William de Stanley

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: of Storeton, Cheshire, England
• Alternate death: Jun 1398

Notes:

Hereditary forester of Wirral, Cheshire. Justice in Eyre for Cheshire.

Family/Spouse: Alice. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: of Stanley, Staffordshire, England
• Alternate death: Bef 28 Jan 1414, Ardee, Louth, Ireland

Notes:

"Deputy in Ireland for Robert de Vere, Marquess of Dublin, 1386-1387/8; Controller of the Household, 4 Mar 1389; Justiciary of Ireland, 1 Aug 1389-before 29 Aug 1391; Justice of Chester, 28 Apr 1394; Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, 10 Dec 1399-Apr/July 1401; appointed Knight of the Garter, about 1405. In 1405, Henry IV granted the Isle of Man to Sir John Stanley, which he ruled as a petty king until his death, and which passed on to his descendants, each ruling as King of Man and the Isles until the time of Thomas, 2nd Earl of Derby who changed the title to Lord. King's Lieutenant of Ireland, 8 June 1413-6 Jan 1414." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

From Wikipedia:

Stanley's father was Master-Forester of the Forest of Wirral, notorious for his repressive activities. Both Stanley and his older brother, William (who succeeded their father as Master-Forester), were involved in criminal cases which charged them with a forced entry in 1369 and in the murder of Thomas Clotton in 1376.

Conviction for the murder of Clotton resulted in Stanley being declared an outlaw. However, he was already distinguishing himself in military service in the French wars, and he was pardoned in 1378 at the insistence of his commander, Sir Thomas Trivet.

In 1385 he married Isabel Lathom, heir to the extensive lands of Sir Thomas Lathom (great-great-grandson of Humphrey VI de Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford) in south-west Lancashire. The marriage took place despite the opposition of John of Gaunt and gave Stanley the sort of wealth and financial security he could never have hoped to have had as the younger son in his own family.[1] Stanley had four sons, John, Henry, Thomas and Ralph as well as two daughters.

The year 1386 saw his first appointment in Ireland as deputy to Robert de Vere, Duke of Ireland. This occurred because of the insurrection created by the friction between Sir Philip de Courtenay, the then English Lieutenant of Ireland, and his appointed governor James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond. Stanley led an expedition to Ireland on behalf of de Vere and King Richard II to quell it. He was accompanied by Bishop Alexander de Balscot of Meath and Sir Robert Crull. Butler joined them upon their arrival in Ireland. Because of the success of the expedition, Stanley was appointed to the position of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Alexander to chancellor, Crull to treasurer, and Butler to his old position as governor. In 1389, Richard II appointed him justiciar of Ireland, a post he held until 1391. He was heavily involved in Richard's first expedition to Ireland in 1394–1395.

Throughout the 1390s he was involved in placating possible rebellion in Cheshire. Between 1396 and 1398 he served as captain of Roxburgh. Stanley took part in Richard II's expedition to Ireland in 1399. However, on his return to England, Stanley, who had long proved adept at political manoeuvring, turned his back on Richard and submitted to Henry IV of England.

Stanley's fortunes were equally good under the Lancastrians. He was granted lordships in the Welsh marches, and served a term as lieutenant of Ireland. In 1403 he was made steward of the household of Henry, Prince of Wales (later Henry V). Unlike many of the Cheshire gentry, he took the side of the king in the rebellion of the Percys. He was wounded in the throat at the Battle of Shrewsbury.

In 1405 he was granted the tenure of the Isle of Man, which had been confiscated from the rebellious Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland. In this period he also became steward of the king's household, and was elected a Knight of the Garter. In 1413 King Henry V of England sent him to serve once more as lieutenant of Ireland. He died at Ardee, County Louth, in 1414, after being satirised by the O'Higgins of Meath for despoiling the lands and raiding the cows of Niall O'Higgins. He lasted but five weeks, according to the Four Masters, before succumbing "to the virulence of the lampoons". His body was returned to Lathom and buried at Burscough Priory near Ormskirk. This was the second such Poet's Miracle performed by the O'Higgins.

