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Eremburge de la Flèche

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Eremburge de la Flèche died in 1126.

    Notes:

    Also called Ermengarde of Maine.

    Eremburge married Fulk V, King of Jerusalem in 1110. Fulk (son of Fulk IV "Le Rechin" and Bertrade de Montfort) was born between 1089-1092; died in 1142; was buried in Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Sibyl of Anjou  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1112; died in 1165.
    2. 3. Geoffrey V of Anjou  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Aug 1113; died on 7 Sep 1151 in Château-du-Loire, Pays-de-la-Loire, France; was buried in Le Mans Cathedral, Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays-de-la-Loire, France.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Sibyl of Anjou Descendancy chart to this point (1.Eremburge1) was born in 1112; died in 1165.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 1116

    Sibyl married William Clito in 1123. William (son of Robert Curthose and Sibyl of Conversano) was born on 25 Oct 1102 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandy, France; died on 28 Jul 1128; was buried in Abbey of Saint-Bertin, Saint-Omer, Pas-de-Calais, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Sibyl married Thierri III of Lorraine in 1131. Thierri (son of Thierri II of Lorraine and Gertrude of Flanders) was born about 1098; died on 17 Jan 1168. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Mathieu of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1138; died on 25 Jul 1173 in Driencourt, Somme, Picardy, France.
    2. 5. Marguerite of Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1140 and 1145; died on 12 Nov 1194.
    3. 6. Guy I  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1140; died in 1176.

  2. 3.  Geoffrey V of Anjou Descendancy chart to this point (1.Eremburge1) was born on 24 Aug 1113; died on 7 Sep 1151 in Château-du-Loire, Pays-de-la-Loire, France; was buried in Le Mans Cathedral, Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays-de-la-Loire, France.

    Notes:

    Count of Anjou.

    Also called Geoffrey Plantagenet; Geoffrey "le Bel".

    Royal Ancestry, Wikipedia, and most notably the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography all say he married the Empress Matilda in Le Mans. The Henry Project says the wedding took place in Worcester, citing L. C. Bethemann, ed., Roberti de Monte Chronica (a continuation by Robert de Torigni of the chronicle of Sigebert de Gembloux).

    Family/Spouse: (Unknown mistress of Geoffrey of Anjou). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Hamelin of Anjou  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Lewes, Sussex, England; died on 7 May 1202; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Geoffrey married Maud "The Empress" on 22 May 1128 in Le Mans Cathedral, Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays-de-la-Loire, France. Maud (daughter of Henry I, King of England and Matilda of Scotland, Queen Consort of England) was born about 8 Feb 1102 in London, England; died on 10 Sep 1167 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandy, France; was buried in Abbey of Bec, Eure, Normandy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Henry II, King of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 Mar 1133 in Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays-de-la-Loire, France; died on 6 Jul 1189 in Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Mathieu of Flanders Descendancy chart to this point (2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born about 1138; died on 25 Jul 1173 in Driencourt, Somme, Picardy, France.

    Notes:

    Count of Boulogne. Also called Matthew d'Alsace.

    Killed at the Siege of Driencourt.

    Mathieu married Marie of England in 1160. Marie (daughter of Stephen of Blois, King Of England and Maud of Boulogne, Queen Consort of England) was born in 1136; died in 1182 in Monastery of Sainte-Austreberthe, Montreuil, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. Ida of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point died in 1216.
    2. 10. Machtild of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1169; died between 1210 and 1211; was buried in Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium.

  2. 5.  Marguerite of Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born between 1140 and 1145; died on 12 Nov 1194.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 17 Dec 1195

    Notes:

    Also called Marguerite of Flanders.

    Marguerite married Baldwin V of Flanders in Apr 1169. Baldwin (son of Baldwin IV of Hainaut and Alix de Namur) was born in 1150; died on 17 Dec 1195. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Isabella of Flanders, Queen Consort of France  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Apr 1170 in Valenciennes, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; died on 15 Mar 1190 in Paris, France; was buried in Cathedral of Notre Dame, Paris, France.
    2. 12. Baldwin I of Flanders, Latin Emperor of Constantinople  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Jul 1171; died on 11 Jul 1205.
    3. 13. Yolanda of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1175; died in Aug 1219.
    4. 14. Sybille de Hainaut  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1179; died in 1217.

