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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Margaret died before 1185.

    Notes:

    Also known as Isabel. Peter Stewart (citation details below) says that she is "often asserted without sufficient evidence to have been a Tosny."

    Family/Spouse: Walter de Clifford. Walter (son of Richard fitz Pons and Maud of Gloucester) was born about 1108 in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died in 1190. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Lucy de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England.
    2. 3. Rosamund Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1150; died about 1176.
    3. 4. Walter II de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1150 in Clifford's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died before Mar 1208.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Lucy de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (1.Margaret1) was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: Hugh de Say. Hugh (son of Hugh fitz Osbern and Eustacia de Say) was born in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died before 29 Sep 1190. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Hugh de Say  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died between 1195 and 1196.

  2. 3.  Rosamund Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (1.Margaret1) was born before 1150; died about 1176.

    Notes:

    The "Fair Rosamund" who was mistress to Henry II.


  3. 4.  Walter II de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (1.Margaret1) was born about 1150 in Clifford's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died before Mar 1208.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Bef 1173
    • Alternate death: 1216
    • Alternate death: Abt Jan 1222
    • Alternate death: Bef 22 Jan 1222
    • Alternate death: 22 Jan 1222

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Herefordshire.

    Walter married Agnes de Condet about 1185. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Roger de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Tenbury, Worcestershire, England; died before 28 Aug 1231; was buried in Dore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.
    2. 7. Walter III de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point died before 23 Jan 1221.


Generation: 3

  1. 5.  Hugh de Say Descendancy chart to this point (2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died between 1195 and 1196.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1196
    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Sep 1197

    Notes:

    "He was keeper of Norton Castle, in what is now co. Radnor, and fought under Richard I in Normandy in 1194. In 1195 he was in charge of the castle of Bleddfa in the March, now co. Radnor. In 1196 he and Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore were defeated near Radnor by the Welsh prince Rhys. He married Mabel, daughter of Robert Marmion. He was assessed to the third scutage of the army in Normandy in 1196, and seems to have been living in the early part of 1197, but d. s.p.m., before Michaelmas that year." [Complete Peerage]

    Family/Spouse: Mabel Marmion. Mabel (daughter of Robert Marmion and Maud de Beauchamp) died after 1199. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Margaret de Say  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died before 29 Sep 1242.

  2. 6.  Roger de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Tenbury, Worcestershire, England; died before 28 Aug 1231; was buried in Dore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1189, Clifford's Castle, Herefordshire, England
    • Alternate death: 1232

    Roger married Sibyl de Ewyas before 13 Feb 1217. Sibyl (daughter of Robert de Ewyas and Pernel Scudamore) died in 1236 in Ewyas, Herefordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. Roger de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1221 in of Tenbury, Worcestershire, England; died before 3 Apr 1286; was buried in Dore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

  3. 7.  Walter III de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) died before 23 Jan 1221.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Walter IV de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died before 23 Dec 1263.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Margaret de Say Descendancy chart to this point (5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died before 29 Sep 1242.

    Family/Spouse: William de Stuteville. William (son of Osmund de Stuteville and Isabel de Gressinghall) was born in of Brantingham, Yorkshire, England; died in 1259. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Margery de Stuteville  Descendancy chart to this point

    Margaret married Robert de Mortimer before Jun 1211. Robert (son of Robert de Mortimer) was born in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died before 3 Jul 1219. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Hugh de Mortimer  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1219 in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died on 18 Nov 1274.

  2. 9.  Roger de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1221 in of Tenbury, Worcestershire, England; died before 3 Apr 1286; was buried in Dore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1226
    • Alternate death: 1285, France

    Notes:

    Constable of Hereford Castle 1263; Sheriff of Gloucestershire 1263; Sheriff of Worcestershire and Herefordshire; Justiciar of Wales; Justice of the Forest south of Trent 1265-70.

    Took Simon de Montfort the younger prisoner at the Siege of Nottingham. Taken prisoner at the Battle of Lewes, 14 May 1264. Fought for the king at the Battle of Evesham, 4 Aug 1265. In 1270, accompanied Prince Edward on crusade to the Holy Land.

    Roger married Maud before 1242. Maud died before 1273. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Roger de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1242 in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died on 6 Nov 1282 in Moel-y-Don, Wales; was buried in Llanfaes Friary, Beaumaris, Gwynedd, Wales.

  3. 10.  Walter IV de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died before 23 Dec 1263.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Herefordshire 1215-16. Constable of Carmarthen and Cardigan castles in 1228. Fought in Ireland, 1210, and in Wales, 1257, 1258, 1260, and 1263.