John married Isabel Lathom before 1385. Isabel (daughter of Thomas de Lathom and Joan de Venables) died on 26 Oct 1414. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

He was in Ireland on the king's service in the first year of the reign of Henry IV (1399-1400), and pardoned for his part in the Percy rebellion 1403-04.

William married Margery de Hooton between 1387 and 1387. Margery (daughter of William de Hoton and Katherine Torond) died before 1 Sep 1427. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire, 1427-28. Sheriff of Staffordshire, 1433-34, 1438-39. Knight of the shire for Staffordshire.

Thomas married Maud Arderne before 1 May 1413. Maud (daughter of John Arderne and Margaret Pilkington) was born on 2 Jul 1396; died between 1430 and 1432. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aft 1 Sep 1427
• Alternate death: Dec 1437

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Knight of the shire for Lancashire, 1413 and 1414. Justice of Chester. Sheriff of Anglesey. Steward of the household of Henry IV.

Fought at Agincourt with eight men-at-arms and 24 archers.

Quoted in Wikipedia, A. W. Moore (1853-1909), Speaker of the House of Keys, the lower house of the Manx legislature, said of him: "He may justly be considered an enlightened and upright ruler, much in advance of his time. He caused the ancient laws and constitutions of his little kingdom to be reduced to writing, he humbled the overbearing ecclesiastical authorities, and, after he had practically concentrated all power into his own hands, he wisely conceded a representative form of government."

John married Elizabeth Harington before 1405. Elizabeth (daughter of Nicholas Harington and Isabel English) died after 22 Mar 1445. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: of Hooton in Wirral, Cheshire, England
• Alternate death: Aft 1 Sep 1425

Notes:

At the battle of Agincourt, and knighted for his services there. Earlier, he was pardoned for his part in the Percy rebellion.

William married Blanche Arderne between 1402 and 1403. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Anne married John Gresley before 1455. John (son of John Gresley and Elizabeth Clarell) was born about 1418 in of Drakelow, Derbyshire, England; died on 30 Jan 1487. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Lieutenant-Governor of Ireland. Constable of Chester. Chamberlain of North Wales. Justice of Chester. Chief Steward of the Duchy of Lancaster. Controller of the royal household. Privy concillor.

Knight of the shire for Lancashire 1427, 1433, 1439, 1442, 1447, 1449, 1450, 1453, 1455. Summoned to Parliament by writ dated 15 Jan 1456.

Thomas Stanley (d. 1459) = Joan Goushill
Katherine Stanley = John Savage (1422-1495)
Margaret Savage = John Honford (1435-1480)
Katherine Honford (d. 1529) = John Mainwaring (1471-1516)
Randall Mainwaring (1495-1557) = Elizabeth Brereton
Margaret Mainwaring (1521-1590) = Arthur Mainwaring (1520-1590)
Mary Mainwaring (1541-1578) = Richard Cotton (1541-1602)
Frances Cotton (1573-1646) = George Abell (1561-1630)
Robert Abell (1605-1663) = Joanna
Mary Abell (b. 1642) = Samuel Luther (1638-1716)
Mehitable Luther (1676-1764) = Ebenezer Cole (1671-1719)
Ebenezer Cole (b. 1715) = Prudence Miller (b. 1721)
Ruth Cole (b. 1744) = John Thurber (b. 1735)
John Thurber (1774-1826) = Freelove Thurston (1778-1832)
Sarah Ann Thurber = Peleg Hull
Sarah Emeline Hull = Leander Thurber (1832-1867)
Charles Leander Thurber (1867-1939) = Mary Agnes Fisher (1868-1955)
James Grover Thurber (1894-1961)

Family/Spouse: Joan Goushill. Joan (daughter of Robert Goushill and Elizabeth Fitz Alan) was born about 1401; died before 27 Apr 1466. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1404, of Hooton in Wirral, Cheshire, England
• Alternate death: Bef Mar 1465

