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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Ralph de Vernon was born between 1240 and 1250 in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died after Jul 1325.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1327
    • Alternate death: Aft 27 Jun 1329

    Notes:

    Knighted about 1278 or 1279. Luke Potter states that he has seen no contemporary evidence that he was married to a Mary or Maud Dacre.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Rose de Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 3. Richard Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 4. Agatha de Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1280 in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died after 1349.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Rose de Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ralph1)

    Family/Spouse: William de Brereton. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Maud de Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 6. William de Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1432.

  2. 3.  Richard Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ralph1)

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Richard Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 25 Jul 1403 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.
    2. 8. Ralph Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died before 8 Apr 1425.

  3. 4.  Agatha de Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ralph1) was born about 1280 in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died after 1349.

    Agatha married Hugh de Venables between 20 Nov 1294 and 20 Nov 1295. Hugh (son of William de Venables and Margaret de Dutton) was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died before 25 Apr 1311. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. Hugh de Venables  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died between 1367 and 1368.


Generation: 3

  1. 5.  Maud de Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1)

    Family/Spouse: John Domville. John (son of Roger de Domville) was born in of Oxton, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. John de Domville  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Oxton, Cheshire, England; died between 1392 and 1394.

  2. 6.  William de Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) died after 1432.

    Family/Spouse: Margery de Bosley. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. William de Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Brereton, Cheshire, England; died after 1375.

  3. 7.  Richard Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 25 Jul 1403 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1404, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

    Notes:

    Beheaded after the battle of Shrewsbury.

    "The very ancient family of Vernon held the lordship of Shipbrook and fourteen other manors co. Chester, before "Dooms-day Survey." The character in [Shakespeare's Henry VI, Part I was grandson of Sir Ralph Vernon, called Old Sir Ralph, to distinguish him from others of that name, who by his second wife, Maud, sister of Sir Robert Grosvenor, was father of Richard Vernon, who had two sons, Sir Ralph, who died without issue, and Sir Richard Vernon, the personage in this play, who be came Baron of Shipbrook, though not a peer of the Imperial Parliament. He had considerable influence in the North, and, joining the confederacy against Henry IV, was one of the principal leaders at Shrewsbury, where he was taken prisoner after the battle, and 'upon the Mondaie folowyng the erle of Worcester, the Baron of Kinderton, and Sir Richard Vernon, Knights, were condemned and beheaded.' HOLINSHED. Sir Richard Vernon married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Piers Malbank, and left a son, Sir Richard Vernon, whose only daughter and heir, Johanna, married Sir Richard Foulshurst, Knight." [Shakespeareana Genealogica, citation details below]

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Malbank. Elizabeth (daughter of Piers Malbank) died about 1445. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Richard Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1380 and 1382 in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 3 Sep 1419 in France.

  4. 8.  Ralph Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died before 8 Apr 1425.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret. Margaret died after 1 Sep 1426. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Agnes Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1406.

  5. 9.  Hugh de Venables Descendancy chart to this point (4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died between 1367 and 1368.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Oct 1367

    Notes:

    Baron of Kinderton.

    Family/Spouse: Katherine de Hoghton. Katherine (daughter of Richard de Hoghton and Sybil de Lea) was born in of Houghton, Lancashire, England; died after Nov 1367. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Joan de Venables  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1330 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died after 18 Aug 1397.
    2. 15. Hugh de Venables  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1347 in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died in 1379.


Generation: 4

  1. 10.  John de Domville Descendancy chart to this point (5.Maud3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Oxton, Cheshire, England; died between 1392 and 1394.

    Family/Spouse: Cecily de Mobberley. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Margery de Domville  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1414.

  2. 11.  William de Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Brereton, Cheshire, England; died after 1375.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Done. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Randal Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Malpas, Cheshire, England; died after 1436.

    Family/Spouse: Ellen de Egerton. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. William de Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 Feb 1349 in Egerton, Cheshire, England; died before 31 Aug 1426.

  3. 12.  Richard Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (7.Richard3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born between 1380 and 1382 in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 3 Sep 1419 in France.

    Richard married Eleanor de Holes in 1408. Eleanor (daughter of Hugh de Hulse and Margery de Domville) died after 1419. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 19. Joan Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 3 Jul 1417; died after 1467.

  4. 13.  Agnes Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (8.Ralph3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) died after 1406.

    Family/Spouse: William de Atherton. William (son of William de Atherton and Joan Mobberley) was born in of Atherton, Lancashire, England; died on 29 Dec 1414. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. William de Atherton  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1386 in of Atherton, Lancashire, England.

  5. 14.  Joan de Venables Descendancy chart to this point (9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1330 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died after 18 Aug 1397.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1400

    Notes:

    "[Sir Thomas de Lathom's] 2nd wife, Joan Venables, was a notorious character who is said to have neglected and abused her husband while he lay dying, to have lived openly in the same house with her lover, Roger Fazakerley, and married him after consigning Sir Thomas to a speedy burial without ceremony or mourners." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz places her a a daughter of Hugh de Venables (d. 1310) and Agatha de Vernon, but Royal Ancestry (v. 5, p. 25) places her as a daughter of his son, as we show her here.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas de Lathom. Thomas (son of Thomas de Lathom and Eleanor de Ferrers) was born in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died before 20 Mar 1382; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Isabel Lathom  Descendancy chart to this point died on 26 Oct 1414.

