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William II Malet

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  William II Malet was born before 1174 in of Curry Mallet, Langport, Somerset, England; died about 1216.

    Notes:

    Magna Carta surety. Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 25 Dec 1209 to 29 Sep 1212. Fought at Poitou.

    Family/Spouse: (Unknown first wife of William Malet). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Mabel Malet  Descendancy chart to this point died before 16 Oct 1249.
    2. 3. Hawise Malet  Descendancy chart to this point died after 4 May 1287.

    Family/Spouse: Alice Basset. Alice (daughter of Thomas Basset and Philippe Malbank) died about 1263. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Mabel Malet Descendancy chart to this point (1.William1) died before 16 Oct 1249.

    Mabel married Hugh de Vivonne before 6 Jul 1219. Hugh was born in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died before 16 Oct 1249. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. William de Forz  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died before 22 May 1259.
    2. 5. Hawise de Vivonne  Descendancy chart to this point died after 23 Jul 1269.

  2. 3.  Hawise Malet Descendancy chart to this point (1.William1) died after 4 May 1287.

    Hawise married Hugh Poyntz before 23 Mar 1217. Hugh (son of Nicholas Poyntz and Juliane Bardolf) was born in of Tockington, Gloucestershire, England; died before 4 Apr 1220. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Nicholas Poyntz  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1220 in of Curry Mallet, Langport, Somerset, England; died before 7 Oct 1273.

    Hawise married Robert de Muscegros before 11 Feb 1221. Robert (son of Richard de Muscegros) was born in of Deerhurst, Gloucestershire, England; died before 23 Jan 1254. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. John de Muscegros  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 10 Aug 1232 in of Charlton, Somerset, England; died before 8 May 1275.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  William de Forz Descendancy chart to this point (2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died before 22 May 1259.

    Notes:

    Also called William de Vivonne or de Vivonia, but according to Douglas Richardson (SGM, 13 Dec 2003), this William is nowhere on record calling himself anything but William de Forz, or (as Rosie Bevan pointed out the next day) variants such as Fort, Fortibus, etc. However, his father and both of his daughters used the Vivonne name.

    William married Maud de Ferrers about 30 Jul 1248. Maud (daughter of William de Ferrers and Sybil Marshal) was born about 1230; died on 12 Mar 1299. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Joan de Vivonne  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1251; died on 1 Jun 1314.
    2. 9. Cecily de Vivonne  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1257 in Chewton, Somerset, England; died on 10 Jan 1320 in Stoke-under-Hamden, Somerset, England.

  2. 5.  Hawise de Vivonne Descendancy chart to this point (2.Mabel2, 1.William1) died after 23 Jul 1269.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 14 Jul 1269

    Family/Spouse: Walter de Wahull. Walter (son of Saher de Wahull and Alice) was born about 1227 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died before 15 Jul 1269. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. John de Wahull  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1248 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died before 5 Apr 1296.

  3. 6.  Nicholas Poyntz Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1220 in of Curry Mallet, Langport, Somerset, England; died before 7 Oct 1273.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 24 Apr 1272

    Notes:

    Also called Poinz. Said to have married Isabel Dyall, daughter of Timothy Dyall. Fought in France in 1242, and in Wales in 1257. According to Richardson (citation details below), he joined the barons against Henry III as a follower of John Giffard. According to Bodine and Spalding (citation details below), "he appears to have remained loyal to the King during the Barons' war." Knighted by Oct 1270.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Hugh Poyntz  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 Aug 1252 in of Curry Mallet, Langport, Somerset, England; died before 4 Jan 1308.

  4. 7.  John de Muscegros Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born on 10 Aug 1232 in of Charlton, Somerset, England; died before 8 May 1275.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 10 Aug 1232, of Norton, Somerset, England
    • Alternate death: 1276

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Devon, 1261-63. Fought in Gascony in 1254. Sided with the barons against the King and was made by them constable of Salisbury castle.

    Family/Spouse: Cecily Avenal. Cecily (daughter of William Avenal and Aline) died before 10 Aug 1301. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Robert de Muscegros  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1252 in of Charlton Musgrove, Somerset, England; died on 27 Dec 1280.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Joan de Vivonne Descendancy chart to this point (4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born in 1251; died on 1 Jun 1314.