  3. 6.  Guy I Descendancy chart to this point (2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in 1140; died in 1176.

    Notes:

    Also called Peter. Regent of Nevers.

    Guy married Mahaud of Burgundy about 1175. Mahaud (daughter of Raymond of Burgundy and Agnes de Thiern) died in 1192. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Sibylle  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1176; died after 1236.

  4. 7.  Hamelin of Anjou Descendancy chart to this point (3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in of Lewes, Sussex, England; died on 7 May 1202; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Notes:

    Earl of Surrey (jure uxoris). Vicomte of Touraine. Advocate of St. Bertin. "Half-brother of Henry II of England whom he supported during the revolt of his sons in 1173. Became 5th Earl of Surrey upon his marriage in 1164. In 1166 he was holding 60 knight's fees. Present at the coronation of Richard I, 1189, and John, 1199. During the absence of his nephew, Richard I on crusade, he upheld the government against the intrigues of his brother John. He and his wife were benefactors to many religious houses." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Sometimes called Hamelin de Warenne. Calling him "Hamelin Plantagenet" is an anachronistic back-formation.

    Hamelin married Isabel de Warenne in Apr 1164. Isabel (daughter of William III de Warenne and Ela of Ponthieu) died after Apr 1203; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. William de Warenne  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Lewes, Sussex, England; died on 27 May 1240 in London, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.
    2. 17. Ela de Warenne  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1240.

  5. 8.  Henry II, King of England Descendancy chart to this point (3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born on 5 Mar 1133 in Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays-de-la-Loire, France; died on 6 Jul 1189 in Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 4 Mar 1133, Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays-de-la-Loire, France

    Notes:

    Also called Henry Fitz Empress; Henry Fitz Geoffrey.

    Family/Spouse: Ida de Tony. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. William I Longespée  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1170; died about 1225; was buried in Salisbury Cathedral, Wiltshire, England.

    Henry married Eleanor of Aquitaine, Queen Consort of France; Queen Consort of England on 18 May 1152 in Bordeaux Cathedral, Bordeaux, Gironde, France. Eleanor (daughter of William X of Aquitaine and Aénor de Châtellerault) was born in 1122; died on 1 Apr 1204; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 19. William  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Aug 1153; died in 1156; was buried in Reading Abbey, Berkshire, England.
    2. 20. Henry the Young King, Titular King of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 28 Feb 1155; died on 11 Jun 1183 in Castle of Martel, Lot, France.
    3. 21. Matilda of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1156 in London, England; died on 13 Jul 1189.
    4. 22. Richard I, King of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 8 Sep 1157; died on 6 Apr 1199; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France.
    5. 23. Geoffrey  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Sep 1158; died on 19 Aug 1186; was buried in Paris, France.
    6. 24. Eleanor of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 13 Oct 1162 in Domfront, Normandy, France; died on 21 Sep 1214; was buried in Abbey of Santa María la Real de Las Huelgas, Burgos, Castile, Spain.
    7. 25. Joan  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Oct 1165; died in Sep 1199.
    8. 26. John, King of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 27 Dec 1166 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England; died on 19 Oct 1216 in Newark Castle, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried in Worcester Cathedral, Worcestershire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 9.  Ida of Flanders Descendancy chart to this point (4.Mathieu3, 2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) died in 1216.

    Notes:

    Countess of Boulogne.

    Ida married Berchtold IV von Zähringen in 1183. Berchtold (son of Konrad I of Zähringen and Burgundy and Clemence de Namur) was born about 1125; died on 8 Dec 1186. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 10.  Machtild of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (4.Mathieu3, 2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born about 1169; died between 1210 and 1211; was buried in Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 5 Aug 1224

    Notes:

    Also called Mahaud; Maud; Mathilde d'Alsace; Mathilde of Flanders.