  6. 15.  Hugh de Venables Descendancy chart to this point (9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born before 1347 in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died in 1379.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Between 1379 and 1380
    • Alternate death: Between 1382 and 1383
    • Alternate death: Bef 18 Apr 1382

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Cheshire 1378.

    Family/Spouse: Margery de Cotton. Margery (daughter of Hugh de Cotton and Isabel de Hayton) died after Feb 1398. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 22. Richard de Venables  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 23 Jul 1403 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.
    2. 23. Margery de Venables  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died in 1448; was buried in South Chapel, Over Peover, Bucklow, Cheshire, England.
    3. 24. Anyll de Venables  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 5

  1. 16.  Margery de Domville Descendancy chart to this point (10.John4, 5.Maud3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) died after 1414.

    Family/Spouse: Hugh de Hulse. Hugh (son of Hugh de Holes and Ellen Bruen) was born in of Raby, Cheshire, England; died about 1415. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. Thomas Hulse  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Brunstath, Cheshire, England; died about 1421.
    2. 26. Eleanor de Holes  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1419.

  2. 17.  Randal Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Malpas, Cheshire, England; died after 1436.

    Notes:

    Also called Randolph, Ranulf. Sheriff of Cheshire, 1428.

    Randal married Alice Ipstones before 29 Sep 1410. Alice (daughter of William Ipstones and Maud Swynnerton) was born about 1396. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Randal Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Malpas, Cheshire, England; died after 12 Jun 1478.

  3. 18.  William de Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born on 14 Feb 1349 in Egerton, Cheshire, England; died before 31 Aug 1426.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 1350, of Brereton, Egerton, Cheshire, England

    Notes:

    Governor of Caen. Sheriff of Cheshire, 1407-08.

    William married Anyll de Venables in 1386 in Audlem, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. William Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Brereton, Cheshire, England; died in 1415 in Harfleur, Normandy, France.
    2. 29. Eleanor Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 19.  Joan Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (12.Richard4, 7.Richard3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born on 3 Jul 1417; died after 1467.

    Joan married Robert de Fouleshurst between March 1422 and Aug 1422. Robert (son of Thomas de Fouleshurst and Cecily Mainwaring) was born on 17 Oct 1418 in of Crewe, Cheshire, England; died on 3 Dec 1498. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 30. Cecily Fouleshurst  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1440; died on 24 May 1502.

  5. 20.  William de Atherton Descendancy chart to this point (13.Agnes4, 8.Ralph3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born before 1386 in of Atherton, Lancashire, England.

    William married Elizabeth Pilkington in 1399. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. William Atherton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Atherton, Lancashire, England; died in 1440.

  6. 21.  Isabel Lathom Descendancy chart to this point (14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) died on 26 Oct 1414.

    Notes:

    Ormerod, both in his history of Cheshire and in Parentalia, gives this Isabel as a daughter of Thomas Lathom's first wife, also Isabel, daughter of Roger de Pilkington. But the Feet of Fines for Yorkshire dated Quindene of Easter, 50 Edw. III, 1376, contains the lines "remainder to Thomas son of the same Thomas de Lathum and the heirs male of his body; remainder to Isabel daughter of Thomas de Lathum and Joan and the heirs male of her body." Which might indicate that Thomas was a son of the first marriage, but clearly shows that Isabel was a daughter of the second.

    Isabel married John Stanley, Titular King of Man before 1385. John (son of William de Stanley and Alice) was born about 1350 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 6 Jan 1414 in Ardee, Louth, Ireland; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 32. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Elford, Staffordshire, England; died on 13 May 1463; was buried in Elford, Staffordshire, England.
    2. 33. John Stanley, Titular King of Man  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1386 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Nov 1437.

  7. 22.  Richard de Venables Descendancy chart to this point (15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 23 Jul 1403 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Cheshire 1386.

    Fought in the rebel army at Shrewsbury, following which he was (according to some sources) beheaded or (according to others) hanged, drawn, and quartered.

    Richard married Isabel de Langton before 21 Jun 1385. Isabel (daughter of Ralph de Langton and Joan de Radcliffe) was born in of Newton and Walton, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. Joan de Venables  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England.