    Joan married Reynold fitz Peter before 3 Jan 1279. Reynold (son of Peter fitz Herbert and Alice fitz Robert) was born in of Blaen Llyfni, Cathedine, Brecconshire, Wales; died on 4 May 1286. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Reynold Fitz Reynold  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Hinton Martell, Dorset, England; died before 29 Aug 1328.
    2. 14. Peter fitz Reynold  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1274 in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died on 18 Nov 1322.

  2. 9.  Cecily de Vivonne Descendancy chart to this point (4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born about 1257 in Chewton, Somerset, England; died on 10 Jan 1320 in Stoke-under-Hamden, Somerset, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 10 Jan 1321, Stoke-under-Hamden, Somerset, England

    Notes:

    Also called Cicely le Fort.

    Family/Spouse: John de Beauchamp. John (son of Robert V de Beauchamp and Alice de Mohun) was born before 1247; died on 24 Oct 1283 in Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; was buried on 31 Oct 1283 in Stoke-under-Hamden, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. John de Beauchamp  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 Jul 1274 in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died after 20 Oct 1336.

  3. 10.  John de Wahull Descendancy chart to this point (5.Hawise3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born about 1248 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died before 5 Apr 1296.

    Notes:

    He was summoned to the 1283 council in Shrewsbury that pronounced the death sentence on David, brother of Llewellyn, Prince of Wales.

    "John was summoned in 1287 to attend the military council at Gloucester, had protection for going overseas in 1293, and in 1294 was ordered to join a Wahull muster for service in Gascony. He was summoned on 16 December 1295 for a campaign against the Scots, during which on 30 March 1296 the English army took the Scottish town of Berwick by assault. His arms, or, three crescents gules, were recorded in two rolls of arms from the reign of Edward I. He was dead by 5 April 1296, perhaps while on this campaign." [Ancestor Table: Hansen, citation details below.]

    John married Agnes de Pinkney between 1269 and 1272. Agnes (daughter of Henry de Pinkney and Mary) died after 13 Jun 1296. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Thomas de Wahull  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1273 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died before 30 Jan 1304.

  4. 11.  Hugh Poyntz Descendancy chart to this point (6.Nicholas3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born on 25 Aug 1252 in of Curry Mallet, Langport, Somerset, England; died before 4 Jan 1308.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 24 Dec 1307

    Notes:

    Knighted by June 1282. Fought in Wales in 1277, 1282, 1283, and 1304, in Gascony in 1297, and on the Scottish expeditions from 1298 to 1303. At the Battle of Falkirk, 22 Jul 1298; also present, as a knight banneret, at the siege of Caerlaverock in 1300. Summoned to Parliament by writs from 24 Jun 1295.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Nicholas Poyntz  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1278 in of Curry Mallet, Langport, Somerset, England; died before 12 Jul 1311.

  5. 12.  Robert de Muscegros Descendancy chart to this point (7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born in 1252 in of Charlton Musgrove, Somerset, England; died on 27 Dec 1280.

    Family/Spouse: (Unknown first wife of Robert de Muscegros). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Hawise de Muscegros  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 21 Dec 1276; died between 23 Jun 1340 and 22 Dec 1350.


Generation: 5

  1. 13.  Reynold Fitz Reynold Descendancy chart to this point (8.Joan4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born in of Hinton Martell, Dorset, England; died before 29 Aug 1328.

    Family/Spouse: Joan Martel. Joan (daughter of Roger Martel and Joan) was born about 1276; died before 1319. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 19. Herbert Fitz Reynold  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Hinton Martell, Dorset, England; died between 24 Apr 1316 and 29 Sep 1318.

  2. 14.  Peter fitz Reynold Descendancy chart to this point (8.Joan4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born about 1274 in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died on 18 Nov 1322.

    Family/Spouse: Ela Martel. Ela (daughter of Roger Martel and Joan) was born about 1273; died before 1309. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Roger Martel  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1295 in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died before 6 Dec 1322.

  3. 15.  John de Beauchamp Descendancy chart to this point (9.Cecily4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born on 25 Jul 1274 in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died after 20 Oct 1336.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 27 Jul 1274
    • Alternate death: 1 Jan 1337

    Notes:

    Fought at the Battle of Falkirk 22 Jul 1298; present at the siege of Caerlaverock Castle in 1300.