    Called Walter III de Clifford by many of the sources cited here, but Peter Stewart (citation details below) says that this represents a conflation of III and IV, and that it was IV whose second wife was Margred ferch Llywellyn of Wales who was the mother of his heiress.

    Walter married Margaret ferch Llywelyn before 2 Nov 1234. Margaret (daughter of Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth and (One of the several mistresses of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth)) died in 1265. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Maud de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died between 1282 and 1285.


Generation: 5

  1. 11.  Margery de Stuteville Descendancy chart to this point (8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1)

    Family/Spouse: Richard Foliot. Richard was born in of Gressenhall, Norfolk, England; died in 1299. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Jordan Foliot  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1249 in of Gressenhall, Norfolk, England.

  2. 12.  Hugh de Mortimer Descendancy chart to this point (8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1219 in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died on 18 Nov 1274.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 28 Nov 1274

    Notes:

    "In 1267 his men and those of Roger de Mortimer adhered (redidderunt se) to Llewelyn. He had protection in February 1262/3 on going to the Welsh wars; and in the autumn of 1264 he surrendered Richard's Castle to Montfort. Like the other Lords Marchers, he appears to have taken the King's side in 1264 and 1265, and was consequently rewarded. On 9 August 1265, just after the battle of Evesham, he received custody of the manor and forest of Feckenham, co. Worcester; in November 1266 a charter for a market and fair at Burford and free warren at Wichbold; and at about the same time a charter to make Burford a free borough. In 1272 respite of pleas was allowed him in co. Hereford while he came to the King's Parliament at Westminster." [Complete Peerage]

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Robert de Mortimer  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1252 in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died on 7 Apr 1287; was buried on 8 Apr 1287 in Worcester Cathedral, Worcestershire, England.

  3. 13.  Roger de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1242 in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died on 6 Nov 1282 in Moel-y-Don, Wales; was buried in Llanfaes Friary, Beaumaris, Gwynedd, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1243
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1248, Herefordshire, England

    Notes:

    Justice of the Forest South of Trent 1270-81. Justiciar of Wales.

    Drowned while crossing a bridge of boats near the Menai Straits in Wales.

    Roger married Isabel de Vipont after 28 Jun 1265. Isabel (daughter of Robert de Vipont and Isabel fitz John) was born about 1248 in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died in 1291; was buried in Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Robert de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1 Apr 1274; died on 24 Jun 1314 in Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland; was buried in Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.

  4. 14.  Maud de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died between 1282 and 1285.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1 Dec 1281
    • Alternate death: 1282

    Notes:

    "He [John Giffard] married, 1stly, Maud, widow of Sir William Lungespee, of Amesbury, Aldbourne, and Trowbridge, Wilts, Canford, Dorset, Bicester, Oxon; Brattleby, co., Lincoln, &c. (who died between 23 December 1256 and 3 January 1256/7), and daughter and heir of Sir Walter de Clifford, of Clifford co. Hereford, Cortham, Salop, &c., by Margaret, daughter of Llewelyn ab Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales. She, who was living 1 December 1281, died s.p.m., not long afterwards." [Complete Peerage V:639-44]

    [footnote in CP to the above:] Maud Lungespee notified the King that John Giffard had abducted her from her manor of Canford, Dorset, and taken her against her will to his castle of Brimpsfield, and there detained her. John appeared before the King, and professed himself ready to prove that he did not abduct her against her will, and offered a fine of 300 marks for the marriage already contracted, as it was said, between them, provided she made no further complaint against him. On 10 March 1270/1 the King ordained that if she were not content, the said fine should be void,and John should stand his trial at a month from Easter. And as she was too unwell to appear before the King, commissioners were sent to inquire into the truth of the matter, and to certify the King thereof. John and Maud, and her Ist husband, William Lungespee, were all descended from Richard fitz Ponce. Why John Giffard should have referred to himself as being of the race of Le Lungespee as in the proof of age mentioned above he is said to have done--is not explicable; unless, indeed, the sobriquet was derived from the family of Clifford.

    Family/Spouse: William Longespée. William (son of William Longespée and Idoine de Camville) was born in of Amesbury, Wiltshire, England; died between 23 Dec 1256 and 3 Jan 1257. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Margaret de Longespée  Descendancy chart to this point died in 1310.

    Maud married John Giffard before 10 Mar 1271. John (son of Elias IV Giffard and Alice Mautravers) was born about 1232 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England; died on 28 May 1299; was buried on 11 Jun 1299 in Malmesbury Abbey, Wiltshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 19. Katherine Giffard  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1272; died after 1321.
    2. 20. Eleanor Giffard  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1275 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England; died before 23 Jan 1324.


Generation: 6

  1. 15.  Jordan Foliot Descendancy chart to this point (11.Margery5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1249 in of Gressenhall, Norfolk, England.

