Hamo de Valeines

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Like many sources, The Wallop Family erroneously gives this Theobald as a son of Robert de Valognes and a grandson of Peter de Valognes. See Raymond Phair's post to SGM of 9 Apr 1999, citing Early Yorkshire Charters volume 5 to the effect that no connection has been discovered to the Valognes line of Peter and Robert. The present line usually spelled its name Valeines.

Family/Spouse: Helewise. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Hervey Walter. Hervey (son of Hervey Walter) was born in of Weeton, Amounderness, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Ranulph de Glanville. Ranulph (son of Hervey de Glanville and Matilda) was born about 1112 in Stratford St. Andrew, Saxmundham, Suffolk, England; died before 1190. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Ralph d'Aubeney. Ralph was born in of Aubourn, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Between 4 Aug 1205 and 14 Feb 1206
• Alternate death: Between 4 Aug 1205 and 29 Sep 1205
• Alternate death: Bef 12 Feb 1206

Notes:

Also called Theobald fitz Walter; Theobald Butler. Chief Butler of England; first Chief Butler of Ireland. Sheriff of Lancashire 1194; justice itinerant 1197.

He was raised in the remarkable household of his uncle, the justiciar of England Ranulph de Glanville, along with his brother Hubert Walter (who would become justiciar of England, chancellor of England, and Archbishop of Canterbury); Geoffrey fitz Peter (who would succeed Hubert Walter as justiciar); and, for a few years in the early 1180s, the future king John.

He was not the founder of Cockersand Abbey in Lancashire as reported in CP II; this is corrected in CP XIV. He did, however, found the Abbey of Nenagh. co. Tipperary, 1200; the Abbey of Wotheny, co. Limerick, 1205; and the monastery of Arklow, co. Wicklow.

"Theobald Walter or Fitz Walter, s. and h. of Hervey Walter, of West Dereham, Norfolk (owner of large estates in Norfolk and Suffolk), by Maud, da. and coh. of Theobald de Valoignes, accompanied John, Count of Mortain, Lord of Ireland (afterward King John), in 1185 into Ireland, who conferred on him vast estates in that Kingdom, including (before 1189) the fief of Arldow, &c., and (in or before May 1 192) the important office of Butler [I.], a dignity which, of itself, probably comprised (even if it did not comprise more than) Baronial rank and position for himself and his successors. He is said subsequently to have obtained the valuable monopoly of the prisage of wines [I.], and is styled Theobald Butler certainly as early as 1199. Returning to England, he obtained from Richard I, in 1194, a grant of the Wapentake of Amounderness with the Lordship of Preston, Lancs. He was Sheriff of Lancashire, personally or by deputy 1194-99. In 1197 he was one of the Justices Itinerant. He founded the Abbey of Nenagh, co. Tipperary 1200; the Abbey of Wotheny, co. Limerick (1205), and the monastery of Arklow, co. Wicklow. He m., in or shortly before 1200, Maud, da. of Robert le Vavasour with whom he acquired the manors of Edlington, co. York, Narborough, co. Leicester, &c. He d. between 4 Aug. 1205 and 14 Feb. 1205/6, and was bur. at Wotheny Abbey afsd. His widow m., in 1207, before 1 Oct., Fulk Fitzwarin." [Complete Peerage 2:447-48, as corrected by Volume 14.]

Theobald married Maud le Vavasour before 1201. Maud (daughter of Robert le Vavasour and (Unknown) de Birkin) died before 1226. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

He was raised in the household of his uncle, the justiciar of England Ranulph de Glanville, along with his brother Theobald Walter (who would become chief butler of England and Ireland and the founder of enduring lordships in Munster and Leinster); Geoffrey fitz Peter (who would succeed Hubert as justiciar, serving in that office while Hubert was chancellor); and, for a few years in the early 1180s, the future king John.

One of the truly remarkable figures of his day, he was an essential part of England's ecclesiastical and secular power structures from the later years of Henry II all the way to king John. Parallel to his ecclesiastical career, first as bishop of Salisbury and then as Archbishop of Canterbury, he was justiciar of England under Richard and then chancellor of England under John. In both offices he was a reformer of uncommon energy. Among his many innovations was the triplicate chirograph record now known as the "feet of fines," so crucial to modern historical and genealogical research.