    "John Beauchamp, of Hatch afsd., s. and h., was b. 25 July 1274, and had seizin of his father's lands, 17 Sep. 1295. He was in the Scottish wars, and was sum., 26 Jan. 1296/7, to attend the King at Salisbury. He was sum. to Parl. 29 Dec. (1299) 28 Edw. I to 24 Aug. (1336) 9 Edw. III, by writs directed Johanni de Bello Campo de Somerset, whereby he may be be held to have become Lord Beauchamp. He was knighted with the Prince of Wales, 2 May 1306. In 1321 (14 Edw. II) he suc. to the extensive estates of his mother, which included Sturminster Marshal, Dorset, Bullingham, co. Cambridge, &c. Governor of Bridgwater Castle, 1325. He m., in or before 1301, Joan, said to have been da. of (---) Chenduit. She d. 9 Feb. 1327. He d. 1336, after 20 Oct., aged 62." [Complete Peerage II:48-49]

    John married Joan before 1302. Joan died on 9 Feb 1327. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Joan de Beauchamp  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died after 1342.
    2. 22. John de Beauchamp  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1306 in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died on 19 May 1343.

  4. 16.  Thomas de Wahull Descendancy chart to this point (10.John4, 5.Hawise3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born about 1273 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died before 30 Jan 1304.

    Notes:

    "In 1297 he was summoned to the council at Salisbury. He was summoned later that year for service against Scotland, and again in 1298 for a Scottish campaign. This latter campaign, under King Edward I, defeated the Scots led by Sir William Wallace near Falkirk. He was listed among the knights who took part in the king’s campaign in Galloway during 1300, defeating the Scots on the River Cree Estuary. In 1302/3 it was recorded that he held his barony of 'Wahulle' by the service of three knights’ fees." [Charles M. Hansen, citation details below.]

    Thomas married Hawise de Prayers before 1296. Hawise (daughter of Henry de Prayers) died after 1305. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. John de Wodhull  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 Nov 1302 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died before 30 Apr 1336.

  5. 17.  Nicholas Poyntz Descendancy chart to this point (11.Hugh4, 6.Nicholas3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1278 in of Curry Mallet, Langport, Somerset, England; died before 12 Jul 1311.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1279, of Curry Mallet, Langport, Somerset, England

    Nicholas married Maud de Acton before 9 Feb 1309. Maud (daughter of John de Acton and Helen) died on 15 Aug 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 24. John Poyntz  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Iron Acton, Gloucestershire, England; died on 24 Feb 1376.

  6. 18.  Hawise de Muscegros Descendancy chart to this point (12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born on 21 Dec 1276; died between 23 Jun 1340 and 22 Dec 1350.

    Notes:

    Or Musgrove.

    Hawise married John de Ferrers between 2 Feb 1298 and 13 Sep 1300. John (son of Robert de Ferrers and Eleanor de Bohun) was born on 20 Jun 1271 in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales; died about 27 Aug 1312 in Gascony, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. Eleanor de Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1360.
    2. 26. Robert de Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 Mar 1309 in of Chartley, Staffordshire, England; died on 28 Aug 1350.

    Hawise married John de Bures before 1315. John was born in of Boddington, Gloucestershire, England; died on 21 Dec 1350 in Boddington, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Katherine de Bures  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1316; died after Oct 1355.


Generation: 6

  1. 19.  Herbert Fitz Reynold Descendancy chart to this point (13.Reynold5, 8.Joan4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born in of Hinton Martell, Dorset, England; died between 24 Apr 1316 and 29 Sep 1318.

    Herbert married Lucy Peverel about 1311. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. Reynold Fitz Herbert  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Midsomer Norton, Somerset, England; died on 12 Sep 1346.

  2. 20.  Roger Martel Descendancy chart to this point (14.Peter5, 8.Joan4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born about 1295 in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died before 6 Dec 1322.

    Notes:

    Sometimes called Roger fitz Piers, but in fact he adopted his mother's surname.

    Roger married Joan del Ortiay before 30 Nov 1318. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 29. Henry fitz Roger  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 30 Nov 1318 in Curry Rivel, Somerset, England; died on 29 Jan 1352; was buried in Chewton Mendip, Somerset, England.

  3. 21.  Joan de Beauchamp Descendancy chart to this point (15.John5, 9.Cecily4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died after 1342.

    Joan married John de Cobham in 1314. John (son of Henry de Cobham and Maud de Morville) was born in of Cobham, Kent, England; died on 25 Feb 1355; was buried in Cobham, Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 30. Joan de Cobham  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Cobham, Kent, England; died before 15 May 1357; was buried in Newhouse Abbey, Lincolnshire, England.