  8. 23.  Margery de Venables Descendancy chart to this point (15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died in 1448; was buried in South Chapel, Over Peover, Bucklow, Cheshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Between 1448 and 1449, Over Peover, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
    • Alternate death: 1459

    Margery married Randall Mainwaring between 1392 and 1393. Randall (son of William Mainwaring and Elizabeth Leycester) was born in of Over Peover, Bucklow, Cheshire, England; died in 1456; was buried in South Chapel, Over Peover, Bucklow, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 35. William Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died between 1496 and 1499.
    2. 36. Margery de Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1430.
    3. 37. Ralph Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Kermingham, Cheshire, England; died between 1473 and 1474.
    4. 38. Cecily Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point

  9. 24.  Anyll de Venables Descendancy chart to this point (15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1)

    Notes:

    "Being related to her husband in the 4th degree, they received a dispensation from Pope Urban VI through Richard de Dounes, prior of the Carmelites of Chester, in consequence of the services of Sir William in the crusade against Enrique, King of Castile." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    Anyll married William de Brereton in 1386 in Audlem, Cheshire, England. William (son of William de Brereton and Ellen de Egerton) was born on 14 Feb 1349 in Egerton, Cheshire, England; died before 31 Aug 1426. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. William Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Brereton, Cheshire, England; died in 1415 in Harfleur, Normandy, France.
    2. 29. Eleanor Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 6

  1. 25.  Thomas Hulse Descendancy chart to this point (16.Margery5, 10.John4, 5.Maud3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Brunstath, Cheshire, England; died about 1421.

    Notes:

    Also called Thomas Holes.

    Family/Spouse: Alice. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 39. Margery Hulse  Descendancy chart to this point died on 11 Nov 1456.

  2. 26.  Eleanor de Holes Descendancy chart to this point (16.Margery5, 10.John4, 5.Maud3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) died after 1419.

    Eleanor married Richard Vernon in 1408. Richard (son of Richard Vernon and Elizabeth Malbank) was born between 1380 and 1382 in of Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 3 Sep 1419 in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 40. Joan Vernon  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 3 Jul 1417; died after 1467.

  3. 27.  Randal Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (17.Randal5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Malpas, Cheshire, England; died after 12 Jun 1478.

    Notes:

    Also called Randolph.

    Family/Spouse: Katherine Bulkeley. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 41. Randal Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Malpas, Cheshire, England; died after 1 Feb 1470 in Burgundy, France.

  4. 28.  William Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Brereton, Cheshire, England; died in 1415 in Harfleur, Normandy, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1420, Harfleur, Normandy, France

    Family/Spouse: Alice Corbet. Alice (daughter of John Corbet) died about 1459. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 42. Isabel Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point

  5. 29.  Eleanor Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1)

    Notes:

    Ormerod and the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography both call her Elizabeth Brereton.

    Eleanor married John Savage before 1423. John (son of John Savage and Maud Swynnerton) was born between 1401 and 1410 in of Clifton, Cheshire, England; died on 26 Jun 1463. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 43. Margaret Savage  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 44. John Savage, Mayor of Chester  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1423 in of Rocksavage, Cheshire, England; died on 22 Nov 1495; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.

  6. 30.  Cecily Fouleshurst Descendancy chart to this point (19.Joan5, 12.Richard4, 7.Richard3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1440; died on 24 May 1502.

    Notes:

    After her husband's death she took a vow of chastity.

    Cecily married Thomas Gerard about 1440. Thomas (son of Peter Gerard and Isabel Strangeways) was born on 15 Jul 1431 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Mar 1490. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 45. Peter Gerard  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1460 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 20 Jun 1494.

  7. 31.  William Atherton Descendancy chart to this point (20.William5, 13.Agnes4, 8.Ralph3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Atherton, Lancashire, England; died in 1440.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1441

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Byron. Margaret (daughter of John Byron and Margaret Booth) died on 25 May 1486; was buried in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 46. Margery Atherton  Descendancy chart to this point

  8. 32.  Thomas Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Elford, Staffordshire, England; died on 13 May 1463; was buried in Elford, Staffordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire, 1427-28. Sheriff of Staffordshire, 1433-34, 1438-39. Knight of the shire for Staffordshire.

    Thomas married Maud Arderne before 1 May 1413. Maud (daughter of John Arderne and Margaret Pilkington) was born on 2 Jul 1396; died between 1430 and 1432. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 47. Anne Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point

  9. 33.  John Stanley, Titular King of Man Descendancy chart to this point (21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1386 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Nov 1437.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1 Sep 1427
    • Alternate death: Dec 1437

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Lancashire, 1413 and 1414. Justice of Chester. Sheriff of Anglesey. Steward of the household of Henry IV.

    Fought at Agincourt with eight men-at-arms and 24 archers.

    Quoted in Wikipedia, A. W. Moore (1853-1909), Speaker of the House of Keys, the lower house of the Manx legislature, said of him: "He may justly be considered an enlightened and upright ruler, much in advance of his time. He caused the ancient laws and constitutions of his little kingdom to be reduced to writing, he humbled the overbearing ecclesiastical authorities, and, after he had practically concentrated all power into his own hands, he wisely conceded a representative form of government."

    John married Elizabeth Harington before 1405. Elizabeth (daughter of Nicholas Harington and Isabel English) died after 22 Mar 1445. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 48. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1406 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 11 Feb 1459; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

  10. 34.  Joan de Venables Descendancy chart to this point (22.Richard5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas le Grosvenor. Thomas (son of Robert le Grosvenor and Joan de Pulford) was born in of Hulme, Cheshire, England; died in 1429. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 49. Thomas Grosvenor  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Drayton, Staffordshire, England; died after 1450.