    Machtild married Henri I of Brabant in 1179. Henri (son of Godfrey III and Margaret von Limburg) was born about 1158; died on 5 Sep 1235 in Koln, Germany; was buried in St. Peter's, Leuven, Belgium. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Margareta of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1192; died on 5 May 1231.
    2. 28. Aleidis of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1194; died before 1267.
    3. 29. Machteld of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1200; died on 21 Dec 1267.
    4. 30. Henri II of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1207; died on 1 Feb 1248.

  3. 11.  Isabella of Flanders, Queen Consort of France Descendancy chart to this point (5.Marguerite3, 2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born on 23 Apr 1170 in Valenciennes, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; died on 15 Mar 1190 in Paris, France; was buried in Cathedral of Notre Dame, Paris, France.

    Notes:

    Also called Isabella of Hainaut.

    Isabella married Philippe II Augustus, King of France on 28 Apr 1180 in Abbey of Saint-Trinité, Bapaume, Pas-de-Calais, France. Philippe (son of Louis VII, King of France and Adèle of Blois, Queen Consort of France) was born on 22 Aug 1165 in Gonesse, France; died on 14 Jul 1223 in Mantes la Jolie, Yvelines, Île-de-France, France; was buried in Abbey of Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. Louis VIII, King of France  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 3 Sep 1187 in Paris, France; died on 8 Nov 1226 in Castle of Montpensier, Puy-de-Dôme, France; was buried in Abbey of Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, France.

  4. 12.  Baldwin I of Flanders, Latin Emperor of Constantinople Descendancy chart to this point (5.Marguerite3, 2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in Jul 1171; died on 11 Jul 1205.

    Notes:

    "A leader of the Fourth Crusade, Apr 1202. Defeated at the battle of Adrianople, Mar 1205, by the forces of Kaloyan, Tsar of the Bulgars, he was taken prisoner and executed, though the circumstances of his death are not precisely known. The Byzantine historian George Acropolites reports that the Tsar Kaloyan had Baudouin's skull made into a drinking cup." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Baldwin married Marie of Champagne on 6 Jan 1186. Marie (daughter of Henry I of Champagne and Marie of France) was born about 1174; died on 9 Aug 1204. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 32. Margaret II of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1202; died on 10 Feb 1280; was buried in Abbey of Flines, Flines-lez-Raches, Hauts-de-France, France.

  5. 13.  Yolanda of Flanders Descendancy chart to this point (5.Marguerite3, 2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born about 1175; died in Aug 1219.

    Yolanda married Peter II of Courtenay, Emperor of Constantinople in Jun 1193. Peter (son of Pierre of France and Elisabeth de Courtenay) was born about 1155; died before Jan 1218. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 33. Yolanda of Courtenay, Queen Consort of Hungary  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1200; died in 1233.

  6. 14.  Sybille de Hainaut Descendancy chart to this point (5.Marguerite3, 2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in 1179; died in 1217.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1227

    Sybille married Guichard IV de Beaujeu in 1196. Guichard (son of Humbert IV de Beaujeu and Agnes de Thiern) died in 1216. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. Agnès de Beaujeu  Descendancy chart to this point died on 11 Jul 1231.
    2. 35. Humbert V de Beaujeu  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1198; died on 21 May 1250 in Syria.

  7. 15.  Sibylle Descendancy chart to this point (6.Guy3, 2.Sibyl2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in 1176; died after 1236.

    Notes:

    Heiress of St.Vaast, Lillers, and Vladslo. Also called Sibyl van Vlaanderen.

    Sibylle married Robert I de Wavrin before 1193. Robert (son of Hellin I de Wavrin and Tirsella d'Arras) died in 1215. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 36. Hellin II de Wavrin  Descendancy chart to this point died before 6 Mar 1223.

  8. 16.  William de Warenne Descendancy chart to this point (7.Hamelin3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in of Lewes, Sussex, England; died on 27 May 1240 in London, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Notes:

    Earl of Surrey. He was with John at Runnymede and advised him to assent to the Magna Carta.