  4. 22.  John de Beauchamp Descendancy chart to this point (15.John5, 9.Cecily4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born about 1306 in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died on 19 May 1343.

    Notes:

    2nd Lord Beauchamp of Somerset.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret de St. John. Margaret (daughter of John de St. John and Isabel de Courtenay) died on 19 Nov 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. Cecily de Beauchamp  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1321 and 1331; died on 7 Jun 1394.

  5. 23.  John de Wodhull Descendancy chart to this point (16.Thomas5, 10.John4, 5.Hawise3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born on 1 Nov 1302 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died before 30 Apr 1336.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1337

    Family/Spouse: Isabel. Isabel died after 20 Apr 1340. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 32. Thomas de Wodhull  Descendancy chart to this point was born after 1332; died before 1376.

  6. 24.  John Poyntz Descendancy chart to this point (17.Nicholas5, 11.Hugh4, 6.Nicholas3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born in of Iron Acton, Gloucestershire, England; died on 24 Feb 1376.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 21 Sep 1376

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Gloucestershire 1368-69, by which time he had been knighted.

    John married Elizabeth de Clanvowe before 1343. Elizabeth (daughter of Philip de Clanvowe and Philippa) died after 15 Jun 1359. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 33. Robert Poyntz  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Jun 1359 in Dewchurch in Irchinfield, Herefordshire, England; died on 15 Jun 1439 in Iron Acton, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in Iron Acton, Gloucestershire, England.

  7. 25.  Eleanor de Ferrers Descendancy chart to this point (18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) died after 1360.

    Eleanor married Thomas de Lathom before 21 May 1329. Thomas (son of Robert de Lathom and Katherine) was born in 1300 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 17 Sep 1370. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. Thomas de Lathom  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died before 20 Mar 1382; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

  8. 26.  Robert de Ferrers Descendancy chart to this point (18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born on 25 Mar 1309 in of Chartley, Staffordshire, England; died on 28 Aug 1350.

    Notes:

    Justice, 1340. King's chamberlain, July 1343. Vice-Admiral of the Fleet, 26 Apr 1344. He was at Crécy and the siege of Calais.

    Robert married Margaret before 20 Oct 1330. Margaret died after Aug 1331. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 35. John de Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 10 Aug 1331 in Southoe, Huntingdonshire, England; was christened about 10 Aug 1331 in Southoe, Huntingdonshire, England; died on 3 Apr 1367 in Nájera, La Rioja, Castile, Spain.

    Robert married Joan de la Mote before 1350. Joan died on 29 Jun 1375 in London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 36. Robert de Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1350 in of Willisham, Suffolk, England; died on 24 Dec 1380.

  9. 27.  Katherine de Bures Descendancy chart to this point (18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1316; died after Oct 1355.

    Katherine married Giles de Beauchamp before 21 May 1329. Giles (son of Walter de Beauchamp and Alice de Tony) died on 12 Oct 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 37. John de Beauchamp  Descendancy chart to this point died before 7 Feb 1389.


Generation: 7

  1. 28.  Reynold Fitz Herbert Descendancy chart to this point (19.Herbert6, 13.Reynold5, 8.Joan4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born in of Midsomer Norton, Somerset, England; died on 12 Sep 1346.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 13 Sep 1346

    Family/Spouse: Joan Hakeluyt. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 38. Alice Fitz Herbert  Descendancy chart to this point died between 15 Jul 1395 and 1 Sep 1395.

  2. 29.  Henry fitz Roger Descendancy chart to this point (20.Roger6, 14.Peter5, 8.Joan4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born on 30 Nov 1318 in Curry Rivel, Somerset, England; died on 29 Jan 1352; was buried in Chewton Mendip, Somerset, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 18 Feb 1352

    Henry married Elizabeth de Holand before 23 May 1340. Elizabeth (daughter of Robert de Holand and Maud la Zouche) was born in of Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England; died on 13 Jul 1387 in Chewton, Somerset, England; was buried in Chewton Mendip, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 39. John Fitz Roger  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1345 and 1352 in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died about 1371.