William married Mary Savage on 15 Dec 1424. Mary (daughter of John Savage and Maud Swynnerton) died between 1434 and 1435. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Robert Legh. Robert (son of Robert de Legh and Maud Belgrave) was born in 1410 in Adlington, Cheshire, England; was christened in 1410 in Prestbury, Cheshire, England; died on 21 Jan 1479. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Thomas Darell. Thomas (son of John Darell and Florence Chichele) was born in 1422. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaret married William Troutbeck before 17 Dec 1444. William (son of John Troutbeck and Margery Hulse) was born between 1432 and 1435 in of Dunham-on-the-Hill, Cheshire, England; died on 23 Sep 1459 in Blore Heath, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Troutneck chapel, St. Mary's, Chester, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: John Savage, Mayor of Chester. John (son of John Savage and Eleanor Brereton) was born about 1423 in of Rocksavage, Cheshire, England; died on 22 Nov 1495; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Between 29 Mar 1470 and 1485

John married Elizabeth Weever after 1446. Elizabeth (daughter of Thomas de Weever and Elizabeth) died on 17 Feb 1513. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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1st Earl of Derby.

Thomas married Eleanor Neville between 1455 and 1459. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Thomas married Margaret Beaufort in 1472. Margaret (daughter of John Beaufort and Margaret Beauchamp) was born on 31 May 1443 in Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England; died on 29 Jun 1509 in Westminster, Middlesex, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Sheriff of Cheshire in 1463. In 1450 he fought for the king against Jack Cade.

Family/Spouse: Alice Hoghton. Alice (daughter of Richard de Hoghton and Margaret) was born in of Mollington Banastre, Cheshire, England; died after 11 Mar 1466. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: John Mainwaring. John (son of William Mainwaring and Ellen Boteler) was born in of Over Peover, Bucklow, Cheshire, England; died on 8 Jul 1495. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Isabel married George Holford in 1473. George (son of Thomas Holford and Maud Bulkeley) was born in of Holford, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Simon Harcourt. Simon (son of Christopher Harcourt and Joan Stapleton) was born about 1473 in of Witham, Berkshire, England; died on 16 Jan 1547; was buried in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: of Mobberley, Cheshire, England

Adam married Joan Molyneux before 1491. Joan died after 1510. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: William Griffith. William (son of Fychan ap Gwilym and Alice Dalton) was born in of Penrhyn Castle, Carnarvon, Wales; died between 1509 and 1510. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Pallbearer to Edward IV. Said to have had charge of the left wing at Bosworth Field; subsequently made Knight of the Garter by Henry VII.

Killed at the siege of Boulogne. According to J. D. Mackie, The Earlier Tudors 1485-1558 (Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1952), "The siege was not pressed hard, and save that Sir John Savage was killed nothing of note occured."

"Traditionally, the wife of Sir John Savage is claimed to have been Dorothy Vernon, a descendant of the Vernons of Shipbrook, Cheshire. This claim is based upon the Visitation of Cheshire of 1580 [...T]here is no evidence that Dorothy Vernon even existed." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

"Sir John (V) Savage (d. 1492), who fought for Edward IV at Tewkesbury, became a royal carver and knight of the body, and was second in order of precedence when Edward was buried. He received many important grants, including that of the constableship of Hanley Castle, Worcestershire. As such close supporters of Edward IV, and associates of the Stanleys, it is not surprising that John (V) and his father seem to have been mistrusted by Richard III. Thomas Savage may have been abroad during the latter's reign and possibly acted as the Savages' direct contact with Henry Tudor. According to Polydore Vergil, John (V) was one of those who 'invited' Tudor to invade. He certainly played an important role at Bosworth, where he commanded the left wing. The author of Bosworth Feilde described him and his men, clad in their distinctive white livery hood:



Sir John Savage, that hardy Knight,

deathes dentes he delt that day

with many a white hood in fight,

that sad men were at assay.