As a sidebar, he can also lay claim to having been England's most quietly effective Crusader. He arrived to the Holy Land in September 1190 in an expedition that included his uncle Ranulph, the then-archbishop Baldwin of Canterbury, and the earl of Derby. Conditions were dire, and by November all three of those worthies were dead. Hubert then set about reorganizing matters. He was an executor of Baldwin's will, so he was able to use some of the dead archbishop's possessions to pay the common soldiers the wages owed them. He personally led sorties against Saladin. By the time Richard arrived in June 1191, the crusader encampment was in far better shape. Hubert continued to be essential, not just as a competent commander, but also as go-between in the endless disputes between temperamental crusader leaders. When Richard took sick in 1192, it was Hubert who arranged a truce with Saladin; shortly afterward, Hubert negotiated the longer-term treaty with Saladin that gave Western Christians access to Jerusalem and to restored Latin services in Bethlehem and Nazareth. As everybody knows, Richard was taken captive in the Holy Roman Empire on his way back to England and Normandy. Inevitably, it was Hubert Walter who was among the first of Richard's subjects to reach him in captivity, and it was Hubert Walter who negotiated the terms for his release.

Notes:

Or Helewise.

Family/Spouse: Robert fitz Ralph. Robert was born in of Middleham, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: William de Auberville. William (son of Hugh d'Auberville and Wymarca) was born before 1130 in of Langdon, Kent, England; died about 1196. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Robert de Gant. Robert (son of Walter de Gant and Maud of Brittany) was born in of Folkingham, Bourne, Lincolnshire, England; died in 1191; was buried in Vaudey Abbey, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also called Maud Butler.

Family/Spouse: Gerald de Prendergast. Gerald (son of Philip de Prendergast and Maud de Quincy) was born in of Enniscorthy in Templeshanbo, Wexford, Ireland; died in Aug 1251. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1200, of Boxted, Suffolk, England
• Alternate death: 19 Jul 1230, Poitou, Aquitaine, France

Notes:

Also called Theobald Walter. Second Chief Butler of Ireland.

"Theobald Butler, or le Botiller, only s. and h., aged 6 years in 1206. He had livery of his estates 2 July 1221 and 18 July 1222. He was sum. cum equis et armis to attend the King into Brittany, 26 Oct. 1229, as Theobaldus Pincerna. Was Lord Justice [I.], 1247. He m., 1stly, Joan, sister and in her issue coh. of John du Marais, da. of Geoffrey Du M., Justiciar [I.]. He m., 2ndly (shortly after 4 Sep. 1225, when the King requests such marriage), Rohese, only da. and h. of Nicholas de Verdon, of Alton, co. Stafford, which Rohese was heiress of Croxden, &c., and Foundress of Grace Dieu Monastery, co. Leicester. He d. 19 July 1230, in Poitou, and was bur. in the Abbey of Arklow. His widow d. before 22 Feb. 1246/7." [Complete Peerage II:448]

Theobald married Rohese de Verdun after 4 Sep 1225. Rohese (daughter of Nicholas de Verdun and Clemencia) died before Feb 1247. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Justice.

Family/Spouse: Mary le Bigod. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also called Maud de Boteler.

Maud married John Fitz Alan before 1240. John (son of John Fitz Alan and Isabel d'Aubigny) was born about 1223 in of Clun, Shropshire, England; died before 10 Nov 1267. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 21 Oct 1274

Notes:

Also called Sir John le Botiller; Sir John le Boteler; John le Botiller de Verdun.

Ally of the King against Simon de Montfort. Went to Sicily, 1271, on crusade with Lord Edward (later Edward I).

The Wallop Family claims that has was "slain in Ireland", a circumstance and place not mentioned in RA. CP says "He is said to have d. 21 Oct 1274" and footnotes this with: "Though the writ appears to have been issued, 17 Oct. [...] According to the Annals of Clonmacnoise, he and 13 knights were poisoned together in England."

John married Margaret de Lacy before 20 Apr 1242. Margaret (daughter of Gilbert de Lacy and Isabel le Bigod) died in 1256. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Eleanor de Bohun before 1267. Eleanor (daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Maud of Avenbury) died after 10 Jun 1278. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: of Middleham, Yorkshire, England

Family/Spouse: Anastasia de Percy. Anastasia (daughter of William de Percy and Joan Briwerre) died before 28 Apr 1272. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Lord of Spennithorne.