  3. 30.  Joan de Cobham Descendancy chart to this point (21.Joan6, 15.John5, 9.Cecily4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born in of Cobham, Kent, England; died before 15 May 1357; was buried in Newhouse Abbey, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 15 May 1357

    Joan married Philip le Despenser after Jun 1339. Philip (son of Philip le Despenser and Margaret de Goushill) was born on 6 Apr 1313 in Lincolnshire, England; died on 22 Aug 1349. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 40. Philip le Despenser  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 18 Oct 1342 in Gedney, Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 18 Oct 1342 in Gedney, Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England; died on 4 Oct 1401 in Goxhill, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England.
    2. 41. Hawise le Despenser  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1344 in of Goxhill, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England; died on 10 Apr 1414.

  4. 31.  Cecily de Beauchamp Descendancy chart to this point (22.John6, 15.John5, 9.Cecily4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born between 1321 and 1331; died on 7 Jun 1394.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1321

    Cecily married Roger de Seymour after Aug 1347. Roger was born in of Undy, Monmouthshire, Wales; died between 1359 and 29 Jan 1366. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 42. William de Seymour  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died on 25 Aug 1391.

  5. 32.  Thomas de Wodhull Descendancy chart to this point (23.John6, 16.Thomas5, 10.John4, 5.Hawise3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born after 1332; died before 1376.

    Notes:

    See the entry for his son Nicholas for an overview of the controversy over whether this Thomas de Wodhull existed. (Short version: We're reasonably convinced that he did and that he was the father of Nicholas who d. 1410 and a son of John who d. 1336.)

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 43. Nicholas de Wodhull  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1352 and 1353 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died on 24 Oct 1410.

  6. 33.  Robert Poyntz Descendancy chart to this point (24.John6, 17.Nicholas5, 11.Hugh4, 6.Nicholas3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born on 15 Jun 1359 in Dewchurch in Irchinfield, Herefordshire, England; died on 15 Jun 1439 in Iron Acton, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in Iron Acton, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 15 Jun 1359, Denchurch, Irchenfield, Herefordshire, England

    Robert married Katherine Fitz Nichol before Mar 1389. Katherine (daughter of Thomas Fitz Nichol and Margery) was born between 1368 and 1378; died about 1465; was buried in Iron Acton, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 44. Thomas Poyntz  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England; died before 18 Feb 1459.

  7. 34.  Thomas de Lathom Descendancy chart to this point (25.Eleanor6, 18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died before 20 Mar 1382; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 21 Mar 1382

    Notes:

    Also called Oskatel de Lathom, Lathum.

    In his Parentalia, Ormerod notes, regarding this Thomas de Lathom: "From the Inquisition of 1383, it appears that he married Isabel, daughter of Roger de Pilkington; and from a later Inquisition of 6 and 8 March 1385, it appears that he married a second wife, Jane, daughter of Hugh Venables of Kinderton. The same Inquisition states that Sir Thomas was imbecile for three months before his death, on which event his widow Jane, then enceinte, sent his body for burial at Buscough Priory, without priest or other attendance and married her previous paramour, Roger Fazackerley, in conjuction with whom she claimed dower on Wrightington, which was put to award in 7 Richard II."

    Family/Spouse: Joan de Venables. Joan (daughter of Hugh de Venables and Katherine de Hoghton) was born about 1330 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died after 18 Aug 1397. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 45. Isabel Lathom  Descendancy chart to this point died on 26 Oct 1414.

  8. 35.  John de Ferrers Descendancy chart to this point (26.Robert6, 18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 10 Aug 1331 in Southoe, Huntingdonshire, England; was christened about 10 Aug 1331 in Southoe, Huntingdonshire, England; died on 3 Apr 1367 in Nájera, La Rioja, Castile, Spain.

    Notes:

    Slain at the Battle of Nájera.

    John married Elizabeth de Stafford after 19 Oct 1349. Elizabeth (daughter of Ralph de Stafford and Margaret de Audley) died on 7 Aug 1375. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 46. Robert Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 31 Oct 1357 in of Chartley, Staffordshire, England; died on 12 Mar 1412; was buried in Merevale Abbey, Warwickshire, England.

  9. 36.  Robert de Ferrers Descendancy chart to this point (26.Robert6, 18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1350 in of Willisham, Suffolk, England; died on 24 Dec 1380.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 31 Dec 1380

    Notes:

    He was summoned to Parliament from 28 Dec 1375 to 20 Oct 1379 by writs directed Roberto de Ferrers de Wemme.