As a result of this support, in 1486 he received an extensive grant in the north midlands of the forfeited estates of John, Lord Zouche, and Francis, Viscount Lovell, valued at £158 p.a. or more. He also received extensive grants of office, especially in Worcestershire and Gloucestershire. The support of the Savages for Henry Tudor guaranteed them a growing prominence at court, and at eight out of eleven council meetings for which evidence survives during the period June–July 1486 either John (V), or Thomas, or both, were present. Sir John (V) Savage led the force that seized Humphrey Stafford from sanctuary at Culham in 1486. [...] Sir John (V) was killed at the siege of Boulogne in 1492." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, citation details below]

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 2 Sep 1507, Cawood Castle, Cawood, North Yorkshire, England

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 1492

Ellen married Peter Legh about 1467. Peter (son of Peter Legh and Mabel Croft) was born about 1455 in of Lyme in Prestbury, Cheshire, England; died on 11 Aug 1527 in Lyme in Prestbury, Cheshire, England; was buried in Winwick, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Dugdale, in the 1664-65 visitation of Lancashire (citation details below), calls her "Elizabeth, dau. of Sir John Savage".

Margaret married Edmund Trafford after 1480. Edmund (son of John de Trafford and Elizabeth Assheton) was born about 1454 in of Trafford, Lancashire, England; died on 15 Aug 1513. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaret married William Torbock about Jan 1490. William (son of Richard Torbock and Elizabeth Daniel) was born about 1464 in of Tarbock in Huyton, Lancashire, England; died on 5 May 1505. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Sheriff of Cheshire 16 Jan 1462.

Family/Spouse: Margaret Bromley. Margaret (daughter of John Bromley and Joane Hexstall) died in 1469. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Robert Needham. Robert (son of William Needham and Isabel Bromley) was born in of Shavington in Adderley, Shropshire, England; died on 4 Jun 1556. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Abt 1545

Notes:

Also called John Holforde, Holdford. Sheriff of Flintshire; justice of the peace for Cheshire. According to Ormerod he was also sheriff of Cheshire in about 1541.

John married Margery Brereton about 1506. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Sheriff of Staffordshire 1545-46. Knight of the shire for Staffordshire.

John married Margaret Barantyne before 1523. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaret married John Talbot before 1510. John (son of Gilbert Talbot and Elizabeth Greystoke) was born in of Grafton, Worcestershire, England; died on 10 Sep 1549; was buried in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Chamberlain of North Wales. Sheriff of Carnarvon, 1493-94. Esquire of the Body to Henry VIII. Made knight banneret by Henry VIII at Thérouanne, 25 Dec 1513.

Family/Spouse: Jane Stradling. Jane (daughter of Thomas Stradling and Janet Matthew) was born between 1477 and 1480; died before 1520. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Robert Needham. Robert (son of Robert Needham) was born in of Cranage, Cheshire, England; died in 1448. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

According to Frank Renaud (citation details below), he was "afflicted with lameness."

Peter married Jane Gerard before 1488. Jane (daughter of Peter Gerard and Margery Stanley) died on 5 May 1510. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Peter married Margaret de Tyldesley about 17 Jan 1514. Margaret was born in of Tyldesley, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margery married Thomas Gerard before 19 Aug 1511. Thomas (son of Peter Gerard and Margery Stanley) was born about 1488 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 7 Nov 1523 in Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Longford. Elizabeth died on 27 Jan 1548. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Thomas married Elizabeth Moore before 1526. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

VCH Lancaster (citation details below), evidently in error, calls her father "Sir Thomas Stanley of Hooton", but nonetheless correctly notes that she was "granddaughter and coheir of Sir John Bromley, by whom the estate of Gerard's Bromley came to this family."

Margery married Peter Gerard about 1476. Peter (son of Thomas Gerard and Cecily Fouleshurst) was born about 1460 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 20 Jun 1494. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: of Shavington in Adderley, Shropshire, England

Thomas married Anne Talbot on 1 Feb 1526. Anne (daughter of John Talbot and Margaret Troutbeck) was born between 1510 and 1515. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

According to Royal Ancestry (citation details below), Thomas Holford and Jane Booth were married by dispensation, being related in the 3rd equal and 3rd and 4th mixed degrees of affinity. What we can see is that Jane Booth was a G3-granddaughter of Maud Swynnerton (b. 1370) by her third wife John Savage, and Thomas Holford was a G4-grandson of Maud by her second wife William Ipstones.