    Warden of the Cinque Ports; a justiciar of England, 1230; custodian of Bamburgh and Knapp castles; King's Councillor; Sheriff of Surrey 1217-26.

    William married Maud Marshal, Marshal Of England before 13 Oct 1225. Maud (daughter of William Marshal and Isabel de Clare) was born in 1192; died on 27 Mar 1248; was buried in Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 37. John de Warenne  Descendancy chart to this point was born after Jul 1231; died about 29 Sep 1304 in Kennington, near London, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

  9. 17.  Ela de Warenne Descendancy chart to this point (7.Hamelin3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) died before 1240.

    Family/Spouse: William fitz William. William (son of William Fitz Godric and Aubrey de Lisours) was born in of Sprotborough, Yorkshire, England; died between 1219 and 23 Feb 1224. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 38. Ellen fitz William  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1261.
    2. 39. Denise Fitz William  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1285.
    3. 40. Thomas fitz William  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1195 and 1200 in of Sprotborough, Yorkshire, England; died before 17 Oct 1264.

  10. 18.  William I Longespée Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in 1170; died about 1225; was buried in Salisbury Cathedral, Wiltshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1175
    • Alternate birth: Between 1175 and 1180
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1176
    • Alternate death: 7 Mar 1226, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

    Notes:

    Earl of Salisbury. Among the advisors to King John at Runnymede.

    Lieutenant of Gascony 1202; Seneschal of Avranches 1203; Constable of Dover Castle and Warden of the Cinque Ports 1204-6; Sheriff of Wiltshire 1204-7, 1213-26; Lord of the Honour and Castle of Eye 1205; Cheriff of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire 1212-21; Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire 1223-4; Constable of Portchester, Southampton, and Winchester Castle 1224; Keeper of the March of Wales.

    Yes, there really were two Ida de Longespees, and they were sisters. SGM post:

    From: Douglas Richardson Subject: Parentage of Ida Longespée, wife of Walter Fitz Robert Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:51:45 -0700 (PDT)

    There has been discussion in the past on the newsgroup regarding the placement of Ida Longespée, wife of Walter Fitz Robert, in the Longespée family tree. Complete Peerage, 5 (1926): 472 (sub FitzWalter) identifies Ida as "daughter of William (Longespée), Earl of Salisbury." The William Longespée intended here is presumably William Longespée I who died in 1226, not his son, William II, who died in 1250. If so, this would give Earl William Longespée I and his wife, Ela, two adult daughters named Ida, one of whom married Walter Fitz Robert, and the other who married William de Beauchamp. Curiously Complete Peerage, 11 (1949): 381-382 footnote k (sub Salisbury) confuses Walter Fitz Robert's wife Ida with her sister of the same name who married William de Beauchamp; it also misidentifies Walter Fitz Robert's parentage.

    The identification of Ida, wife of Walter Fitz Robert, as a Longespée has traditionally rested on a pedigree of the Longespée family found in Lacock Priory cartulary. This pedigree lists the various children of William Longespée I, Earl of Salisbury, and his wife, Ela of Salisbury, including:

    "Idam de Camyle, quam duxit in uxorem Walterus fil. Roberti, de qua genuit Catherinam et Loricam, quæ velatæ erant apud Lacok; Elam, quam duxit primo Guillelmus de Dodingeseles, de qua genuit Robertum") [Reference: Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum, 6(1) (1830): 501].

    It is not known exactly why Ida Longespée is here styled Ida de Camyle in this record. I've assumed, however, that Ida may have had a brief Camville marriage previous to her known marriage to Walter Fitz Robert. If so, a previous Camvillle marriage would explain her use of the Camville surname as a grown adult. Ida's older brother, William Longespée II, is known, for example, to have married a member of the Camville family.