    Family/Spouse: Margery de Newmarch. Margery (daughter of Adam de Newmarch) died about 1329; was buried in Wendling Abbey, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Joan Foliot  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 22. Richard Foliot  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 25 Dec 1283 in of Gressenhall, Norfolk, England; died before 23 Jul 1317 in Scotland.

  2. 16.  Robert de Mortimer Descendancy chart to this point (12.Hugh5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1252 in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died on 7 Apr 1287; was buried on 8 Apr 1287 in Worcester Cathedral, Worcestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1252, of Norton, Northamptonshire, England

    Robert married Joyce la Zouche before 1273. Joyce (daughter of William la Zouche and Maud de Howbridge) died before 13 Mar 1290; was buried on 13 Mar 1290. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. William la Zouche  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England; died on 28 Feb 1337; was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England.
    2. 24. Hugh de Mortimer  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1275 in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died before 5 Aug 1304.

  3. 17.  Robert de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1 Apr 1274; died on 24 Jun 1314 in Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland; was buried in Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 14 Apr 1274
    • Alternate birth: Abt 5 Apr 1276, of Appleby, Westmorland, England

    Notes:

    Served in Edward I's wars in Scotland. On the death of his mother, he succeeded to the hereditary shrievalty of Westmorland. Justice in Eyre North of Trent 1297-1307. Governor of Nottingham Castle, July 1298. Summoned to Parliament 29 Dec 1299 to 26 Nov 1313 by writs directed Roberto de Clifford. Signed the 1301 Barons' Letter to Pope Boniface VIII as Robertus de Clifford Castellanus de Appelby. By Edward II he was made, for a few months in 1308, Marshal of England; Justice South of Trent 1307-8; Warden of the Scottish Marches 1308. Pardoned 16 Oct 1313 for participation in the death of Piers Gaveston. Killed at the Battle of Bannockburn.

    Robert married Maud de Clare on 13 Nov 1295. Maud (daughter of Thomas de Clare and Juliane fitz Maurice) died on 1 Feb 1325. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. Idoine de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died on 24 Aug 1365; was buried in Beverley Minster, Yorkshire, England.
    2. 26. Margaret de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point died on 8 Aug 1382.
    3. 27. Robert de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 Nov 1305 in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died on 20 May 1344; was buried in Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.

  4. 18.  Margaret de Longespée Descendancy chart to this point (14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) died in 1310.

    Margaret married Henry Lacy about 25 Dec 1256. Henry (son of Edmund de Lacy and Alice di Saluzzo) was born about 1250; died on 5 Feb 1310 in London, England; was buried in St. Paul's, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. Alice Lacy  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 Dec 1281; died on 1 Oct 1348.

  5. 19.  Katherine Giffard Descendancy chart to this point (14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1272; died after 1321.

    Family/Spouse: Nicholas de Audley. Nicholas (son of James de Aldithley and Ela Longespée) was born before 1258 in of Heleigh in Audley, Staffordshire, England; died before 28 Aug 1299. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 29. Nicholas de Audley  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Nov 1289 in of Heleigh in Audley, Staffordshire, England; died on 28 Nov 1316.

  6. 20.  Eleanor Giffard Descendancy chart to this point (14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1275 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England; died before 23 Jan 1324.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1325

    Notes:

    Eleanor (predeceased her husband), daughter of John Giffard, of Brimsfield, Glos. 1st Lord (Baron) Giffard. [Burke's Peerage]

    Eleanor married Fulke le Strange before 1301. Fulke (son of Robert le Strange and Eleanor Blancminster) was born about 1267 in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died before 23 Jan 1324. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 30. Elizabeth le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died after 1375.
    2. 31. Maud le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.
    3. 32. John le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1306 in Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 21 Jul 1349.


Generation: 7

  1. 21.  Joan Foliot Descendancy chart to this point (15.Jordan6, 11.Margery5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1)

    Joan married Alphonse de Vere before 1301. Alphonse (son of Robert de Vere and Alice de Sanford) was born before 1262 in of Aston Sanford, Buckinghamshire, England; died before 20 Dec 1328; was buried in St. Albans Abbey, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 33. John de Vere  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 12 Mar 1312; died on 23 Jan 1360; was buried in Earl's Colne Priory, Halstead, Great Bromley, Essex, England.

  2. 22.  Richard Foliot Descendancy chart to this point (15.Jordan6, 11.Margery5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 25 Dec 1283 in of Gressenhall, Norfolk, England; died before 23 Jul 1317 in Scotland.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1284
    • Alternate death: Bef 1316

    Richard married Joan de Brewes after 16 Sep 1310. Joan (daughter of William de Brewes and Agnes) died before 23 Jun 1324. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. Margery Foliot  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1312 and 1313; died on 8 Aug 1349; was buried in Friars Minor, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England.