  11. 35.  William Mainwaring Descendancy chart to this point (23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died between 1496 and 1499.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Over Peover, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
    • Alternate death: 1497
    • Alternate death: 6 Mar 1498
    • Alternate death: 1499
    • Alternate death: 6 Mar 1499

    Notes:

    "Married the heiress of Ightfield, Shropshire." [Kay Allen, citation details below]

    William Mainwaring (d. <1500) = Margaret Warren (b. 1401)
    Thomas Mainwaring (d. 1508) = Joan Sutton
    John Mainwairing (d. 1518) = Joan Lacon (d. 1524)
    Richard Mainwaring (d. 1558) = Dorothy Corbet
    Arthur Mainwaring (d. 1590) = Margaret Mainwaring
    Mary Mainwaring (~1541-1578) = Richard Cotton (~1539-1602)
    Frances Cotton (d. >1630) = George Abell (d. 1630)
    Robert Abell (~1605-1663) = Joanna (d. >1682)
    Caleb Abell (~1647-1731) = Margaret Post (1653-1700)
    Experience Abell (1674-1763) = John Hyde (1667-1727)
    James Hyde (1707-1793) = Sarah Marshall (1720-1773)
    Abiah Hyde (1749-1788) = Rev. Aaron Cleveland (1744-1815)
    William Cleveland (1770-1837) = Margaret Falley (1766-1850)
    Rev. Richard Falley Cleveland (1804-1853) = Anne Neal (1806-1882)
    (Stephen) Grover Cleveland (1837-1908)

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Warren. Margaret (daughter of John Warren and Margaret Cheyne) was born before 11 Jun 1401 in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; was christened on 11 Jun 1401. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 50. Elizabeth Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

  12. 36.  Margery de Mainwaring Descendancy chart to this point (23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) died after 1430.

    Family/Spouse: William de Bromley. William (son of John de Bromley and Margery Mascy) was born in of Baddington, Cheshire, England; died about 1430. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 51. John Bromley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Baddington, Cheshire, England; died after 26 Apr 1467.

  13. 37.  Ralph Mainwaring Descendancy chart to this point (23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Kermingham, Cheshire, England; died between 1473 and 1474.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Savage. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 52. William Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Wich Malbank, Cheshire, England.

  14. 38.  Cecily Mainwaring Descendancy chart to this point (23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1)

    Cecily married Thomas de Fouleshurst before 1418. Thomas (son of Thomas de Fouleshurst and Joan Fitz Piers) was born between 1395 and 1397 in Glenfield, Leicester, England; died on 24 Jun 1438. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 53. Robert de Fouleshurst  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Oct 1418 in of Crewe, Cheshire, England; died on 3 Dec 1498.


Generation: 7

  1. 39.  Margery Hulse Descendancy chart to this point (25.Thomas6, 16.Margery5, 10.John4, 5.Maud3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) died on 11 Nov 1456.

    Family/Spouse: John Troutbeck. John (son of William Troutbeck and Joanna Massey) was born about 1413 in of Oxhey, Hertfordshire, England; died on 28 Aug 1457. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 54. William Troutbeck  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1432 and 1435 in of Dunham-on-the-Hill, Cheshire, England; died on 23 Sep 1459 in Blore Heath, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Troutneck chapel, St. Mary's, Chester, Cheshire, England.

  2. 40.  Joan Vernon Descendancy chart to this point (26.Eleanor6, 16.Margery5, 10.John4, 5.Maud3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born on 3 Jul 1417; died after 1467.

    Joan married Robert de Fouleshurst between March 1422 and Aug 1422. Robert (son of Thomas de Fouleshurst and Cecily Mainwaring) was born on 17 Oct 1418 in of Crewe, Cheshire, England; died on 3 Dec 1498. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 55. Cecily Fouleshurst  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1440; died on 24 May 1502.

  3. 41.  Randal Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (27.Randal6, 17.Randal5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Malpas, Cheshire, England; died after 1 Feb 1470 in Burgundy, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Ipstones, Staffordshire, England

    Notes:

    Also called Randolph.

    Family/Spouse: Emma Carington. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 56. Ralph Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Iscoyd, Flintshire, Wales; died between 20 May 1530 and 12 Jul 1531.

  4. 42.  Isabel Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (28.William6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1)

    Family/Spouse: Robert Aston. Robert (son of Roger Aston and Joyce Freville) was born about 1414 in of Haywood in Colwich, Staffordshire, England; died in 1464. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 57. John Aston  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Brocton in Baswich, Staffordshire, England; died in 1483.

  5. 43.  Margaret Savage Descendancy chart to this point (29.Eleanor6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1)

    Family/Spouse: Ralph Mainwaring. Ralph (son of Randall Mainwaring and Margery de Venables) was born in of Kermingham, Cheshire, England; died between 1473 and 1474. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 58. William Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Wich Malbank, Cheshire, England.

  6. 44.  John Savage, Mayor of Chester Descendancy chart to this point (29.Eleanor6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1423 in of Rocksavage, Cheshire, England; died on 22 Nov 1495; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Clifton, Cheshire, England
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1422

    Notes:

    Fought at Bosworth Field. Mayor of Chester, 1484-86. Chamberlain of Middlewich.