Family/Spouse: Bertrama. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

"Fought in Ireland, 1210; attended the King at the siege of Bytham Castle, 1221; Warden of the Sea Ports from Portsmouth to Sandwich, 1228." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

Family/Spouse: Clarice de Gestling. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Geoffrey de Armenters. Geoffrey (son of Henry de Armenters and Reine) was born in of Stowe, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Summoned to Parliament by writ, 24 Dec 1264. Fought at the battle of Northampton, 6 Apr 1264.

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: 14 Sep 1246, of Clun, Shropshire, England

Notes:

Chief Butler of England.

"John Fitz Alan, feudal lord of Clun and Oswestry, and (according to the admission of 1433 abovenamed) Earl of Arundel, only s. and h., b. 14 Sep. 1246. He did homage for his estates 10 Dec. 1267. He, also (as Courthope remarks), though '22 years at his father's decease, was never known as Earl of Arundel, and it is incredible that, if he had ever borne that title, as annexed to the Castle and Honour, the fact would have been omitted in the inquisition which finds him to have died seized (1272), 56 Hen. III, of that Castle and Honour held by the 4th part of a Barony.' He m. Isabel, da. of Roger de Mortimer, of Wigmore, by Maud, da and coh. of William de Briouze, of Brecknock. He d. 18 Mar. 1271/2, and was bur. in Haughmond Abbey, Salop." [Complete Peerage I:240]

John married Isabella de Mortimer before 14 May 1260. Isabella (daughter of Roger de Mortimer and Maud de Briouze) died before 1 Apr 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 24 Jun 1295 to 11 Jun 1309. Styled himself constable of Ireland, 1282-84.

Thebaud married Margery de Bohun before 6 Nov 1276. Margery (daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Maud of Avenbury) died between 1280 and 1304. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Maud married John de Grey before 1275 and 1276. John (son of Reynold de Grey and Maud de Longchamp) was born about 1268 in of Wilton, Yorkshire, England; died on 28 Oct 1323 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also called Mary of Middleham. "She married Robert de Neville, Lord of Raby, who soon after, violating the sanctity of another domestic hearth, met with speedy retribution. Being detected in one of his clandestine visits to a lady in Craven, he was so horribly mutilated by her husband that he died of his wounds, on the 6th of June, 1271. Mary of Middleham did not again enter the bonds of wedlock, but lived on her own inheritance, and dying, in 1320, was buried beside her husband in the choir at Coverham. Ralph, the only child of the marriage, inherited Raby, on the death of his grandfather; but he was so indolent and careless in the management of his affairs, that his mother settled Middleham and the rest of her manors on her grandson, Robert Neville, commonly called 'The Peacock of the North.'" (History and Directory of Old Yorkshire by T. F. Bulmer, 1890.)

Mary married Robert de Neville about 1260. Robert (son of Robert de Neville and (Unknown first wife of Robert de Neville)) was born before 1240 in of Middleham, Yorkshire, England; died on 6 Aug 1271. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Lord of Spennithorne.

Family/Spouse: Tiffany de Lascelles. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

The predominant view of Clarice de Auberville, reflected in Royal Ancestry, Leo van de Pas's Genealogics, etc., is that she was the second wife of the Fulk Fitzwarine who married, first, Maud de Vavasour, and that this Fulk Fitzwarine, generally numbered "III" by later historians and genealogists, died in 1258.

But in 2003, John P. Ravilious put forward a strong argument that Fulk III died in or just before 1235, that Maud de Vavasour was his only wife, and that Clarice de Auberville was in fact the first wife of his son Fulk "IV", who later married Constance de Toeni and drowned at the battle of Lewes. Mabel Fitzwarine who married William de Crevequer and John de Tregoz was Clarice's daughter by Fulk IV rather than Fulk III. Fulk V was, as in the model more commonly accepted, son of Fulk IV by Constance de Toeni.

Ravilious's argument is based on several grounds and can be read in its entirety here. (It should be noted that the proportionally-spaced font used by Google Groups makes a hash of Ravilious's charts; this can be rectified by copying the text of the charts from the browser window and pasting them into any word processor or text editor capable of displaying them in a monospaced font, for instance Courier or Monaco.) A shorter post amplifying on one aspect of Ravilious's argument is here. It would be best to read Ravilious's argument in its entirety, but we note that among his evidence is a contemporary record in the Close Rolls in which, on 22 Nov 1235, Henry III grants to Hubert Hues a market that "was formerly held by Fulk fitz Warin, deceased." Fulk III had been closely involved with Henry and his court in previous years, and other records show clearly that this Fulk was the Fulk to whom the market had previously been granted (in 1219 and again in 1220); it is unlikely that the king or his court was confused about which Fulk they were referring to, or whether he was alive.