  3. 23.  William la Zouche Descendancy chart to this point (16.Robert6, 12.Hugh5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England; died on 28 Feb 1337; was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England.

    Notes:

    Formerly William de Mortimer. Also called William la Zouche Mortimer.

    Justice in Eyre for forest pleas in Essex; Joint Keeper of Caerphilly Castle; Keeper of Glamorgan and Morganno; Chanberlain of Cardiff; Keeper of the Tower of London; Justice of the Forest South of Trent.

    Summoned to Parliament by writ from 26 Dec 1323 to 14 Jan 1337.

    William married Alice de Tony after 26 Oct 1316. Alice (daughter of Ralph VII de Tony and Mary) was born about 1283; died on 1 Jan 1325. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 35. Joyce la Zouche  Descendancy chart to this point died after 4 May 1372.

    William married Eleanor de Clare before 26 Jan 1329. Eleanor (daughter of Gilbert de Clare and Joan of Acre) was born in Oct 1292 in Caerphilly, Glamorgan, Wales; died on 30 Jun 1337. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 24.  Hugh de Mortimer Descendancy chart to this point (16.Robert6, 12.Hugh5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1275 in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died before 5 Aug 1304.

    Notes:

    "A poet did mention Hugh for his part in the seige of Caerlaverock in 1300: 'Hugh Mortimer, who well-knew how to make himself beloved.' Whether the poet was being ironic, or Hugh simply never used the talent with his wife, Matilda, is not known, but she killed him by poison on 5 August 1305. Queen Margaret seems to have thought the action was not entirely reprehensible and interceded to obtain a pardon for her." [The Whilton Dispute, 1264-1380: A Social-Legal Study of Dispute Settlement in Medieval England by Robert C. Palmer (Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 1984)]

    Hugh married Maud in 1290. Maud died before 15 Feb 1308. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 36. Joan de Mortimer  Descendancy chart to this point was christened on 24 Nov 1291 in Caerphilly Castle, Glamorgan, Wales.
    2. 37. Margaret de Mortimer  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 14 Sep 1295; died before 25 Dec 1345.

  5. 25.  Idoine de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died on 24 Aug 1365; was buried in Beverley Minster, Yorkshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1303, Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England

    Notes:

    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:11:50 -0800 (PST)
    Subject: Re: Looking for primary source documents on Idonia [Imania] de Clifford
    Reply-To: Douglas Richardson

    Dear Steve ~

    The correct name of Henry de Percy's wife is Idoine de Clifford. "Idonia" or "Idonea" are the Latin forms of her name and should be avoided.

    The parentage of Idoine de Clifford is hardly elusive as you imagine. There are no less than five separate visitations/medieval sources which name Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, as a Clifford, or the daughter of Lord Clifford:

    1. Archaeologia Aeliana 3 (1844): 40 (Chronicles of Alnwick Abbey: "Iste Henricus disponsavit idoneam filiam Domini de Clyfford et genuit ex ea Anno Domini 1320 Henricum quartum et tertium Dominum de Alnewyk et alios plures filios et filias inter quos erat Thomas qui postea fuit Episcopus Norwicens ...").

    2. Atkinson, Cartularium Abbathiæ de Whiteby 2 (Surtees Soc. 72) (1881): 690-696 (Percy ped.: "The fourth Henry Lord Percy ... gat on Idonea Clyfford Henry, William, Richard, Maude, Alianour Fitzwater, Roger, and Margarett that was maried to the Erle of Angus Sonne and his heire.").

    3. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 241-244 (Percy ped.: "Henry 4 Lord Percy. = Ida doughter of the Lord Clyfford.").

    This item is available online at the following weblink:

    books.google.com/books?id=pjMEAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA242

    4. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 3 (Surtees Soc. 144) (1930): 18-20 (Percy ped.: "Henricus Percy = Idonea Clifforde").

    This item is available online at the following weblink:

    www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees144text.pdf

    5. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 4 (Surtees Soc. 146) (1932): 17-24 (Lassels ped.: "Idonæ [Clifford] mar: to Henry lord Percy").

    This item is available online at the following weblink:

    www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees146text.pdf

    Given that we know that Sir Henry Percy was born in 1300 or 1301, and given that Henry's son and heir, also named Henry, was born about
    1322-5, the birth of Idoine de Clifford would necessarily have to fall about 1300-1310. Given the chronology, Idoine de Clifford can be placed as a daughter of Robert de Clifford (died 1314), 1st Lord Clifford, and his wife, Maud de Clare, which Robert and Maud were married in 1295. Idoine de Clifford was surely named for her father's maternal aunt, Idoine de Vipont (died 1333), wife of Roger de Leybourne, Knt., and John de Cromwell, Knt., Lord Cromwell.