    There are two contemporary records which prove that Ida, wife of Walter Fitz Robert, was in fact a Longespée. The first record comes from List of Ancient Correspondence of the Chancery and Exchequer, which source contains an abstract of a letter dated 1261-1263 from Ida, widow of Walter Fitz Robert, written to Walter de Merton, the king's chancellor, in which Ida specifically styles herself Ida Longespée:

    "152. Ida Longespée, widow of Walter Fitz Robert, to the same [Walter de Merton, Chancellor]: to bail two of her men appealed of homicide. [1261-1263]." [Reference: List of Ancient Correspondence of the Chancery and Exchequer (PRO Lists and Indexes 15) (1902): 107-108].

    Elsewhere I find that Calendar of Liberate Rolls 5 (1961): 93 likewise refers to Ida, widow of Walter Fitz Robert, as "Ida Lungespee:"

    Date: 11 May 1162 -- "Liberate to Geoffrey de Lezinan, the king's brother, 40l. in recompense of a like sum received there of the issues of the manor of Henham [Essex] by the hands of Ida Lungespee." END OF QUOTE.

    To date to my knowledge no one has discovered Ida Longespée's maritagium, although she certainly had one in marriage. Recently I encountered a record which evidently concerns her maritagium. The record in question is a Wiltshire pleading which dates from 1249:

    "Walter son of Robert and Ida his wife, by Ida's attorney by writ of the present king, who brought an assize of novel disseisin against William Lungepeie for holdings in Scepperingge and Heniton, Farlegh' and Bidinham, have come and withdrawn by licence. It is agreed between them that Walter and Ida had put themselves utterly in William's grace for those holdings." [Reference: Clanchy, Civil Pleas of the Wiltshire Eyre 1249 (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 26) (1971): 152].

    The lands involved in this lawsuit can be identified as Sheepbridge (in Swallowfield), Hinton (in Hurst), Farley [Hill] (in Swallowfield), and Diddenham (in Shinfield), all in modern Berkshire but formerly in Wiltshire. These lands were apparently held by William Longespée I and his wife, Countess Ela.

    VCH Berkshire 3 (1923): 267-274 states that Sheepbridge "belonged with Hinton in 1236 to Ela, Countess of Salisbury." Countess Ela named here was the widow of William Longespée I. VCH's statement regarding Countess Ela's holding of these lands is based on a charter found in Calendar of Charter Rolls 1226 - 57, page 221, whereby the king confirmed a grant of Countess Ela of various lands to Lacock Abbey, in exchange for "10 l. yearly receivable ...... .of the manors of Shiperige and Henton, and the advowson of the church of Winterburn Shyreveton."

    The above record may be viewed at the following weblink:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=1dELAQA AIAAJ&pg=PP1&dq=Calendar+Charter+Rolls+1226&hl=en&ei=M-U4TrbTFYvXiALj163DDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=r esult&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Calendar%20Charter%20Rolls%201226&f=false

    Countess Ela's charter is undated but surely must date from around 1236. My files notes show the following information:

    "In Feb. 1236 her son and heir, William Longespée, guaranteed her gifts to Lacock Abbey, while she agreed to surrender all her lands, rents and rights to him on 1 Nov. following. On 25 Oct. 1236 Ela, Countess of Salisbury, reached agreement with William Longespée, her first born son, that she may grant a moiety of the manor of Heddington, Wiltshire to Lacock Priory, which property fell to her on the death of Maud de Mandeville, Countess of Essex and Hereford. In the winter 1236 - 7 she resigned her custody of the county of Wiltshire. She subsequently entered her religious foundation at Lacock, where she took the veil before spring 1238." END OF QUOTE FROM MY FILE NOTES.

    Following Countess Ela's surrender of her lands to her son, William Longespée II, he in turn granted the four properties in question, namely Sheepbridge, Hinton, Farley, and Diddenham, to his seneschal, Sir Henry de la Mare. The date of this grant is sometime before 1239-40.