Thomas married Joan Booth after 28 Jun 1539. Joan (daughter of William Booth and Ellen Montgomery) was born about 1500; died after 5 Nov 1545. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Or Anne.

Agnes married John Knyvet about 1538. John (son of Edmund Knyvet and Jane Bourchier) was born about 1517 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 1556. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Anne married Thomas Needham on 1 Feb 1526. Thomas (son of Robert Needham and Agnes Mainwaring) was born in 1510 in of Cranage, Cheshire, England; died before 1556. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: William Williams. William (son of William Williams and Lowry Salusbury) was born in of Cwchwillan, Llechwedd Uchav, Carnarvon, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Maud Brereton. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Judge of the Common Pleas, 1457; MP for London, 1450; Judge of the King's Bench, 1472.

Notes:

Richardson's Royal Ancestry (citation details below) (3:83; 3:557) makes Jane Legh a daughter of Piers Legh and his first wife, Jane Gerard. But that would make Jane Leigh and Thomas Gerard--who are noted as having been second cousins through common Savage ancestry--into first cousins, both grandchildren of Peter Gerard and Margaret Stanley. John Blythe Dobson (citation details below) says that "there is no doubt" that Jane Legh who married Thomas Gerard was a daughter, not of Piers Legh's first wife Jane Gerard, but rather his second wife Margaret de Tyldesley, and this seems more plausible.

Jane married Thomas Gerard before 1522, and was divorced on 27 Nov 1550. Thomas (son of Thomas Gerard and Margery Trafford) was born between 1502 and 1512 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died after 1550. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Constance Rowson. Constance was born about 1537; died after 1567. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: (Unknown mistress of Thomas Gerard). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: 1512
• Alternate death: Between 1550 and 1560
• Alternate death: 1553
• Alternate death: Between 1553 and 1560

Notes:

Sheriff of Lancashire 1548, 1553.

In 1536 he was expected to bring a contingent of 450 men to serve against the Pilgrimage of Grace. He was knighted in 1544 during the invasion of Scotland.

John Blythe Dobson (citation details below) says he was at some unspecified time "M.P. for Lancashire", but the History of Parliament entry for his son, also Thomas Gerard (d. 1601), says nothing about the elder Thomas Gerard having been in Parliament.

Thomas married Jane Legh before 1522, and was divorced on 27 Nov 1550. Jane (daughter of Peter Legh and Margaret de Tyldesley) was born after 1513; died after 20 Nov 1575 in Bromley, Staffordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Robert Langley. Robert was born in of Agecroft Hall, Agecroft, Pendlebury, Lancashire. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aft 14 May 1557

Family/Spouse: Katherine Gerard. Katherine (daughter of Thomas Gerard and Jane Legh) died before 1575. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jane married Peter Legh before 1488. Peter (son of Peter Legh and Ellen Savage) was born about 1479 in of Lyme in Prestbury, Cheshire, England; died on 4 Dec 1541 in Bradley-in-Burtonwood, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

VCH Lancaster (citation details below) calls him "a turbulent and lawless man." He was killed while fighting the Scots at Berwick-upon-Tweed.

Thomas married Margery Trafford before 19 Aug 1511. Margery (daughter of Edmund Trafford and Margaret Savage) died on 10 May 1540. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Sheriff of Shropshire, 1564-65, 1587-87, 1595-96. Vice-President of the Council in the Marches of Wales.

Robert married Frances Aston before 1558. Frances (daughter of Edward Aston and Jane Bowles) died before 31 Aug 1601; was buried on 31 Aug 1601 in Adderley, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: John Bruen. John (son of John Bruen and Mary Oteley) was born in of Bruen Stapleford in Tarvin, Cheshire, England; died on 14 May 1587; was buried on 15 May 1587. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]