    For interesting references to Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, see the following weblinks:

    books.google.com/books?id=1MUwhOPhfKcC&pg=PA116&dq=Idoine+Percy

    books.google.com/books?lr=&id=8AMhAAAAMAAJ&dq=Idoine+Percy&q=Idoine&pgis=1#search_anchor

    books.google.com/books?id=RzUdAAAAIAAJ&q=Idoine+Percy&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=&pgis=1

    books.google.com/books?id=cu8i2yausLcC&pg=PA124&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=

    The tomb at Beverley Minster, Yorkshire which is now attributed to Idoine de Clifford, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, bears shields with various coats of arms, among them Clifford.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:15:21 AM UTC-7, The Hoorn wrote:

    So far, I have been unsuccessful in locating any primary or contemporaneous records, documenting the parentage of Idonia [Imania] de Clifford, as the daughter of Lord Robert Clifford (killed in battle Bannockburn 24 Jun 1314) and Matilda de Clare. Idonia was also the wife of Sir Henry Percy (1301-1352).

    I would sincerely welcome any assistance.

    Thanks!

    Idoine married Henry de Percy about 1318. Henry (son of Henry de Percy and Eleanor de Arundel) was born in 1299; died on 26 Feb 1352 in Warkworth, Northumberland, England; was buried in Alnwick, Northumberland, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 38. Isabel Percy  Descendancy chart to this point died between 13 Sep 1349 and 25 May 1368.
    2. 39. Eleanor de Percy  Descendancy chart to this point died before 18 Oct 1361; was buried in Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, Essex, England.
    3. 40. Henry de Percy  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1322 and 1325 in of Alnwick, Northumberland, England; died about 18 May 1368 in Warkworth, Northumberland, England; was buried in Alnwick Abbey, Northumberland, England.
    4. 41. Maud Percy  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1345 in Alnwick, Northumberland, England; died before 18 Feb 1379; was buried in Durham Cathedral, Durham, Durham, England.

  6. 26.  Margaret de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) died on 8 Aug 1382.

    Margaret married Peter de Mauley before 16 Apr 1322. Peter (son of Peter de Mauley and Eleanor de Furnival) was born about 1300 in of Mulgrave, Yorkshire, England; died on 18 Jan 1355. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 42. Peter de Mauley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1331 in of Mulgrave, Yorkshire, England; died on 19 Mar 1383.

  7. 27.  Robert de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born on 5 Nov 1305 in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died on 20 May 1344; was buried in Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.

    Notes:

    Hereditary sheriff of Westmorland.

    Robert married Isabel de Berkeley in Jun 1328 in Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England. Isabel (daughter of Maurice de Berkeley and Eve la Zouche) died on 25 Jul 1362. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 43. Roger de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 10 Jul 1333 in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died on 13 Jul 1389.

  8. 28.  Alice Lacy Descendancy chart to this point (18.Margaret6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born on 25 Dec 1281; died on 1 Oct 1348.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas of Lancaster. Thomas (son of Edmund "Crouchback" and Blanche of Artois) died on 22 Mar 1322 in Pontefract, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  9. 29.  Nicholas de Audley Descendancy chart to this point (19.Katherine6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born on 11 Nov 1289 in of Heleigh in Audley, Staffordshire, England; died on 28 Nov 1316.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 11 Nov 1292, of Heleigh in Audley, Staffordshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 9 Dec 1316

    Notes:

    He was summoned to Parliament from 8 Jan 1313 to 25 Aug 1318 (by which latter date he had already died) by writs directed Nicholao de Audele.

    Nicholas married Joan Martin before 6 Jun 1313. Joan (daughter of William Martin and Eleanor fitz Reynold) died between Feb 1320 and 1 Aug 1322. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 44. Alice de Audley  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1357.
    2. 45. James de Audley  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Jan 1314 in Kneesall, Nottinghamshire, England; died on 1 Apr 1386 in Heleigh in Audley, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Hulton Abbey, Staffordshire, England.

  10. 30.  Elizabeth le Strange Descendancy chart to this point (20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died after 1375.

    Elizabeth married Robert Corbet before Mar 1323. Robert (son of Thomas Corbet and Amice) was born on 25 Dec 1304 in of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England; died on 3 Dec 1375. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 46. Roger Corbet  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Morton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died about 1394.
    2. 47. Thomas Corbet  Descendancy chart to this point

  11. 31.  Maud le Strange Descendancy chart to this point (20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell has the daughter of Fulke le Strange and Eleanor Giffard marrying "Bryan de Cornwall of Kynlet," with no mention of Griffin Warren. Elsewhere (p. 267), he has Gruffith Warren marrying "Matilda le Strange, daughter of a Lord Strange of Blackmere."

