arundel, Earl of Arundel. In October 1292 he was summoned by a writ directed to the Earl of Arundel, and was summoned to Parliament 24 June 1295, by a writ directed Ricardo filio Alani Comiti Arundell, ranking him as junior to all the other Earls. He fought in the Welsh wars 1288, in Gascony 1295-7, and in the Scottish wars 1298-1300, being present at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300. He signed the Barons' letter to the Pope, 12 February 1300/1.

    (a) "The Earldom of Sussex must at this period have been a subject of contention between the De Warrens and Fitz Alans, for John de Warren, Earl of Surrey, was receiving, at the very time that this investiture occurred, writs directed to him as Earl of Sussex. John de Warren was perhaps the greatest noble of the time in which he lived, and his power and influence may have operated to induce Fitz Alan to abandon his claim upon the Earldom of Sussex and to adopt that [i.e. the Earldom of Arundel] by which his descendants have ever since been known." (Courthope, p. 29).

    (b) It is worthy of remark, in connection with the very doubtful right, either of his father or grandfather, to the Earldom of Arundel, that it was not till 1282, viz. sometime after their death and during this Earl's minority, that Isabel, Countess of Arundel, widow of Hugh (d'Aubigny), died. It would almost appear (possibly owing to the largess of her dower) that the Earldom was not dealt with during her lifetime. A somewhat parallel case occurs, later on, in the same family, when Richard, Earl of Arundel, who, in 1347, had suc. his maternal uncle the Earl of Surrey, did not assume the Earldom of Surrey till the death of Joan, widow of the afsd. Earl, in 1361.

    Richard married Alice di Saluzzo in Nov 1282. Alice (daughter of Tomasso di Saluzzo and Aluigia del Vasto) was born in of Saluzzo, Cuneo, Piedmont, Italy; died on 25 Sep 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Alice de Arundel  Descendancy chart to this point died after 12 Dec 1325.
    2. 8. Margaret de Arundel  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1354.
    3. 9. Eleanor de Arundel  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1284 in Arundel, Sussex, England; died in 1328; was buried in Beverley, Yorkshire, England.
    4. 10. Edmund Fitz Alan  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 May 1285 in Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire, Engand; died on 17 Nov 1326 in Hereford, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.