    In that year Sir Henry de la Mare was involved in a legal action concerning these four properties. A reference to this lawsuit may be found in Maitland, Bracton's Note Book 3 (1887): 286 - 287. This may be viewed at the following weblink:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=DtcQAAA AYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:LtFTiI1NIsEC&hl=en&ei=nmw5TsSXK42IsAKv3OEg&sa=X&oi=book_result &ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

    So the question arises: When did Walter Fitz Robert and his wife, Ida Longespée, acquire their interest in the four properties? The answer to that question is not exact but surely it must have dated from the time that Countess Ela of Salisbury was holding these properties and before 1 Nov. 1236 when Countess Ela surrendered all her lands, rents, and rights to her son, William Longespée II. Walter and Ida can't have acquired their interest from William Longespée II, as once his mother released her lands to him, he almost immediately conveyed these four properties to his seneschal, Sir Henry de la Mare. One of these properties, Hinton, subsequently descended to Sir Henry de la Mare's daughter and heiress, Maud, wife of Peter de Montfort, and thence to her descendants [see VCH Berkshire 3 (1923): 247 - 260].

    So besides knowing that Walter Fitz Robert and Ida Longespée obtained their interest in the properties before 1236, what else can we know? More specifically, why would Ida claim these lands, if her brother had granted them to his seneschal?

    The answer to this question is not clear but a reasonable guess would be that these four properties were put up as Ida's maritagium when she was contracted to marry a Camville and that when the contracted Camville marriage failed to materialize or produced no issue, by the terms of the marriage contract, the lands returned to Ida's family. At that point, Ida's claim to the lands was essentially voided. This in turn would explain why Ida's brother, William Longespée II, felt free to grant these lands elsewhere to Sir Henry de la Mare.

    In summary, adequate evidence has been located which indicates that Ida, wife of Walter Fitz Robert, was a Longespée. In 1249 Walter Fitz Robert and his wife, Ida, sued William Longespée II regarding four properties then in Wiltshire, but now in Berkshire. The four properties in question were apparently part of the inheritance of Ida's mother, Countess Ela, who appears to have controlled the lands until 1236, when she released her lands to her son, William Longespée II. Ida's rights must predate 1236, as William Longespée II almost immediately conveyed these properties before 1239-40 to his seneschal, Sir Henry de la Mare. Thus William Longespée II can not have offered them as Ida's maritagium. This in turn implies that Ida Longespée was the daughter of William Longespée I and his wife, Countess Ela, and not William Longespée II.

    For interest's sake, the following is a list of the numerous 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Ida Longespée, wife of Walter Fitz Robert:

    Robert Abell, Dannett Abney, Elizabeth Alsop, William Asfordby, Walter Aston, Christopher Batt, Henry, Thomas & William Batte, Essex Beville, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Thomas Booth, Elizabeth Bosvile, Mary Bourchier, George & Robert Brent, Thomas Bressey, Edward Bromfield, Nathaniel Browne, Obadiah Bruen, Stephen Bull, Elizabeth, John, and Thomas Butler, Charles Calvert, Edward Carleton, Kenelm Cheseldine, Grace Chetwode, Jeremy Clarke, Matthew Clarkson, St. Leger Codd, Henry Corbin, Francis Dade, Humphrey Davie, Frances, Jane & Katherine Deighton, Edward Digges, Thomas Dudley, William Farrer, John Fenwick, John Fisher, Muriel Gurdon, Katherine Hamby, Elizabeth & John Harleston, Warham Horsmanden, Anne Humphrey, Mary Launce, Hannah, Samuel & Sarah Levis, Nathaniel Littleton, Henry, Jane & Nicholas Lowe, Symon Lynde, Agnes Mackworth, Roger & Thomas Mallory, Anne, Elizabeth & John Mansfield, Anne & Katherine Marbury, Anne Mauleverer, Richard More, Joseph & Mary Need, John and Margaret Nelson, Philip & Thomas Nelson, Ellen Newton, Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge, Herbert Pelham, Robert Peyton, George Reade, Thomas Rudyard, Katherine Saint Leger, Richard Saltonstall, William Skepper, Diana & Grey Skipwith, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stratton, James Taylor, Samuel & William Torrey, Margaret Touteville, Olive Welby, John West, Thomas Yale.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    William married Ela of Salisbury before Sep 1197. Ela (daughter of William fitz Patrick and Eleanor de Vitré) was born about 1191 in Amesbury, Wiltshire, England; died on 24 Aug 1261 in Lacock, Wiltshire, England; was buried in 1261 in Lacock Abbey, Lacock, Wiltshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 41. Idonea de Longespée  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1266.
    2. 42. Stephen Longespée  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of King's Sutton, Northamptonshire, England; died before 25 Jun 1260; was buried in Lacock Abbey, Lacock, Wiltshire, England.
    3. 43. Ida Longespée  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1261.
    4. 44. William Longespée  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 12 May 1205; died on 7 Feb 1249 in Mansourah, Egypt.