    Family/Spouse: Griffin Warren. Griffin (son of John Warren and Helen Chorleton) was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died in 1356. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 48. Griffin Warren  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.
    2. 49. Margaret Warren  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

  12. 32.  John le Strange Descendancy chart to this point (20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1306 in Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 21 Jul 1349.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 25 Jan 1306, of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

    Notes:

    Also spelled Lestraunge. Summoned to Parliament by writ 23 Oct 1330 to 20 Apr 1344.

    "John Lestrange, 2nd Lord (Baron) Strange (of Blackmere), JP (Salop 1332); fought at Crécy 1346; married as her 1st husband Ankaret (married 2nd Sir Thomas de Ferrers and died 8 Oct 1361), daughter of William Boteler, of Wem, Salop, and died 21 July 1349." [Burke's Peerage]

    John married Ankaret le Boteler before 20 May 1327. Ankaret (daughter of William le Boteler and Ela de Herdeburgh) died on 8 Oct 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 50. Eleanor le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point died on 20 Apr 1396.
    2. 51. John le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 19 Apr 1332 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 12 May 1361.


Generation: 8

  1. 33.  John de Vere Descendancy chart to this point (21.Joan7, 15.Jordan6, 11.Margery5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 12 Mar 1312; died on 23 Jan 1360; was buried in Earl's Colne Priory, Halstead, Great Bromley, Essex, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 24 Jan 1360

    Notes:

    7th Earl of Oxford. Hereditary Master Chamberlain of England. Died at the siege of Rheims, 23 (or 24) Jan 1360.

    "He took an active part in the wars of Edward III serving in Scotland, Flanders, and Brittany. He served in the Crécy campaign where he had a following of 160 men, including 3 bannerets and 27 knights and at the siege of Calais in 1346, and was joint commander of the 1st division at the battle of Poitiers, 19 Sept 1356, where his skillful handling of the archers contributed to the victory." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    John married Maud de Badlesmere before 27 Mar 1336. Maud (daughter of Bartholomew de Badlesmere and Margaret de Clare) was born about 1308; died on 24 May 1366; was buried in Earl's Colne Priory, Halstead, Great Bromley, Essex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 52. Margaret de Vere  Descendancy chart to this point died on 15 Jun 1398; was buried in Grey Friars, Smithfield, London, England.
    2. 53. Aubrey Vere  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1338 and 1340; died on 23 Apr 1400.

  2. 34.  Margery Foliot Descendancy chart to this point (22.Richard7, 15.Jordan6, 11.Margery5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born between 1312 and 1313; died on 8 Aug 1349; was buried in Friars Minor, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1313

    Margery married Hugh de Hastings before 18 May 1330. Hugh (son of John de Hastings and Isabel le Despenser) was born about 1310 in of Sutton Scotney, Hampshire, England; died on 30 Jul 1347; was buried in Elsing, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 54. Hugh de Hastings  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1335 in of Elsing, Norfolk, England; died in Sep 1369 in Kalkwell Hill, near Calais, France; was buried in Friars Preachers, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England.
    2. 55. Maud de Hastings  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1335; died on 10 Apr 1405.

  3. 35.  Joyce la Zouche Descendancy chart to this point (23.William7, 16.Robert6, 12.Hugh5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) died after 4 May 1372.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1375

    Notes:

    Also called Joyce de Mortimer.

    Joyce married John Botetourte before 31 May 1347. John (son of Thomas Botetourt and Joan de Somery) was born between 1317 and 1318 in of Weoley, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Apr 1386; was buried in Halesowen Abbey, Worcestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 56. Katherine Botetourte  Descendancy chart to this point died on 22 Jan 1388.
    2. 57. Joyce Botetourte  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1348; died on 12 Aug 1420.

  4. 36.  Joan de Mortimer Descendancy chart to this point (24.Hugh7, 16.Robert6, 12.Hugh5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was christened on 24 Nov 1291 in Caerphilly Castle, Glamorgan, Wales.

    Family/Spouse: Richard Talbot. Richard (son of Richard Talbot and Sarah de Beauchamp) died before 10 Oct 1328; was buried in Wormsley Priory, Herefordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 58. John Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 29 Sep 1317 in of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died on 20 Sep 1355.

  5. 37.  Margaret de Mortimer Descendancy chart to this point (24.Hugh7, 16.Robert6, 12.Hugh5, 8.Margaret4, 5.Hugh3, 2.Lucy2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 14 Sep 1295; died before 25 Dec 1345.

