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Joan de Somery

Female - Aft 1325


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Joan de Somery died after 1325.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 18 Jan 1327
    • Alternate death: Bef 12 Feb 1338

    Joan married Thomas Botetourt before 1318. Thomas (son of John Botetourt and Maud fitz Thomas) was born in of Upton, Norfolk, England; died before 28 Jul 1322. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Maud Botetort  Descendancy chart to this point died on 14 Sep 1391 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England.
    2. 3. John Botetourte  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1317 and 1318 in of Weoley, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Apr 1386; was buried in Halesowen Abbey, Worcestershire, England.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Maud Botetort Descendancy chart to this point (1.Joan1) died on 14 Sep 1391 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England.

    Maud married Reynold de Grey before 10 Jan 1328. Reynold (son of Henry de Grey) was born on 1 Nov 1311 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 28 May 1370 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Henry de Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1340 and 1351 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 22 Apr 1396.

  2. 3.  John Botetourte Descendancy chart to this point (1.Joan1) was born between 1317 and 1318 in of Weoley, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Apr 1386; was buried in Halesowen Abbey, Worcestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 1318, of Upton, Norfolk, England
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1318
    • Alternate death: 1385

    Notes:

    "John (de Botetourt), Lord Bortetourt, grandson and h., being s. and h. of Thomas de B., by Joan (living 18 Jan. 1326/7), da. of Roger de Somery, sister (and coh. of the considerable estates) of John [Lord] Somery, which Thomas de B. was s. and h. ap. of the late Lord, and d. v.p., in 1322. He, who was aged 4 in Aug. 1322, and 7 in Dec. 1324, had livery of his lands (1341) 14 Edw. III, having had livery (though then a minor) of his mother's lands 16 July 1338. He distinguished himself in the French wars. He was sum. to Parl. from 25 Feb. (1342) 16 Edw. III to 3 Feb. (1385) 9 Ric. II. [...] He m., [...], before 31 May 1347, Joyce, da. of William Zouche, formerly Mortimer [Lord Zouche of Mortimer]. She was living 4 May 1372. [...] He d. 1385, and was bur. at Halesowen, when any Barony which may be held to have been cr. by writ, became dormant, but the right thereto, according to modern doctrine, would appear to have devolved, as under. Will, as Lord of Weologh, pr. 1386 at Lambeth." [Complete Peerage II:235, as corrected by Volume XIV.]

    Even subsequent to the corrections in Volume XIV, CP is still mistaken in claiming (in passages replaced above by ellipses) that this John Botetourt had as his 1st wife Maud de Grey, daughter of John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield. Details here.

    John married Joyce la Zouche before 31 May 1347. Joyce (daughter of William la Zouche and Alice de Tony) died after 4 May 1372. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Katherine Botetourte  Descendancy chart to this point died on 22 Jan 1388.
    2. 6. Joyce Botetourte  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1348; died on 12 Aug 1420.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Henry de Grey Descendancy chart to this point (2.Maud2, 1.Joan1) was born between 1340 and 1351 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 22 Apr 1396.

    Notes:

    5th Lord Grey of Wilton. He was summoned to Parliament 1 Dec 1376 by a writ directed Henrico de Grey de Shirlond, and from 4 Aug 1377 to 20 Nov 1394 by writs directed Henrico de Grey de Wilton.

    Henry married Elizabeth Talbot about 4 May 1370. Elizabeth (daughter of Gilbert Talbot and Pernel le Boteler) died on 10 Jan 1402. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Margaret Grey  Descendancy chart to this point died on 1 Jun 1454.
    2. 8. Richard Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1393 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 13 Aug 1442 in Waterhall in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, England.

  2. 5.  Katherine Botetourte Descendancy chart to this point (3.John2, 1.Joan1) died on 22 Jan 1388.

    Katherine married Thomas Berkeley before 1350. Thomas (son of Maurice de Berkeley and Margery de Vere) was born about 1334 in of Uley, Gloucestershire, England; died before 29 Sep 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. Maurice Berkeley  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 Jun 1358 in Uley, Gloucestershire, England; died on 2 Oct 1400.

  3. 6.  Joyce Botetourte Descendancy chart to this point (3.John2, 1.Joan1) was born about 1348; died on 12 Aug 1420.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 13 Aug 1420

    Notes:

    Shown in Ancestral Roots, lines 98, 216, and 230A, as born 1367/68 -- clearly impossible if, as shown in both AR and Royal Ancestry, her son Baldwin was born in 1368.

    Her parents were married by the end of May 1347, so we're assuming that what Weis et al. meant was 1347/48.

    Joyce married Baldwin de Freville before 1368. Baldwin (son of Baldwin de Freville and Ida de Clinton) was born about 1349 in of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England; died on 30 Dec 1387. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Baldwin de Freville  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 20 Nov 1368 in Weoley Castle, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; was christened on 20 Nov 1368 in Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Oct 1400.

    Joyce married Adam de Peshale after 25 May 1388. Adam (son of Adam de Peshale and Joan de Eyton) died on 26 Oct 1419. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



Generation: 4

  1. 7.  Margaret Grey Descendancy chart to this point (4.Henry3, 2.Maud2, 1.Joan1) died on 1 Jun 1454.

    Margaret married John Darcy after 9 Jul 1397. John (son of Philip Darcy and Elizabeth Gray) was born between 1376 and 1377 in of Knaith, Lincolnshire, England; died on 9 Dec 1411; was buried in Selby Abbey, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Philip Darcy  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1398 in of Knaith, Lincolnshire, England; died on 2 Aug 1418.
    2. 12. John Darcy  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1404 in Temple Hurst, Yorkshire, England; died in 1454.

  2. 8.  Richard Grey Descendancy chart to this point (4.Henry3, 2.Maud2, 1.Joan1) was born about 1393 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 13 Aug 1442 in Waterhall in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 20 Aug 1442, Waterhall in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire, England

    Notes:

    6th Lord Grey of Wilton. In 1415 he accompanied the king to France, in the retinue of the Earl of Dorset.

    Family/Spouse: Blanche. Blanche died before 1426. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Reynold Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1421 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 22 Feb 1494; was buried in Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, England.

  3. 9.  Maurice Berkeley Descendancy chart to this point (5.Katherine3, 3.John2, 1.Joan1) was born on 1 Jun 1358 in Uley, Gloucestershire, England; died on 2 Oct 1400.

    Maurice married Joan Dinham before May 1400. Joan (daughter of John de Dinham and Muriel Courtenay) died on 22 Aug 1412. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Maurice Berkeley  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 2 Feb 1401 in of Stoke Gifford, Gloucestershire, England; died on 26 Nov 1464.

  4. 10.  Baldwin de Freville Descendancy chart to this point (6.Joyce3, 3.John2, 1.Joan1) was born before 20 Nov 1368 in Weoley Castle, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; was christened on 20 Nov 1368 in Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Oct 1400.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Tamworth, Staffordshire, England
    • Alternate death: 1401

    Baldwin married Maud le Scrope before 1394. Maud (daughter of Stephen le Scrope and Margery Welles) died after 1418. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Joyce Freville  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1418.
    2. 16. Elizabeth Freville  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1394.
    3. 17. Margaret Freville  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1400 and 1401; died on 8 Jan 1493.


 

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