    Robert married Elizabeth le Boteler after 27 Sep 1369 in Acton Burnell, Shropshire, England. Elizabeth (daughter of William le Boteler and Elizabeth de Handesacre) was born about 1345; died on 19 Jun 1411. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 47. Robert Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1372 in of Wem, Shropshire, England; died before 29 Nov 1396.

  10. 37.  John de Beauchamp Descendancy chart to this point (27.Katherine6, 18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) died before 7 Feb 1389.

    Notes:

    Knight of the King's Chamber. Keeper of Gloucester Castle.

    John married Joan de Cherlton about 17 Apr 1351. Joan (daughter of John de Cherlton and Maud de Mortimer) died before 22 Sep 1374. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 48. William Beauchamp  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Powick, Worcestershire, England; died before 29 Sep 1420.


Generation: 8

  1. 38.  Alice Fitz Herbert Descendancy chart to this point (28.Reynold7, 19.Herbert6, 13.Reynold5, 8.Joan4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) died between 15 Jul 1395 and 1 Sep 1395.

    Alice married Thomas West before 1365. Thomas (son of Thomas West and Eleanor de Cantelowe) was born about 1321 in of Roughcombe, Wiltshire, England; died on 3 Sep 1386. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 49. Thomas West  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1365 in of Oakhanger, Hampshire, England; died on 19 Apr 1405.

  2. 39.  John Fitz Roger Descendancy chart to this point (29.Henry7, 20.Roger6, 14.Peter5, 8.Joan4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born between 1345 and 1352 in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died about 1371.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1372

    John married Alice before 26 Apr 1369. Alice died on 27 Mar 1426; was buried in Newenham Abbey, Devon, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 50. Elizabeth Fitz Roger  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Aug 1370 in of Chewton, Somerset, England; died on 15 Apr 1414.

  3. 40.  Philip le Despenser Descendancy chart to this point (30.Joan7, 21.Joan6, 15.John5, 9.Cecily4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born on 18 Oct 1342 in Gedney, Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 18 Oct 1342 in Gedney, Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England; died on 4 Oct 1401 in Goxhill, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England.

    Notes:

    Accompanied John of Gaunt to Britanny in 1378. Summoned to Parliament by writs, 17 Dec 1387 to 3 Oct 1400.

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth. Elizabeth died before 1401; was buried in Newhouse Abbey, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 51. Joan le Despenser  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 52. Alice le Despenser  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1380.
    3. 53. Philip le Despenser  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1365 in of Goxhill, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England; died on 20 Jun 1424.

  4. 41.  Hawise le Despenser Descendancy chart to this point (30.Joan7, 21.Joan6, 15.John5, 9.Cecily4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born about 1344 in of Goxhill, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England; died on 10 Apr 1414.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1345

    Hawise married Andrew Luttrell after 7 Sep 1363. Andrew (son of Geoffrey III Luttrell and Agnes de Sutton) was born on 27 Mar 1313 in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England; died on 6 Sep 1390; was buried in St. Andrew's, Irnham, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 54. Andrew Luttrell  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1364 in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England; died on 31 Dec 1397.

  5. 42.  William de Seymour Descendancy chart to this point (31.Cecily7, 22.John6, 15.John5, 9.Cecily4, 4.William3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died on 25 Aug 1391.

    Family/Spouse: Margery de Brockbury. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 55. Roger Seymour  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 3 Jul 1370 in of Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England; died in 1420.

  6. 43.  Nicholas de Wodhull Descendancy chart to this point (32.Thomas7, 23.John6, 16.Thomas5, 10.John4, 5.Hawise3, 2.Mabel2, 1.William1) was born between 1352 and 1353 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died on 24 Oct 1410.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Pateshull, Bedfordshire, England

    Notes:

    Also called Wodehyll. Sheriff of Wiltshire 1381-82.

    Richardson's Royal Ancestry, following various earlier sources, gives him as a son of a Thomas de Wodhull (d. ~1376), himself a son of John de Wodhull (1302-1336) and his wife Isabel (d. 1340). But in an SGM post on 18 Aug 2020, Richardson repudiated that model, based on a lack of contemporary evidence that this Thomas de Wodhull ever existed. Richardson argued that, to the contrary, the Nicholas de Wodhull who died in 1410 was the same man as the Nicholas de Wodhull who was a son of John de Wodhull who died in 1336, this Nicholas having been executor for his brother John in 1349.