    "Although there is a possibility that John (III) entered the service of the house of York, it seems more likely that it was his son Sir John (IV) Savage (c. 1423–1495) who did so. He was therefore well placed to benefit from Henry VI's deposition. John (III) served as deputy to Sir Thomas Stanley, afterwards Baron Stanley, as steward of the duchy lordship of Halton, Cheshire. John (IV) married Stanley's daughter Katherine; the couple's children were many and prominent. Aside from John (V), Savage's son and heir, there was Thomas Savage (d. 1507), who rose to be bishop of Rochester in 1492, and of London in 1497, and archbishop of York in 1501, Sir Humphrey, Lawrence, James, Sir Edmund, Christopher, William, George, and Richard. His daughters made good matches, with Ellen being married to Peter Legh of Lyme, Katherine to Thomas Legh of Adlington, Margaret to Edmund Trafford of Trafford, Lancashire, Alice to Roger Pilkington (d. 1527) , and Elizabeth to John Leek of Langford, Derbyshire. John (IV) was knighted at Elizabeth Woodville's coronation in May 1465, and although he is not always easily distinguished from his son and namesake, he probably also became a knight of the body to Edward IV, and a banneret after the Scottish campaign of 1482; he was also very prominent in local affairs in Cheshire and the north midlands. In 1484, as mayor of Chester, he presided when his sons were made freemen of the city." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, citation details below]

    Family/Spouse: Katherine Stanley. Katherine (daughter of Thomas Stanley and Joan Goushill) was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 59. John Savage  Descendancy chart to this point died on 18 Oct 1492 in Bouteville, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.
    2. 60. Thomas Savage, Archbishop of York  Descendancy chart to this point died on 3 Sep 1507 in Cawood Castle, Cawood, North Yorkshire, England; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England.
    3. 61. Ellen Savage  Descendancy chart to this point died on 17 May 1491 in Bewganet, Sussex, England.
    4. 62. Margaret Savage  Descendancy chart to this point died after Aug 1513.

  7. 45.  Peter Gerard Descendancy chart to this point (30.Cecily6, 19.Joan5, 12.Richard4, 7.Richard3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1460 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 20 Jun 1494.

    Peter married Margery Stanley about 1476. Margery (daughter of William Stanley and Margaret Bromley) was born about 1458; died after 1505. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 63. Jane Gerard  Descendancy chart to this point died on 5 May 1510.
    2. 64. Thomas Gerard  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1488 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 7 Nov 1523 in Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England.

  8. 46.  Margery Atherton Descendancy chart to this point (31.William6, 20.William5, 13.Agnes4, 8.Ralph3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1)

    Margery married John Ireland in 1460. John (son of William Ireland and Ellen Hanford) was born in of Hale, Lancashire, England; died in 1462. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 65. William Ireland  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Hale, Lancashire, England; died in 1503.

  9. 47.  Anne Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (32.Thomas6, 21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1)

    Anne married John Gresley before 1455. John (son of John Gresley and Elizabeth Clarell) was born about 1418 in of Drakelow, Derbyshire, England; died on 30 Jan 1487. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 66. Thomasine Gresley  Descendancy chart to this point

  10. 48.  Thomas Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (33.John6, 21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born before 1406 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 11 Feb 1459; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

    Notes:

    Lieutenant-Governor of Ireland. Constable of Chester. Chamberlain of North Wales. Justice of Chester. Chief Steward of the Duchy of Lancaster. Controller of the royal household. Privy concillor.

    Knight of the shire for Lancashire 1427, 1433, 1439, 1442, 1447, 1449, 1450, 1453, 1455. Summoned to Parliament by writ dated 15 Jan 1456.

    Thomas Stanley (d. 1459) = Joan Goushill
    Katherine Stanley = John Savage (1422-1495)
    Margaret Savage = John Honford (1435-1480)
    Katherine Honford (d. 1529) = John Mainwaring (1471-1516)
    Randall Mainwaring (1495-1557) = Elizabeth Brereton
    Margaret Mainwaring (1521-1590) = Arthur Mainwaring (1520-1590)
    Mary Mainwaring (1541-1578) = Richard Cotton (1541-1602)
    Frances Cotton (1573-1646) = George Abell (1561-1630)
    Robert Abell (1605-1663) = Joanna
    Mary Abell (b. 1642) = Samuel Luther (1638-1716)
    Mehitable Luther (1676-1764) = Ebenezer Cole (1671-1719)
    Ebenezer Cole (b. 1715) = Prudence Miller (b. 1721)
    Ruth Cole (b. 1744) = John Thurber (b. 1735)
    John Thurber (1774-1826) = Freelove Thurston (1778-1832)
    Sarah Ann Thurber = Peleg Hull
    Sarah Emeline Hull = Leander Thurber (1832-1867)
    Charles Leander Thurber (1867-1939) = Mary Agnes Fisher (1868-1955)
    James Grover Thurber (1894-1961)

    Family/Spouse: Joan Goushill. Joan (daughter of Robert Goushill and Elizabeth Fitz Alan) was born about 1401; died before 27 Apr 1466. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 67. Margaret Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point died about 1481.
    2. 68. Katherine Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.
    3. 69. John Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Weever and Over Alderley, Cheshire, England; died between 1476 and 1485.
    4. 70. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1433; died on 29 Jul 1504 in Lathom, Cheshire, England; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

  11. 49.  Thomas Grosvenor Descendancy chart to this point (34.Joan6, 22.Richard5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Drayton, Staffordshire, England; died after 1450.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Hulme, Cheshire, England
    • Alternate birth: of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England

    Family/Spouse: Isabella Peshale. Isabella (daughter of Richard Peshale and Margaret Malpas) was born in of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 71. Randle Grosvenor  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1450 in of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England; died on 1 Mar 1522.