  11. 19.  William Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born on 17 Aug 1153; died in 1156; was buried in Reading Abbey, Berkshire, England.

    Notes:

    Buried at Reading at the feet of his great-grandfather Henry I.


  12. 20.  Henry the Young King, Titular King of England Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born on 28 Feb 1155; died on 11 Jun 1183 in Castle of Martel, Lot, France.

    Notes:

    Joint-king of England 1170-1183. Also Duke of Normandy; Count of Anjou and Maine. "[H]e never ruled alone because of his premature death, and he is not generally included in the list of kings (or assigned a Roman numeral) by modern historians." [The Henry Project, citation details below]

    Henry married Margaret of France, Titular Queen Consort of England; Queen Consort of Hungary and Croatia on 27 Aug 1172 in Winchester Cathedral, Winchester, Hampshire, England. Margaret (daughter of Louis VII, King of France and Constance of Castile, Queen Consort of France) was born in 1157; died after 10 Sep 1197 in Acre, Palestine; was buried in Cathedral of Tyre. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  13. 21.  Matilda of England Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in 1156 in London, England; died on 13 Jul 1189.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 28 Jun 1189

    Matilda married Heinrich of Saxony between 1167 and 1168. Heinrich (son of Heinrich of Saxony and Gertrud von Süpplinburg) was born in 1129; died on 6 Aug 1195 in Braunschweig, Lower Saxony, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 45. Heinrich I of Rhein  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1173; died on 28 Apr 1227.
    2. 46. Wilhelm of Brunswick-Lüneburg  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Apr 1184 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; died on 13 Dec 1213 in Lüneburg, Lower Saxony, Germany.

  14. 22.  Richard I, King of England Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born on 8 Sep 1157; died on 6 Apr 1199; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France.

    Richard married Berengaria of Navarre, Queen Consort of England on 12 May 1191. Berengaria (daughter of Sancho VI, King of Navarre and Sancha of Castile, Queen Consort of Navarre) was born between 1165 and 1170; died on 23 Dec 1230. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  15. 23.  Geoffrey Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born on 23 Sep 1158; died on 19 Aug 1186; was buried in Paris, France.

    Family/Spouse: Constance of Brittany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  16. 24.  Eleanor of England Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born on 13 Oct 1162 in Domfront, Normandy, France; died on 21 Sep 1214; was buried in Abbey of Santa María la Real de Las Huelgas, Burgos, Castile, Spain.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Between 1161 and 1162
    • Alternate birth: 1161
    • Alternate death: 25 Oct 1214, Burgos, Castile, Spain

    Notes:

    Also called Leonor.

    "Of all Eleanor of Aquitaine's daughters, her namesake was the only one who was enabled, by political circumstances, to wield the kind of influence her mother had exercised. In her own marriage treaty, and in the first marriage treaty for her daughter Berengaria, Eleanor was given direct control of many lands, towns, and castles throughout the kingdom. She was almost as powerful as Alfonso, who specified in his will in 1204 that she was to rule alongside their son in the event of his death, including taking responsibility for paying his debts and executing his will. It was she who persuaded him to marry their daughter Berengaria to Alfonso IX of León. Troubadours and sages were regularly present in Alfonso VIII's court due to Eleanor's patronage." [Wikipedia]