    Margaret married Geoffrey de Cornwall before 1308. Geoffrey (son of Richard de Cornwall and Joan) was born in of Burford, Shropshire, England; died before 1 Jun 1335. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 59. Richard de Cornwall  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Burford, Shropshire, England; died on 6 Oct 1343.

  6. 38.  Isabel Percy Descendancy chart to this point (25.Idoine7, 17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) died between 13 Sep 1349 and 25 May 1368.

    Isabel married William de Aton before Jan 1327. William (son of Gilbert de Aton) was born about 1299; died on 10 Feb 1388; was buried in Old Malton Priory, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 60. Elizabeth de Aton  Descendancy chart to this point died between 25 Apr 1402 and 1 May 1402.
    2. 61. Katherine Aton  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 62. Anastasia de Aton  Descendancy chart to this point died after 22 Jul 1389.

  7. 39.  Eleanor de Percy Descendancy chart to this point (25.Idoine7, 17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) died before 18 Oct 1361; was buried in Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, Essex, England.

    Family/Spouse: John Fitz Walter. John (son of Robert Fitz Walter and Joan de Multon) was born about 1315; died on 18 Oct 1361; was buried in Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, Essex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 63. Alice Fitz Walter  Descendancy chart to this point died on 29 Apr 1401.

  8. 40.  Henry de Percy Descendancy chart to this point (25.Idoine7, 17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born between 1322 and 1325 in of Alnwick, Northumberland, England; died about 18 May 1368 in Warkworth, Northumberland, England; was buried in Alnwick Abbey, Northumberland, England.

    Notes:

    Keeper of Berwick Castle, joint Warden of the Marches, Sheriff of Roxburghshire. Fought at Crécy and was present at the siege of Calais.

    Henry married Mary of Lancaster before 5 Sep 1334. Mary (daughter of Henry of Lancaster and Maud de Chaworth) was born about 1320; died on 1 Sep 1362; was buried in Alnwick Abbey, Northumberland, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 64. Henry Percy  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 10 Nov 1341 in of Warkworth, Northumberland, England; died on 19 Feb 1408 in Bramham Moor, near Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England.

  9. 41.  Maud Percy Descendancy chart to this point (25.Idoine7, 17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1345 in Alnwick, Northumberland, England; died before 18 Feb 1379; was buried in Durham Cathedral, Durham, Durham, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 18 Feb 1379

    Notes:

    Richardson's RA has them married "before 1362." The Ancestry of Charles II says their marriage contract was dated July 1344.

    Maud married John de Neville before 1362. John (son of Ralph de Neville and Alice de Audley) was born about 1330; died on 17 Oct 1388 in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England; was buried in Durham Cathedral, Durham, Durham, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 65. Eleanor Neville  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1441.
    2. 66. Thomas Neville  Descendancy chart to this point died on 14 Mar 1407; was buried in Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England.
    3. 67. Ralph de Neville  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1367; died on 21 Oct 1425 in Raby Castle, Durham, England; was buried in Collegiate Church of St. Mary, Staindrop, Durham, England.

  10. 42.  Peter de Mauley Descendancy chart to this point (26.Margaret7, 17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 1331 in of Mulgrave, Yorkshire, England; died on 19 Mar 1383.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 20 Mar 1383

    Notes:

    Summoned to Parliament by writs, 20 Sep 1355. Fought at Poitiers, 19 Sep 1356.

    Peter married Elizabeth de Meinell before 18 Nov 1356. Elizabeth (daughter of Nicholas de Meinell and Alice de Ros) was born on 15 Oct 1331 in Whorlton, Yorkshire, England; died on 9 Jul 1368. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 68. Peter de Mauley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England; died between Jan 1378 and 20 Mar 1383.

  11. 43.  Roger de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (27.Robert7, 17.Robert6, 13.Roger5, 9.Roger4, 6.Roger3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born on 10 Jul 1333 in of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died on 13 Jul 1389.

    Notes:

    Hereditary sheriff of Westmorland and of Cumberland. Warden of the East and West Marches of Scotland. Governor of Carlisle Castle.

    Summoned to Parliament from 15 Dec 1356 and 18 Jul 1388. In 1373 he accompanied John of Gaunt to France. He testified in the Scrope-Grosvenor case in 1386.

    Roger married Maud de Beauchamp before 20 Mar 1357. Maud (daughter of Thomas de Beauchamp and Katherine de Mortimer) died in 1403. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 69. Margaret Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 70. Philippe Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point died after 4 Jul 1405.
    3. 71. Katherine Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point died on 23 Apr 1413; was buried in Church of the Dominican Friars, York, Yorkshire, England.
    4. 72. Thomas de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1363; died on 18 Aug 1391.