  12. 50.  Elizabeth Mainwaring Descendancy chart to this point (35.William6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Called "Anne Mainwaring" in some sources, including AR8.

    Family/Spouse: Richard Charlton. Richard (son of Robert Charlton and Mary Corbet) was born in 1450 in of Apley near Wellington, Shropshire, England; died in 1522. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 72. Anne Charlton  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1480.
    2. 73. Anne Charlton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1480.

  13. 51.  John Bromley Descendancy chart to this point (36.Margery6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Baddington, Cheshire, England; died after 26 Apr 1467.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1486

    Notes:

    Fought on the Lancastrian side at Blore Heath; he was one of the few Lancastrian survivors.

    Said to have had a relationship with Martha Woodville, a sister of Elizabeth Woodville who married Edward IV.

    John married Joane Hexstall before 18 Mar 1453. Joane (daughter of William Hexstall and Margaret Bromley) died after 26 Apr 1467. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 74. Isabel Bromley  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 75. Margaret Bromley  Descendancy chart to this point died in 1469.

  14. 52.  William Mainwaring Descendancy chart to this point (37.Ralph6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Wich Malbank, Cheshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Tytley. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 76. George Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Exeter, Devon, England.

  15. 53.  Robert de Fouleshurst Descendancy chart to this point (38.Cecily6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born on 17 Oct 1418 in of Crewe, Cheshire, England; died on 3 Dec 1498.

    Robert married Joan Vernon between March 1422 and Aug 1422. Joan (daughter of Richard Vernon and Eleanor de Holes) was born on 3 Jul 1417; died after 1467. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 55. Cecily Fouleshurst  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1440; died on 24 May 1502.


Generation: 8

  1. 54.  William Troutbeck Descendancy chart to this point (39.Margery7, 25.Thomas6, 16.Margery5, 10.John4, 5.Maud3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born between 1432 and 1435 in of Dunham-on-the-Hill, Cheshire, England; died on 23 Sep 1459 in Blore Heath, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Troutneck chapel, St. Mary's, Chester, Cheshire, England.

    Notes:

    Slain at the battle of Blore Heath, fighting on the Lancastrian side.

    William Troutbeck (d. 1459) = Margaret Stanley (d. 1481)
    Robert Troutbeck (d. 1517) = ?
    Mary Troutbeck = Edmund Denny
    Joyce Denny (1506-1559) = William Walsingham (d. 1534)
    Sir Francis Walsingham (1530-1590) = Ursula St. Barbe (d. 1602)

    TSW is a 3rd cousin 13 times removed to Sir Francis Walsingham.

    William married Margaret Stanley before 17 Dec 1444. Margaret (daughter of Thomas Stanley and Joan Goushill) died about 1481. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 77. Adam Troutbeck  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Thornton-le-Moors, Cheshire, England; died between 1493 and 1510.
    2. 78. Joan Troutbeck  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1459.

  2. 55.  Cecily Fouleshurst Descendancy chart to this point (40.Joan7, 26.Eleanor6, 16.Margery5, 10.John4, 5.Maud3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1440; died on 24 May 1502.

    Notes:

    After her husband's death she took a vow of chastity.

    Cecily married Thomas Gerard about 1440. Thomas (son of Peter Gerard and Isabel Strangeways) was born on 15 Jul 1431 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Mar 1490. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 79. Peter Gerard  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1460 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 20 Jun 1494.

  3. 56.  Ralph Brereton Descendancy chart to this point (41.Randal7, 27.Randal6, 17.Randal5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Iscoyd, Flintshire, Wales; died between 20 May 1530 and 12 Jul 1531.

    Notes:

    Ormerod has him as "Randle" Brereton and calls him chamberlain of Chester, 21 Hen. 7., and knight of the body to Henry VII. But this individual is given a different wife, and may be a different person.

    Family/Spouse: Joan. Joan died after 12 Jul 1531. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 80. Margery Brereton  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 57.  John Aston Descendancy chart to this point (42.Isabel7, 28.William6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Brocton in Baswich, Staffordshire, England; died in 1483.

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Delves. Elizabeth (daughter of John Delves and Ellen Egerton) died after 1518. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 81. John Aston  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1465 in of Haywood in Colwich, Staffordshire, England; died on 28 Mar 1523; was buried in Leigh, Staffordshire, England.

  5. 58.  William Mainwaring Descendancy chart to this point (43.Margaret7, 29.Eleanor6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Wich Malbank, Cheshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Tytley. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 82. George Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Exeter, Devon, England.