But the argument that Ravilious considers strongest is worth quoting in its entirety. Ravilious quotes a 1249 record of the King's Bench given in Janet Meisel's Barons of the Welsh Frontier: The Corbet, Pantulf and Fitz Warin Families, 1066-1272 (University of Nebraska Press, 1980), p. 50:

"Fulk Fitz Warin acknowledges that he gave, conceded and by his charter confirmed to Mabil, his daughter, for homage and her service, his entire manor of Lambourn with all appurtenances, to have and hold for herself and the heirs of her body of Fulk and his heirs freely, quietly, etc., saving religious service, as is described in his charter."

Ravilious comments:

"Fulk 'III' FitzWarin (husband of Maud le Vavasour) was born in 1178 or before; in 1249, if he was still alive and married to Clarice d'Auberville, he would have been somewhere between 70 and 80 years of age. At that time he would have had a son and heir aged about 40 or more (Fulk 'IV'), and would be granting the significant manor of Lambourn, Berks. to his young (say 16-19 year old) daughter -- and Fulk 'IV' 's half sister -- Maud on her marriage to William de Crevequer, something that Meisel found to be incredible. It is far more believeable, and likely, that the 1249 grant was by Fulk 'IV' (aged 40 or more) to his young daughter -- Maud (by HIS wife, Clarice d'Auberville)."

We're unaware of anyone refuting Ravilious's arguments or explaining why the commoner model of this family is more plausible, so despite the fact that most sources still show Clarice as the second wife of Fulk III instead of the first wife of Fulk IV, we're going with Ravilious's model.

Family/Spouse: Fulk IV Fitzwarine. Fulk (son of Fulk III Fitzwarine and Maud le Vavasour) was born about 1208 in of Whittington, Oswestry, Shropshire, England; died on 14 May 1264 in River Ouse, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Alice. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Nichole married Peter de Mauley before 1274. Peter (son of Peter de Mauley and (Unknown second wife of Peter de Mauley)) was born on 22 Jul 1249 in of Mulgrave, Yorkshire, England; died on 6 Sep 1308. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: William de Kerdeston. William died about 1324. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Maud married Philip Burnell before 5 Jun 1283. Philip (son of Hugh Burnell and Sibyl) was born on 1 Aug 1264 in of Holgate, Shropshire, England; died on 26 Jun 1294; was buried in Whitefriars, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also called Richard de Arundel. Earl of Arundel.

From Complete Peerage, 1:240-41:

Richard fitz Alan, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 3 February 1266/7, and was only 5 years old at his father's death. He had seizin of his lands 8 December 1287. According to Glover he was created Earl of Sussex (a) in 1289, when he was knighted and "received the sword of the county of Sussex" from Edward I "ut vocatur Comes;", but it seems more probable that this creation was as Earl of Arundel (b). At all events no more is heard of the former title (Sussex) as connected with this family, but only of the title of Arundel. On 12 February 1290/1 there is a grant to him as Richard Arundel, Earl of Arundel. In October 1292 he was summoned by a writ directed to the Earl of Arundel, and was summoned to Parliament 24 June 1295, by a writ directed Ricardo filio Alani Comiti Arundell, ranking him as junior to all the other Earls. He fought in the Welsh wars 1288, in Gascony 1295-7, and in the Scottish wars 1298-1300, being present at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300. He signed the Barons' letter to the Pope, 12 February 1300/1.

(a) "The Earldom of Sussex must at this period have been a subject of contention between the De Warrens and Fitz Alans, for John de Warren, Earl of Surrey, was receiving, at the very time that this investiture occurred, writs directed to him as Earl of Sussex. John de Warren was perhaps the greatest noble of the time in which he lived, and his power and influence may have operated to induce Fitz Alan to abandon his claim upon the Earldom of Sussex and to adopt that [i.e. the Earldom of Arundel] by which his descendants have ever since been known." (Courthope, p. 29).

(b) It is worthy of remark, in connection with the very doubtful right, either of his father or grandfather, to the Earldom of Arundel, that it was not till 1282, viz. sometime after their death and during this Earl's minority, that Isabel, Countess of Arundel, widow of Hugh (d'Aubigny), died. It would almost appear (possibly owing to the largess of her dower) that the Earldom was not dealt with during her lifetime. A somewhat parallel case occurs, later on, in the same family, when Richard, Earl of Arundel, who, in 1347, had suc. his maternal uncle the Earl of Surrey, did not assume the Earldom of Surrey till the death of Joan, widow of the afsd. Earl, in 1361.