    Writing on Wikitree, Andrew Lancaster was concerned with some chronological problems with Richardson's solution: "The most direct evidence of his identity comes from IPMs of Eleanor and Elizabeth in 1376. Three different juries in three different counties all name the heir as Nicholas Wodhull, brother of their grandfather John de Wodhull (d. 1348). This would seem straightforward, however, there is a problem. The IPMs also give the age of Nicholas as variously aged 24 and aged 30 and more. These ages are impossible for Nicholas to be the son of a man who died in 1336. So either the birth dates are wrong, or the identification of the heir as a son of John de Wahull (d. 1336) is wrong. […] In a completely separate IPM he was said to be aged 50 and more in 1403 (b. ~1353). These ages are impossible for Nicholas to be the son of a man who died in 1336. Nicholas Wodhull was sheriff when he died in 1410; no one in their 80s would ever be appointed sheriff."

    Lancaster's solution was to postulate that the Nicholas de Wodhull who died in 1410 was a son of the Nicholas de Wodhull who is known to have been a younger son of the John de Wodhull who died in 1336. As Lancaster observes, this solution "has the advantage of relieving the chronological difficulties—a birth date of c. 1350 for Nicholas Woodhull now fits perfectly for him to be the son of someone born in the late 1320s. It no longer means his son and heir was born while he was in his 60s. He was no longer too old to hold the position of sheriff in 1381 [sic—Lancaster presumably meant 1410, as he asserted earlier]. This solution does mean that the IPMs were wrong in saying that the heir of Elizabeth and Eleanor Wodhull was their great-uncle Nicholas Wodhull; it should have said the heir was the son of the their great-uncle Nicholas Wodhull."

    To our mind it long seemed like the choice was between believing that several IPMs misstated the age of the Nicholas de Wodhull, or that several IPMs misstated his relationship to the recently-deceased Eleanor and Elizabeth Wodhull, heiresses to the barony. It's worth noting that IPMs, including these, did not usually give precise ages; they simply stated a person's age as X number of years "or more", because the concern was simply to establish that they were old enough to inherit, or to do some other thing that carried a minimum age requirement. Whereas IPMs were generally quite fastidious about establishing exact genealogical relationships, because the whole point of the exercise was to determine who inherited what. For this reason, we were inclined to go with Richardson's model, in which the Nicholas de Wodhull who died in 1410 was the Nicholas de Wodhull known to have been a son of John who died in 1336, and that this Nicholas simply lived a very, but not impossibly, long life.

    However, in 2023, Charles M. Hansen (citation details below) pointed out in The Genealogist that while no precisely-contemporary evidence can be found for the existence of Thomas de Wodhull or for him as the father of Nicholas de Wodhull who died in 1410, multiple records from a legal dispute in the 1470s clearly say that Thomas existed and was the father of Nicholas -- and Hansen further showed that there is no particular reason to disbelieve these records, because no possible outcome to this legal dispute would have been altered by the existence or nonexistence of Thomas de Wodhull. In the course of the dispute, multiple pedigrees were entered into evidence showing Thomas as father of Nicholas and son of John who died in 1336, and no party to the dispute challenged this detail. Additionally, a son of our Nicholas de Wodhull who died in 1410, Richard Wodhull (d. 1470), called by a contemporary "the best man of lawe in Wilteshire", appears to have considered his paternal grandfather to have been Thomas de Wodhull, through whom he inherited the manor of Little Durnford. Finally, Hansen pointed out, in regard to the lack of contemporary evidence for Thomas de Wodhull, that "it should be noted that he was not a tenant-in-chief, as he would have initially held the manor of Little Durnford from his older brother, Sir John Wodhull (d. 1348) and then from Sir John's heirs. As he was not a tenant-in-chief, no inquitision post mortem (IPM) would have been held upon his death, a frequent source for names during this period."

    So at the risk of seeming irresolute, we're currently persuaded by Hansen that Thomas de Wodhull existed after all and was the father of Nicholas (d. 1410) and a son of John (d. 1336).

    (As a footnote, we've been, so far, unable to verify that this Nicholas de Wodhull was, as Andrew Lancaster asserted, a sheriff in 1410. The 1898 List of Sheriffs for England and Wales from the Earliest Times to A.D. 1831 (Public Records Offices Lists and Indexes 9) lists Nicholas de Wodehull only once, as sheriff of Wiltshire from 13 Oct 1381 to 24 Nov 1382. Searching on all the variant spellings of Wodhull has yielded us nothing else.)