  6. 59.  John Savage Descendancy chart to this point (44.John7, 29.Eleanor6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) died on 18 Oct 1492 in Bouteville, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.

    Notes:

    Pallbearer to Edward IV. Said to have had charge of the left wing at Bosworth Field; subsequently made Knight of the Garter by Henry VII.

    Killed at the siege of Boulogne. According to J. D. Mackie, The Earlier Tudors 1485-1558 (Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1952), "The siege was not pressed hard, and save that Sir John Savage was killed nothing of note occured."

    "Traditionally, the wife of Sir John Savage is claimed to have been Dorothy Vernon, a descendant of the Vernons of Shipbrook, Cheshire. This claim is based upon the Visitation of Cheshire of 1580 [...T]here is no evidence that Dorothy Vernon even existed." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    "Sir John (V) Savage (d. 1492), who fought for Edward IV at Tewkesbury, became a royal carver and knight of the body, and was second in order of precedence when Edward was buried. He received many important grants, including that of the constableship of Hanley Castle, Worcestershire. As such close supporters of Edward IV, and associates of the Stanleys, it is not surprising that John (V) and his father seem to have been mistrusted by Richard III. Thomas Savage may have been abroad during the latter's reign and possibly acted as the Savages' direct contact with Henry Tudor. According to Polydore Vergil, John (V) was one of those who 'invited' Tudor to invade. He certainly played an important role at Bosworth, where he commanded the left wing. The author of Bosworth Feilde described him and his men, clad in their distinctive white livery hood:



    Sir John Savage, that hardy Knight,

    deathes dentes he delt that day

    with many a white hood in fight,

    that sad men were at assay.



    As a result of this support, in 1486 he received an extensive grant in the north midlands of the forfeited estates of John, Lord Zouche, and Francis, Viscount Lovell, valued at £158 p.a. or more. He also received extensive grants of office, especially in Worcestershire and Gloucestershire. The support of the Savages for Henry Tudor guaranteed them a growing prominence at court, and at eight out of eleven council meetings for which evidence survives during the period June–July 1486 either John (V), or Thomas, or both, were present. Sir John (V) Savage led the force that seized Humphrey Stafford from sanctuary at Culham in 1486. [...] Sir John (V) was killed at the siege of Boulogne in 1492." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, citation details below]

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 83. Maud Savage  Descendancy chart to this point

  7. 60.  Thomas Savage, Archbishop of York Descendancy chart to this point (44.John7, 29.Eleanor6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) died on 3 Sep 1507 in Cawood Castle, Cawood, North Yorkshire, England; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 2 Sep 1507, Cawood Castle, Cawood, North Yorkshire, England


  8. 61.  Ellen Savage Descendancy chart to this point (44.John7, 29.Eleanor6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) died on 17 May 1491 in Bewganet, Sussex, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1492

    Ellen married Peter Legh about 1467. Peter (son of Peter Legh and Mabel Croft) was born about 1455 in of Lyme in Prestbury, Cheshire, England; died on 11 Aug 1527 in Lyme in Prestbury, Cheshire, England; was buried in Winwick, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 84. Peter Legh  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1479 in of Lyme in Prestbury, Cheshire, England; died on 4 Dec 1541 in Bradley-in-Burtonwood, Lancashire, England.

  9. 62.  Margaret Savage Descendancy chart to this point (44.John7, 29.Eleanor6, 18.William5, 11.William4, 6.William3, 2.Rose2, 1.Ralph1) died after Aug 1513.

    Notes:

    Dugdale, in the 1664-65 visitation of Lancashire (citation details below), calls her "Elizabeth, dau. of Sir John Savage".

    Margaret married Edmund Trafford after 1480. Edmund (son of John de Trafford and Elizabeth Assheton) was born about 1454 in of Trafford, Lancashire, England; died on 15 Aug 1513. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 85. Margery Trafford  Descendancy chart to this point died on 10 May 1540.
    2. 86. Edmund Trafford  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1485 in of Trafford, Lancashire, England; died on 28 Jun 1533.

  10. 63.  Jane Gerard Descendancy chart to this point (45.Peter7, 30.Cecily6, 19.Joan5, 12.Richard4, 7.Richard3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) died on 5 May 1510.

    Jane married Peter Legh before 1488. Peter (son of Peter Legh and Ellen Savage) was born about 1479 in of Lyme in Prestbury, Cheshire, England; died on 4 Dec 1541 in Bradley-in-Burtonwood, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  11. 64.  Thomas Gerard Descendancy chart to this point (45.Peter7, 30.Cecily6, 19.Joan5, 12.Richard4, 7.Richard3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1488 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died on 7 Nov 1523 in Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England.

    Notes:

    VCH Lancaster (citation details below) calls him "a turbulent and lawless man." He was killed while fighting the Scots at Berwick-upon-Tweed.

    Thomas married Margery Trafford before 19 Aug 1511. Margery (daughter of Edmund Trafford and Margaret Savage) died on 10 May 1540. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 87. William Gerard  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of the New Hall in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died before 1567.
    2. 88. Thomas Gerard  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1502 and 1512 in of Bryn in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England; died after 1550.