Richard married Alice di Saluzzo in Nov 1282. Alice (daughter of Tomasso di Saluzzo and Aluigia del Vasto) was born in of Saluzzo, Cuneo, Piedmont, Italy; died on 25 Sep 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Fought at Falkirk. Justiciar of Ireland, 30 Apr 1313 - Jan 1315. He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 29 Dec 1299 to 16 Oct 1315.

Thebaud married Maud de Mortimer on 29 Jul 1302 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England. Maud (daughter of Edmund de Mortimer and Margaret de Fiennes) died on 17 Sep 1312 in Alton, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Thebaud married Elizabeth de Clare on 4 Feb 1316 in near Bristol, Gloucestershire, England. Elizabeth (daughter of Gilbert de Clare and Joan of Acre) was born in Nov 1295 in Caerphilly, Glamorgan, Wales; died on 4 Nov 1360. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Summoned to Parliament by writ, 10 Oct 1325 to 15 Nov 1351.

Roger married Elizabeth de Hastings before 1311. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Maud married John de Moels before 1289. John (son of Roger de Moels) was born on 1 Mar 1269 in of Cadbury, Somerset, England; died on 20 May 1310. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: 28 Oct 1282, of Wilton, Herefordshire, England
• Alternate death: 16 Dec 1342

Notes:

3rd Lord Grey of Wilton. He was summoned to Parliament from 10 Oct 1325 to 3 Mar 1341 by writs directed Henrico de Grey.

Douglas Richardson (citation details below) says that he "allegedly" married Anne de la Rochelle (or de la Rokelle), allegedly daughter and heiress of Ralph de la Rochelle by Isabel, daughter of William de Clare.

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 18 Apr 1331

Notes:

"Randolf or Ranulph (sometimes called, seemingly in error, Ralph, son and heir of Robert de Neville and Mary his wife, was born 18 October 1262, and was heir to the Neville estates on the death of his grandfather, in 1282 (having livery under writ of 11 January 1283/4), and to his mother's inheritance, April 1320. He was summoned, 15 July 1287, with horses and arms to a military council at Gloucester (before Edmund, Earl of Cornwall, in the King's absence abroad), and to attend the King at Westminster, June 1294. He was summoned to Parliament from 24 June 1295 to 18 February 1330/1, by writs directed Ranulpho (and Radulpho) de Neville, whereby he is held to have become Lord Neville. For service in Scotland he was summoned 1291 and in later years; for service in Gascony, 1294, 1297 and 1324; and against the rebels under the Earl of Lancaster, 1322. His seal, as Dominus de Raby, was attached to the letter of the Barons to the Pope, February 1300/1. In 1303 he was chief of the delegates summoned by the King to set forth the grievances of the people against the Bishop of Durham. He, or possibly his son Ralph, was commissioner of array in Durham, 1322, in the North Riding of Yorks, 1324, and in Northumberland, 1324 and 1326; in 1325 Keeper of the Peace and one of the specially appointed keepers of the coast in Northumberland, and in 1326 one of the commissioners to impress shipping in the ports of that county. He m., 1stly, Eupheme, daughter of Robert Fitzroger, Lord Fitzroger (see Clavering), and, 2ndly, Margery, dau. of John de Thweng, by whom he had no issue. He died shortly after 18 April 1331." [Complete Peerage IX:497-8.]

Dugdale says of him that "It is reported of this Ranulph, that he little minded Secular business; but, for the most part, betook himself to conversation with the Canons of Merton and Coverham; as also, that he committed Incest with his own Daughter, and that Richard de Kellaw, Bishop of Durham, did for that crime compel him to do publick pennance." According to footnote (b) of the CP account quoted previously, this took place in 1313.