    Nicholas married Margaret Foxcote before 1367. Margaret (daughter of John Foxcote and Christian) died after 29 Aug 1405. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 56. Thomas Wodhull  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1387 in of Odell, Bedfordshire, England; died on 22 Mar 1421 in Baugé, Anjou, France.

  7. 44.  Thomas Poyntz Descendancy chart to this point (33.Robert7, 24.John6, 17.Nicholas5, 11.Hugh4, 6.Nicholas3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born in of Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England; died before 18 Feb 1459.

    Family/Spouse: Jane. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 57. Margaret Poyntz  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1499.

  8. 45.  Isabel Lathom Descendancy chart to this point (34.Thomas7, 25.Eleanor6, 18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) died on 26 Oct 1414.

    Notes:

    Ormerod, both in his history of Cheshire and in Parentalia, gives this Isabel as a daughter of Thomas Lathom's first wife, also Isabel, daughter of Roger de Pilkington. But the Feet of Fines for Yorkshire dated Quindene of Easter, 50 Edw. III, 1376, contains the lines "remainder to Thomas son of the same Thomas de Lathum and the heirs male of his body; remainder to Isabel daughter of Thomas de Lathum and Joan and the heirs male of her body." Which might indicate that Thomas was a son of the first marriage, but clearly shows that Isabel was a daughter of the second.

    Isabel married John Stanley, Titular King of Man before 1385. John (son of William de Stanley and Alice) was born about 1350 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 6 Jan 1414 in Ardee, Louth, Ireland; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 58. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Elford, Staffordshire, England; died on 13 May 1463; was buried in Elford, Staffordshire, England.
    2. 59. John Stanley, Titular King of Man  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1386 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Nov 1437.

  9. 46.  Robert Ferrers Descendancy chart to this point (35.John7, 26.Robert6, 18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born on 31 Oct 1357 in of Chartley, Staffordshire, England; died on 12 Mar 1412; was buried in Merevale Abbey, Warwickshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 31 Oct 1359, of Chartley, Staffordshire, England
    • Alternate death: 13 Mar 1412
    • Alternate death: 12 Mar 1413
    • Alternate death: 13 Mar 1413

    Notes:

    Robert Ferrers and Margaret le Despenser were fourth cousins, being both Gx3-grandchildren of Gilbert de Clare (1243-1295) and Joan of Acre (1272-1307).

    Robert married Margaret le Despenser before 14 Jul 1389. Margaret (daughter of Edward le Despenser and Elizabeth Burghersh) died on 3 Nov 1415; was buried in Merevale Abbey, Warwickshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 60. Philippa Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point died after 6 Oct 1434; was buried in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England.
    2. 61. Edmund Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1389 in of Chartley, Staffordshire, England; died on 17 Dec 1435.

  10. 47.  Robert Ferrers Descendancy chart to this point (36.Robert7, 26.Robert6, 18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1372 in of Wem, Shropshire, England; died before 29 Nov 1396.

    Robert married Joan Beaufort before 30 Sep 1390. Joan (daughter of John of Gaunt and Catherine de Roet) was born about 1379; died on 13 Nov 1440 in Howden, Yorkshire, England; was buried in Lincoln Cathedral, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 62. Elizabeth Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1393; died in 1434; was buried in Church of the Black Friars, York, Yorkshire, England.
    2. 63. Mary Ferrers  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1394; died on 25 Jan 1458.

  11. 48.  William Beauchamp Descendancy chart to this point (37.John7, 27.Katherine6, 18.Hawise5, 12.Robert4, 7.John3, 3.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born in of Powick, Worcestershire, England; died before 29 Sep 1420.

    Notes:

    Chamberlain to Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester. Constable of Gloucester Castle. Sheriff of Worcestershire 1401-02. Sheriff of Gloucestershire 1403-04, 1413-14. Knight of the shire for Worcestershire 1407, 1413, 1414, and 1416.

    William married Katherine Usflete before 29 Jun 1392. Katherine (daughter of Gerard de Usflete) died after 3 Dec 1436. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 64. John Beauchamp  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Powick, Worcestershire, England; died on 13 Apr 1475; was buried in Dominican Friars, Worcester, Worcestershire, England.


 

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