  12. 44.  Alice de Audley Descendancy chart to this point (29.Nicholas7, 19.Katherine6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) died after 1357.

    Alice married Hugh de Meinell between 31 Jul 1337 and 1340. Hugh (son of Hugh de Meinell and Joan de la Warde) was born about 1302 in of Langley Meynell, Derbyshire, England; died on 2 May 1363. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 73. Isabel de Meinell  Descendancy chart to this point died on 25 Apr 1393; was buried in Colmworth, Bedfordshire, England.

  13. 45.  James de Audley Descendancy chart to this point (29.Nicholas7, 19.Katherine6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born on 7 Jan 1314 in Kneesall, Nottinghamshire, England; died on 1 Apr 1386 in Heleigh in Audley, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Hulton Abbey, Staffordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Summoned to Parliament by writs from 25 Jan 1330 to 8 Aug 1386.

    Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls (citation details below), page 49, has a pedigree for James De Audeleye, from a suit in 17 Ed. 3 (25 Jan 1343 - 24 Jan 1344):



    It will be seen that the top pedigree omits a generation; in actuality it was this:

    Henry Tracy
    Eve de Tracy = Guy de Bryan
    Maud de Bryan = Nicholas Fitz Martin
    William Martin = Eleanor fitz Reynold
    Joan Martin = Nicholas de Audley
    James de Audley

    James married Joan de Mortimer before 13 Jun 1330. Joan (daughter of Roger de Mortimer and Joan de Geneville) died after 1337. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 74. Joan de Audley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1332.

  14. 46.  Roger Corbet Descendancy chart to this point (30.Elizabeth7, 20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Morton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died about 1394.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Aft 1340, of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 22 Sep 1395
    • Alternate death: 1396

    Family/Spouse: Margaret de Erdington. Margaret (daughter of Giles de Erdington and Elizabeth de Tolethorpe) was born in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England; died in Jun 1395. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 75. Robert Corbet  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1383 in of Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died on 12 Aug 1420.

  15. 47.  Thomas Corbet Descendancy chart to this point (30.Elizabeth7, 20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1)

    Notes:

    Eldest son of Robert Corbet; died well before his father. The IPM of Robert Corbet, ordered 11 Dec 1375 and taken 4 Jan 1376, shows that Robert and his wife went to some lengths to ensure that their granddaughter Elizabeth, wife of John de Ipstones, would inherit as little as possible.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 76. Elizabeth Corbet  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1357; died after 1394.

  16. 48.  Griffin Warren Descendancy chart to this point (31.Maud7, 20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Possibly, arguably probably, a descendant of the Warenne family also known as Whitchurch. Todd A. Farmerie discusses the patchiness of the evidence here. We give the commonly-believed ancestry of this Griffin Warren, but caveat emptor, and do please read Farmerie's post. Further input would be welcome.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Corbet. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 77. John Warren  Descendancy chart to this point was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 4 Feb 1413.

  17. 49.  Margaret Warren Descendancy chart to this point (31.Maud7, 20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born in of Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    "[S]ister of Griffith Warren, of Ightfield, in Salop." [A genealogical and heraldic history of the commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, citation details below.]

    Based on the above and on chronological grounds, we place her as a daughter of Griffin/Griffith Warren and Maud le Strange, and thus sister to Griffin/Griffith the younger.

    Family/Spouse: Griffith Hull. Griffith (son of William Hull) was born in of Hull, Shropshire, England; died in 1434. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 78. Humphrey Hill  Descendancy chart to this point was born after 1399 in of Buntingsdale, Market Drayton, Shropshire, England.

  18. 50.  Eleanor le Strange Descendancy chart to this point (32.John7, 20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) died on 20 Apr 1396.

    Eleanor married Reynold de Grey before 31 Oct 1353. Reynold (son of Roger de Grey and Elizabeth de Hastings) was born about 1319 in of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 28 Jul 1388. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 79. Ida Grey  Descendancy chart to this point died on 1 Jun 1426; was buried in Cockayne Hatley, Bedfordshire, England.
    2. 80. Reynold Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1362 in of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 30 Sep 1440.

  19. 51.  John le Strange Descendancy chart to this point (32.John7, 20.Eleanor6, 14.Maud5, 10.Walter4, 7.Walter3, 4.Walter2, 1.Margaret1) was born about 19 Apr 1332 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 12 May 1361.

    John married Mary de Arundel before 1354. Mary (daughter of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne) died on 29 Aug 1396. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 81. Ankaret le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1361; died on 1 Jun 1413.


 

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