A slightly different version of the incest story is found in the 1875 Preface to Volume III of The Register of Richard de Kellawe, Lord Palatine and Bishop of Durham, 1314-1316, by the volume's editor, Sir Thomas Duffus Hardy. Hardy devotes nearly a page to the conviction and punishment of Ranulph's daughter Anastasia for her adultery with John de Lilleford, dwelling at length on how "proving contumacious, sentence of the Greater Excommunication was pronounced against her." This sentence was subquently commuted by the bishop and replaced with six weeks of elaborate public penance. But "[t]his unhappy woman's troubles seem not to have ended even with this promulgation of her shame and disgrace. On the 9th of November following, a mandate was issued by the bishop for the condemnation of Sur Ranulph de Neville, knight, who had been 'judicially convicted of the crime of incest and adultery with the said Anastasia, his daughter, and wife of Sir Walter de Fauconberg;' to appear in the parish church of Aukland, on the Monday after the feast of St. Andrew the Apostle, there to receive penance for the said crime and for the further offence of contumacy. Sir Ranulph failing to appear, on the 16th of the following month, a mandate was issued, directing him to be excommunicated, in the Galilee at Durham, and all parish churches within the archdeaconry of Durham. We have no further details of this lamentable story. Sir Ranulph de Nevill, of Raby, was a baron of Parliament by writ, succeeded his grandfather Robert, in 1282, and died in 1331. It is only just to add, that Sir Ranulph seems habitually to have been in disfavour with the church; as for other, and apparently, trivial offenses, he had been pronounced excommunicated in the month of August before; but on the Tuesday after Michaelmas day had been absolved. On the 13th of October following, we find him again cited, 'for certain crimes and excesses which he has confessed,' to appear before the bishop or his commissaries, in the Galilee at Durham. In this instance, the nature of his offenses is not named."

There certainly seems to have been no love lost between the Neville family and the Durham ecclesiastical establishment. Dugdale reports that shortly after Ranulph assumed his inheritance in 1282, he had a feud with the prior of Durham over the terms of a customary presentation of a stag to the priory on St. Cuthbert's Day. And we see from his CP entry that in 1303 "Ranulph was chief of the delegates summoned by the King to set forth the grievances of the people against the Bishop of Durham." The incest case happened in 1313. In 1318, Ranulph's eldest son Robert attacked and killed Richard Marmaduke, seneschal to the bishop, on the Old Bridge of Durham. All of which suggests a cycle of offense and reprisal. (Later in the same year, Robert was killed by James, earl of Douglas, in single combat to which Robert had dared the earl.)

It should also be noted that Dugdale's characterization of Ranulph as "little minding Secular business" accords oddly with the eventful life of military and civilian service set forth by Complete Peerage. And yet this characterization appears elsewhere. T. F. Bulmer's 1890 History and Directory of Old Yorkshire states that this Ranulph "was so indolent and careless in the management of his affairs, that his mother settled Middleham and the rest of her manors on her grandson, Robert Neville". One wonders if we aren't simply picking through the tattered leavings of a 700-years-gone propaganda war.

Ranulph married Euphemia de Clavering before 12 Mar 1281. Euphemia (daughter of Robert fitz Roger and Margaret la Zouche) was born after 1265; died about 1320; was buried in Staindrop, Durham, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Lord of Spennithorne. Sometimes called Ranulf de Lascelles, or (according to CP, 7:449) Ralph de Lascelles.

Family/Spouse: Isabel. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Or Maud.

Family/Spouse: John de Tregoz. John (son of Robert de Tregoz and Juliane de Cantelowe) was born about 1250 in of Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England; died before 6 Sep 1300. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Alice married Gerard de Lisle after 1256. Gerard (son of Robert de Lisle and Alice Fitz Gerold) died on 6 Oct 1287 in Wales; was buried in Stowe, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aft 23 May 1348

Notes:

Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 26 Oct 1309 to 22 Jan 1336. Fought for the king in Scotland on various occasions. He was one of several adherents of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, who were pardoned in 1313 for the death of Piers Gavaston.

In 1313 he was absolved by the Archbishop of York for incest with Aline de Furnival, his wife's sister, on condition that he pay 100 marks to the fabric of York Minster. In 1323 the Archbishop issued an order for his purgation, he being charged with adultery with Alice Deyvill. In 1328 Archbishop Melton enjoined as a penance to him, for adultery with Sara de London, that he make a pilgrimage to the shrines of St. William of York, St. Thomas of Hereford, St. Mary of Southwell, St. John of Beverley, and Sir Wilfrid of Ripon, and that he be fustigated seven times before a procession at York Cathedral.

Peter married Eleanor de Furnival before 1299. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk, 1331-32. Knighted with Prince Edward (afterwards Edward III) in 1301. He and his father William were summoned to the Great Council at Westminster in 1324. Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 27 Jan 1332 to 21 Jun 1337.

Roger married Maud Bateman before 1308. Maud (daughter of William Bateman and Margery) died after 8 Dec 1347. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]