    Eleanor married Alfonso VIII, King of Castile, Toledo, and Extramadura in Sep 1170 in Burgos, Castile, Spain. Alfonso (son of Sancho III, King of Nájera, Castile, and Toledo and Blanche of Navarre, Queen of Castile) was born on 11 Nov 1155 in Soría, Castile, Spain; died on 22 Sep 1214; was buried in Abbey of Santa María la Real de Las Huelgas, Burgos, Castile, Spain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 47. Berenguela I of Castile, Queen Of Castile & Toledo  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1180; died on 8 Nov 1246 in Las Huelgas, near Burgos, Castile, Spain; was buried in Abbey of Santa María la Real de Las Huelgas, Burgos, Castile, Spain.
    2. 48. Urraca of Castile  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1186 and 1187; died on 3 Nov 1220 in Coimbra, Portugal.
    3. 49. Blanche of Castile, Queen Consort of France  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 4 Mar 1188 in Palencia, Castile, Spain; died on 26 Nov 1252 in Paris, France; was buried in Maubuisson Abbey near Pontoise, near Paris, France.

  17. 25.  Joan Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born in Oct 1165; died in Sep 1199.

  18. 26.  John, King of England Descendancy chart to this point (8.Henry3, 3.Geoffrey2, 1.Eremburge1) was born about 27 Dec 1166 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England; died on 19 Oct 1216 in Newark Castle, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried in Worcester Cathedral, Worcestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 1167

    Notes:

    Nicknamed "Lackland".

    "With regard to the birthdate of John, there have been disagreements as to the exact date and year, because of discrepancies in the sources. This was recently discussed in detail in Lewis (2002), where the conclusion was reached that 1166 was more likely than 1167. A statement in the early thirteenth century that John received that name because he was born about the time of the feast of St. John (27 December) would, if true, indicate that date as a plausible date of birth [Ex chronico anonymi canonici, ut videtur, Laudensis, RHF 13, 678-9]. However, that source only indicates a birth on about that date ('circa festum S. Johannis natus fuit'), not on it." [Stewart Baldwin, The Henry Project]

    For at least part of his upbringing, he was raised in the remarkable household of his father Henry II's justiciar Ranulph de Glanville, along with, among others, the Walter brothers, nephews of Glanville's wife Bertha de Valognes. Theobald Walter would become, under John, chief butler of England and Ireland and the founder of enduring lordships in Munster and Leinster. Hubert Walter would become archbishop of Canterbury, Ranulph de Glanville's successor as justiciar of England, and then, in John's kingship, chancellor of England. Also raised and educated in the same household was Geoffrey fitz Peter, who would become John's justiciar.

    Family/Spouse: Clemence. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 50. Joan of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1190; died on 30 Mar 1236; was buried in Llanvaes, Anglesey, Wales.

    Family/Spouse: (Unknown daughter of William de Warenne). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 51. Richard fitz Roy  Descendancy chart to this point died before 24 Jun 1246.

    Family/Spouse: (Unknown mistress of King John). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 52. Isabel fitz Roy  Descendancy chart to this point

    John married Isabel of Gloucester on 29 Aug 1189 in Marlborough, Wiltshire, England. Isabel (daughter of William fitz Robert and Hawise of Leicester) died on 14 Oct 1217. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    John married Isabel of Angoulême, Queen Consort of England on 24 Aug 1200 in Bordeaux, Gironde, France. Isabel (daughter of Adémar and Alix de Courtenay) died on 31 May 1246; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 53. Henry III, King of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 Oct 1207 in Winchester Castle, Hampshire, England; died on 16 Nov 1272 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England.
    2. 54. Richard of Cornwall, King of the Romans  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 Jan 1209 in Winchester Castle, Hampshire, England; died on 2 Apr 1272 in Berkhamsted, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Hailes Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.
    3. 55. Joan of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 22 Jul 1210 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England; died on 4 Mar 1238 in York, Yorkshire, England; was buried in Tarrant Keynston Abbey, Tarrant Crawford, Dorset, England.
    4. 56. Isabella of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1214; died on 1 Dec 1241.
    5. 57. Eleanor of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1215; died on 13 Apr 1275 in Montargis Abbey, Loiret, France; was buried on 13 Apr 1275 in Montargis Abbey, Loiret, France.