  12. 65.  William Ireland Descendancy chart to this point (46.Margery7, 31.William6, 20.William5, 13.Agnes4, 8.Ralph3, 3.Richard2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Hale, Lancashire, England; died in 1503.

    Family/Spouse: Eleanor Molyneux. Eleanor was born between 1450 and 1460. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 89. Alice Ireland  Descendancy chart to this point died after 31 Oct 1537.

  13. 66.  Thomasine Gresley Descendancy chart to this point (47.Anne7, 32.Thomas6, 21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1)

    Family/Spouse: Thomas Darell. Thomas (son of John Darell and Florence Chichele) was born in 1422. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 90. Agnes Darell  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1508.

  14. 67.  Margaret Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (48.Thomas7, 33.John6, 21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) died about 1481.

    Margaret married William Troutbeck before 17 Dec 1444. William (son of John Troutbeck and Margery Hulse) was born between 1432 and 1435 in of Dunham-on-the-Hill, Cheshire, England; died on 23 Sep 1459 in Blore Heath, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Troutneck chapel, St. Mary's, Chester, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 77. Adam Troutbeck  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Thornton-le-Moors, Cheshire, England; died between 1493 and 1510.
    2. 78. Joan Troutbeck  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1459.

  15. 68.  Katherine Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (48.Thomas7, 33.John6, 21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: John Savage, Mayor of Chester. John (son of John Savage and Eleanor Brereton) was born about 1423 in of Rocksavage, Cheshire, England; died on 22 Nov 1495; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 91. John Savage  Descendancy chart to this point died on 18 Oct 1492 in Bouteville, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.
    2. 92. Thomas Savage, Archbishop of York  Descendancy chart to this point died on 3 Sep 1507 in Cawood Castle, Cawood, North Yorkshire, England; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England.
    3. 93. Ellen Savage  Descendancy chart to this point died on 17 May 1491 in Bewganet, Sussex, England.
    4. 94. Margaret Savage  Descendancy chart to this point died after Aug 1513.

  16. 69.  John Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (48.Thomas7, 33.John6, 21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Weever and Over Alderley, Cheshire, England; died between 1476 and 1485.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Between 29 Mar 1470 and 1485

    John married Elizabeth Weever after 1446. Elizabeth (daughter of Thomas de Weever and Elizabeth) died on 17 Feb 1513. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 95. Margaret Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point

  17. 70.  Thomas Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (48.Thomas7, 33.John6, 21.Isabel5, 14.Joan4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1433; died on 29 Jul 1504 in Lathom, Cheshire, England; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

    Notes:

    1st Earl of Derby.

    Thomas married Eleanor Neville between 1455 and 1459. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Thomas married Margaret Beaufort in 1472. Margaret (daughter of John Beaufort and Margaret Beauchamp) was born on 31 May 1443 in Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England; died on 29 Jun 1509 in Westminster, Middlesex, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  18. 71.  Randle Grosvenor Descendancy chart to this point (49.Thomas7, 34.Joan6, 22.Richard5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born about 1450 in of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England; died on 1 Mar 1522.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Between 1450 and 1456, of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1455, of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Mainwaring. Margaret was born about 1460. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 96. Randall Grosvenor  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1480 in of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England; died between 1559 and 1560.

  19. 72.  Anne Charlton Descendancy chart to this point (50.Elizabeth7, 35.William6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born before 1480.

    Notes:

    Included to show that Richard Charlton and Elizabeth Mainwaring did in fact have two daughters named Anne.

    Family/Spouse: Francis Yonge. Francis was born in of Caynton in Edgmond, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  20. 73.  Anne Charlton Descendancy chart to this point (50.Elizabeth7, 35.William6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in 1480.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1480, of Apley near Wellington, Shropshire, England

    Anne married Randall Grosvenor about 1500. Randall (son of Randle Grosvenor and Margaret Mainwaring) was born about 1480 in of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England; died between 1559 and 1560. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 97. Elizabeth Grosvenor  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1515 in of Bellaport, Muckleston, Shropshire, England.

  21. 74.  Isabel Bromley Descendancy chart to this point (51.John7, 36.Margery6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1)

    Family/Spouse: William Needham. William (son of Thomas Needham and Maud Brereton) was born in of Cranage, Cheshire, England; died in 1505. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 98. Robert Needham  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Shavington in Adderley, Shropshire, England; died on 4 Jun 1556.

  22. 75.  Margaret Bromley Descendancy chart to this point (51.John7, 36.Margery6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) died in 1469.

    Family/Spouse: William Stanley. William (son of William Stanley and Alice Hoghton) was born about 1445 in of Hooton in Wirral, Cheshire, England; died in 1512. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 99. Margery Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1458; died after 1505.

  23. 76.  George Mainwaring Descendancy chart to this point (52.William7, 37.Ralph6, 23.Margery5, 15.Hugh4, 9.Hugh3, 4.Agatha2, 1.Ralph1) was born in of Exeter, Devon, England.

    George married Julian Spurway before 29 Mar 1548. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 100. Oliver Mainwaring  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Exeter, Devon, England; died before 1634.


 

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